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July 2017

World War 2 seems to have resulted in a rebuilding of all the national mythologies in the West.  The figures in the war aren’t viewed historically, but as characters in a grand moral fable about who we are, who our enemies are, and why we’re better than them.

Jul 16, 2017 18 notes
#politics
It's interesting being from Minnesota and going to the University of Minnesota, since all over the state, on the first Wednesday of the month at 1pm, they test the tornado sirens. Which, having grown up with them my whole life, I just glance at the time/think of the day and shrug. There are many students at said University without said experience/knowledge. And while at first it was amusing to see who had experience with it and who didn't, I then realized how freaky that must be for some.

what exactly is one supposed to do when a tornado bears down on the town

Jul 16, 2017 14 notes

argumate:

the GPS trackers for autistic kids seems like a competing access needs problem, or at least there are regular stories about autistic kids going walkabout in Melbourne and being found days later shivering in bushland kilometres away; presumably parents are worried about that happening to their kids.

Jul 16, 2017 130 notes
#strayan problems

discoursedrome:

marcusseldon:

I think one big economic problem millennials face that is horribly under-discussed is that businesses just don’t really seem interesting in training people anymore, or at least not unless the person is in an unpaid/underpaid internship.

Like, in the ‘80s, my mom got a job as a programmer and was trained by the company. Prior to that, she had no experience with computers and hadn’t gone to college, and they trained her to program (granted, she wasn’t in a high level programming position, but even low-level programming jobs pay pretty well). Companies used to really invest in workers, and they don’t now. That’s unimaginable today. Companies now seem to expect you to get a four-year college degree that is directly applicable to the job, and at least a year or two of relevant internship experience, plus some self-learning on the side, to even hire for entry-level office work.

Of course, this new system makes younger workers much less competitive compared to older workers, and it means that any disadvantages you have (you have a mental illness, your parents aren’t supportive/wealthy enough to help you through an internship, you didn’t get a 4-year degree or got one at a lower-level institution,, etc.) multiply in how much they hinder one’s attempts to enter a given industry, because you have to do so much to even get your foot in the door.

Yeah, this is one of a large variety of ways in which the private sector, running out of ways to become more competitive by generating value, has increasingly depended on pushing costs onto others. Even fiscal conservatives tend to be fans of “skills training” subsidies, so it’s easy for companies to just completely give up on training and entry-level recruitment and then argue that the government needs to save them from the skills gap, and universities need to better train students in whatever they need right now. Then a huge amount of money gets wasted training people for things that are useless by the time those people enter the workforce, but were in-demand three years earlier.

In general I think it’s really important to understand this pattern of cost-smuggling, because it’s probably the single most fundamental tactic used by modern firms to stay competitive. You also see it in, for instance, the tendency to outsource resume screening to third-party service providers, who boast about their proprietary algorithm but actually just discard any resume without appropriate keyword hits and the right degrees. Or just-in-time scheduling, or the tendency to offsource all capital costs onto employees/contractors except the ones absolutely necessary to maintain leverage, or firing people when they’re costing you money and then rehiring them when you need them again. There are simply far, far more opportunities to save money by tricking or forcing other people into paying than there are by actually doing things better, and in a competitive marketplace, you can’t afford to hold out for the latter type.

What’s funny is that it’s not even clear that these strategies do improve long-term profitability. The issue is that long-term profitability doesn’t matter; companies have to optimize for short-term profitability, and things that make them money over a period of many years in ways that aren’t obvious to shareholders or investors aren’t worth that much in the rat race.

We may see an increase in relative performance by employee-owned and privately-owned companies for this reason.

Jul 16, 2017 62 notes
#the invisible fist

argumate:

debthaver:

un-neofriended:

Someone please quickly explain baby clothing sizes to me

baby clothes are smaller than most adult or even childrens clothes. i hope this helps

baby clothes, for sale, really small

DID YOU KNOW?: The average adult baby can weigh over 500 kilograms!

Jul 16, 2017 229,556 notes
#shtpost

argumate:

theinflammablemammal:

argumate:

Leave the planet more or less as we found it.

take only the entirety of the mineral reserves, leave only footprints

and the occasional genital symbolism carved into the mountains

Moon is fair game.

The original American flag planted there is too small.

We’re gonna need Moon Excavators and about ten hundred thousand tons of red, white, and blue gravel.

Jul 16, 2017 237 notes
#shtpost #augmented reality break

see-nn-girls sadly not blog of neural-network-generated pornography, merely ordinary bot

Jul 16, 2017 3 notes
Jul 16, 2017 24 notes
#shtpost
Depressing thought: I was born in the brief sixteen-year period between a majority of Americans accepting interracial marriage and forgetting what marriage is.
Jul 15, 2017 4 notes
#national technocracy

hitherby:

Honestly I don’t think that any of you have any actual good opinions. Just putting that out there. It’s all bad.

I’m a supervillain.  I’m supposed to be evil.  It’s in the script.  Didn’t you read the blog summary?

Jul 15, 2017 46 notes
#supervillain
Jul 15, 2017 23,371 notes
#gendpol #shtpost

argumate:

maddeningscientist said: wait, “nerdsniping blog”?? is this a Genre, how do i get in on this

oh it’s quite simple really,

Jul 15, 2017 5 notes
Jul 15, 2017 64,523 notes
#laugh rule

argumate:

fluffshy:

The difference between the polytheism of fantasy fiction and historical Greece-roman polytheism is that fantasy polytheism tends to be far more consistent, like there are actually rules on how things work instead of the constant shifting and inconsistency which Greek myth tends to have.


(I might be wrong, since I not an expert or anything.)

could it be that the gods can actually exist in fantasy fiction

Local Owl Struck by Lightning

Death an accident, according to Greek man at scene
Jul 15, 2017 82 notes
#shtpost
Jul 15, 2017 852 notes
#nsfw? #gendpol
Jul 15, 2017 341 notes
#shtpost
Jul 15, 2017 10,653 notes
I can understand being terrified to look up non-msm sources on Venezuela. but you can't just believe CNN Breitbart or vice or other mainstream outlets

“Venezuela no longer has the money to fund its lavish social programs because their oil isn’t worth what it used to be and they have nothing anywhere else” isn’t a terribly controversial take though.

Jul 15, 2017 25 notes
#politics
>cricket-sized chickens -- why not chicken-sized crickets?

Also a good option, but this may require a specialized atmospheric chamber.  Once that’s taken care of, mega-crickets can be rebranded as a luxury food for rich people - the Lobster of the Land.

Jul 15, 2017 3 notes
#shtpost
"When We Said The Future is Female, This Isn't What We Meant, You Sick Fucks"

- Andrea Lemon, Jezebel.com, 2054

Jul 15, 2017 4 notes
#shtpost #augmented reality break #chronofelony
How about gentrification? I've seen the pro-property destruction people discussing that, and it's not illegal so appealing to the legal system wouldn't work. And often worker abuse laws are not enforced well, and bringing the lawsuits harms the workers.

1) I do not think ‘your livelihood is destroyed and you are possibly injured or killed in a mass riot’ is an appropriate penalty for ‘some asshole decided you were participating in gentrification’

2) Random mass violence sure is a way to keep property values down, I guess, but if your goal is ‘low property values, period’ rather than ‘livable communities with affordable housing’ then we just profoundly disagree on priorities. 

3) …and rioting and destroying businesses never harms the workers, I’m sure. Look, raise money so exploited workers can quit. Ask them what they want and do that - I guarantee you it’s not going to be ‘smash the business and attract tons of police attention’. Don’t decide for yourself who is guilty, decide for yourself that legal mechanisms won’t work, decide for yourself that peaceful mechanisms won’t work, destroy tons of stuff, and then call that ‘fighting for marginalized people’.  

4) If your radical leftist politics amount to ‘Kristallnacht, but trust us, they deserve it’ then I’m sorry but fuck you.

Jul 15, 2017 163 notes
How about gentrification? I've seen the pro-property destruction people discussing that, and it's not illegal so appealing to the legal system wouldn't work. And often worker abuse laws are not enforced well, and bringing the lawsuits harms the workers.

1) I do not think ‘your livelihood is destroyed and you are possibly injured or killed in a mass riot’ is an appropriate penalty for ‘some asshole decided you were participating in gentrification’

2) Random mass violence sure is a way to keep property values down, I guess, but if your goal is ‘low property values, period’ rather than ‘livable communities with affordable housing’ then we just profoundly disagree on priorities. 

3) …and rioting and destroying businesses never harms the workers, I’m sure. Look, raise money so exploited workers can quit. Ask them what they want and do that - I guarantee you it’s not going to be ‘smash the business and attract tons of police attention’. Don’t decide for yourself who is guilty, decide for yourself that legal mechanisms won’t work, decide for yourself that peaceful mechanisms won’t work, destroy tons of stuff, and then call that ‘fighting for marginalized people’.  

4) If your radical leftist politics amount to ‘Kristallnacht, but trust us, they deserve it’ then I’m sorry but fuck you.

Jul 15, 2017 163 notes

argumate:

darthsquidious:

argumate:

greencerenkov:

argumate:

not like other girls who say they’re not like other girls.

contrarian/metacontrarian position: I am exactly like other girls. I am near the median of the normal distribution of girls

“I’m not the boy your mother warned you about; in fact I’m not sure why I even brought that up.”

I’m the girl your mother warned you would claim to be the girl your mother warned you about.

what if the girl your mother warned you about… was yourself

Argumate was the Most Dangerous Girl all along?

I’m really not sure how I feel about this.

Jul 15, 2017 1,335 notes
#shtpost #except that i need to practice anatomy #visual shtpost #the mitigated exhibition #i guess

ranma-official:

thivus:

ive never actually seen one with my name on it but i think im probably on one of those “BAD PEOPLE:BLOCK IMMEDIETELY” lists somewhere and thats why people ive never interacted with have me blocked

ngl like 80% of people you hang out with either are already literal nazis or defend nazism at every single opportunity

> tags

Here’s a post from recent memory, but I’m not sure how much of it is memeing.

Jul 15, 2017 13 notes
Jul 15, 2017 10,653 notes
Okay, the ESF part of your blog description bugs me not just because of the ideological signifier, but also because I'm both a Gundam fan and a pedant. The Federation in UC was just the "Earth Federation." The ESF is from Gundam Wing, however, and it was formed after the brutal war between thbe Earth-based Romefeller Foundation and the Barton Foundation-backed colony forces. This probably changes the context of its usage in your blog desc.

Actually, I used it in my blog description without originally intending it to refer to Gundam, as it quickly denotes “a federation controlling the entire Earth sphere”.

But now that I’ve engaged in Gundamposting, I should change it!

Also I think they called it the ESF in Gundam 00 too.

Jul 15, 2017 2 notes

luchadoreofliberty:

mutant-aesthetic:

luchadoreofliberty:

libertarianskelly:

luchadoreofliberty:

gospel-panacea:

luchadoreofliberty:

gospel-panacea:

luchadoreofliberty:

gospel-panacea:

luchadoreofliberty:

a libertarian who likes fascism or nationalism was never a libertarian to begin with. they were conservatives using the label much like the libertarian party is just about weed and cia shill coporation

This is ideology, not religion. People’s minds are capable of evolution.

how is fascism evolution? are you high on meth?

9 out of 10 ideologies are better than libertarianism, the other is communism.

Future purged brown shirt found.

We’ll be doing the purging actually.

You don’t get it. You all be purged by your own fascist leaders or left for dead in the next Stalingrad. You are a moron. Every fascist state lead to self implosion and lost every war. You are a dumb ass.

So nationalism of any kind, including liking living in Texas rather than California is bad?

Name one instance where nationalism has not led to war or state violence.

This is a bad point because even without nationalism there is still war and violence

blaming nationalism for violence is like blaming religion for violence

Wrong. Nationalism emphasizes conflict, the other, and war. It can only survive on external and internal threats

Name one instance of immune system function that has not lead to microscopic violence.

To put it simply, in this world, an ideology can only be physically instantiated if a sufficiently large, well-armed, well-organized, and well-resourced group are willing to literally fight to the death to ensure it is so.  They may not actually have to fight to the death, but the credibility of the threat must be there.

Libertarianism will not be instantiated if the culture does not support it.  It doesn’t matter how “objectively moral” it is.  If people with the means to enforce their views do not want it, it will not happen.

I don’t particularly care for Libertarianism except as a counter-weight, but it’s easy to see that some Libertarians have noticed that the cultural demographics matter when it comes to whether or not there will be Libertarianism.

Jul 14, 2017 301 notes
#politics

argumate:

but in this year of our lord 2k17 I’m actually genuinely uncertain as to whether describing Japan’s schoolgirl obsession as “kinda messed up” counts as woke or reactionary.

Publicly, woke so they won’t decide to Normalize Schoolgirlhoodphilia or something just to spite reactionaries. Privately? Reactionary.

Jul 14, 2017 16 notes
#gender politics
Jul 14, 2017 963 notes

drethelin:

drethelin:

mitigatedchaos:

@drethelin

It isn’t just government subsidies that are in effect when a company doesn’t pay enough to keep workers alive.

The company can also be indirectly subsidized by draining the social and other capital of families, relatives, kind strangers, and whoever keeps those employees alive.

This is “efficient,” not actually efficient.

The alternative is to openly embrace social darwinism, which also deprives society and the economy in general all future value of the worker based on what their feasible value is right now, which may cause a rather significant net loss.

( @collapsedsquid may know if someone has explicitly studied this )

Making it impossible to fire people isn’t a good idea, but letting companies free ride on society’s / the country’s generosity isn’t such a great idea, either.  

Now, you may say that direct wage subsidies have to come out of taxes, but those taxes likely aren’t going to come from the scarce poor-families-capital currently subsidizing Walmart, and it significantly reduces the competitive advantage of such behavior.  Additionally, with more jobs profitable for more workers, there is more competition between employers to quit being jerks to the working class, which is currently distorted by the massive power imbalance between the working class as individuals and corporations with their collective bargaining power.  It’s also less expensive than welfare since it stacks public funding with private funding, instead of running a straight loss, and if structured correctly, it still strongly incentivizes these workers to pursue higher-paying, more economically valuable work.

Or we could start billing Walmart for the billions of dollars in public assistance their workers receive, but that would be a much less efficient solution with similar effects to raising the wage floor.

If walmart vanished, those workers would still be getting public assistance. They are purely making the situation better. If there was anyone around who would be paying those workers better, or enough to NOT need public assistance, they would be working there instead. This is a common progressive instinct: Making the perfect the enemy of the good. It’s far far better that walmart exists and pays the wages it does than if it didn’t. And the most important beneficiaries of Walmart’s low wages aren’t even Walmart’s profits: It’s everyone, primarily poor people, who shops there. 

By subsidizing Walmart’s cheap goods and convenience (having a huge selection and being open 24 hours), the USG is actually helping out the poor people a lot!

If you put a bomb in someone’s skull, you have a lot of leverage and can get them to do just about anything, up to the point that they are willing to die to refuse your demands.

And if they’ll merely be homeless?  Well that’s not quite as much leverage, but it’s still a lot of leverage.  Walmart can walk away with only a few less hours served, but the workers may not necessarily be able to.  This imbalance in the amount of skin in the game may mean that Walmart wages are artificially low, even without Medicare preventing their employees from dying of medical conditions.

In this case, I feel it would be better for the workers and their working conditions if we made the subsidies more explicit, so Walmart and everyone else could stop pretending they aren’t being effectively subsidized.  And while the effective hourly wages might not rise as much due to not generating that much value, the influx of competing job options into the marketplace would likely result in competition over working conditions, which are one of the things that makes life for the working class so unbearable.

Jul 14, 2017 5 notes
#the invisible fist

theunitofcaring:

The form of direct action against abusive employers that I personally find the most tempting (this doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or anything, just that I daydream about it):

Employees often don’t file legal complaints about wage fraud and illegal conditions because they can’t afford to lose the job because they’re living paycheck to paycheck. I expect that many people in this situation would quit their horrible job and file a legal complaint if they would be given like $1200 to tide them and their family over while they found a new job. 

So here’s what I’d be tempted to do: ask people online to tell you about a business that’s engaging in wage and hours violations/otherwise really shitty but still its employees’ best option. Find one with like 10-15 employees. Fundraise money within your activist group and online to get enough money for every single employee to walk away. 

Then the employees go to their boss and say ‘the next time you take half our tips even though you’re not legally allowed to take any/make us come in when we’re really sick/deduct damaged merchandise from our paychecks/etc, we all walk away. We have filed a wage claim in court. If you retaliate for that, we all walk away.’

And then, you know, next time the employer breaks the law, any employee who wants to follow through on the threat gets $1200 to support them once they’ve quit. And then you publicize the heck out of it, and scare other shitty employers, and hopefully the wage claim is successful and your employees get recompensed the money they were owed. And you open online applications for the next place.

You’d have to be very careful to go after places with real, documented, verified workplace conditions violations, because most of the benefit is in the publicity and the scaring other employers into shaping up. And you can’t scare people into shaping up if they don’t know exactly what they need to do (meet their legal obligations). You could only go after small places, because you need most of the employees on the same page and because fundraising larger sums of money would be harder. 

But with the right fundraising and PR team, I bet you could create conditions under which employers are way more scared to cheat their employees. 

Because employees lack negotiating leverage, the government should have a network of secret labor law informants, such that no business can be entirely sure they won’t get smacked down hard for flagrant violations. Simultaneously, the labor laws could be simplified.

Jul 14, 2017 182 notes
#policy #the invisible fist #the iron hand
How about gentrification? I've seen the pro-property destruction people discussing that, and it's not illegal so appealing to the legal system wouldn't work. And often worker abuse laws are not enforced well, and bringing the lawsuits harms the workers.

1) I do not think ‘your livelihood is destroyed and you are possibly injured or killed in a mass riot’ is an appropriate penalty for ‘some asshole decided you were participating in gentrification’

2) Random mass violence sure is a way to keep property values down, I guess, but if your goal is ‘low property values, period’ rather than ‘livable communities with affordable housing’ then we just profoundly disagree on priorities. 

3) …and rioting and destroying businesses never harms the workers, I’m sure. Look, raise money so exploited workers can quit. Ask them what they want and do that - I guarantee you it’s not going to be ‘smash the business and attract tons of police attention’. Don’t decide for yourself who is guilty, decide for yourself that legal mechanisms won’t work, decide for yourself that peaceful mechanisms won’t work, destroy tons of stuff, and then call that ‘fighting for marginalized people’.  

4) If your radical leftist politics amount to ‘Kristallnacht, but trust us, they deserve it’ then I’m sorry but fuck you.

Jul 14, 2017 163 notes
#urban planning #politics

@drethelin

It isn’t just government subsidies that are in effect when a company doesn’t pay enough to keep workers alive.

The company can also be indirectly subsidized by draining the social and other capital of families, relatives, kind strangers, and whoever keeps those employees alive.

This is “efficient,” not actually efficient.

The alternative is to openly embrace social darwinism, which also deprives society and the economy in general all future value of the worker based on what their feasible value is right now, which may cause a rather significant net loss.

( @collapsedsquid may know if someone has explicitly studied this )

Making it impossible to fire people isn’t a good idea, but letting companies free ride on society’s / the country’s generosity isn’t such a great idea, either.  

Now, you may say that direct wage subsidies have to come out of taxes, but those taxes likely aren’t going to come from the scarce poor-families-capital currently subsidizing Walmart, and it significantly reduces the competitive advantage of such behavior.  Additionally, with more jobs profitable for more workers, there is more competition between employers to quit being jerks to the working class, which is currently distorted by the massive power imbalance between the working class as individuals and corporations with their collective bargaining power.  It’s also less expensive than welfare since it stacks public funding with private funding, instead of running a straight loss, and if structured correctly, it still strongly incentivizes these workers to pursue higher-paying, more economically valuable work.

Or we could start billing Walmart for the billions of dollars in public assistance their workers receive, but that would be a much less efficient solution with similar effects to raising the wage floor.

Jul 14, 2017 5 notes
#the invisible fist

Anaisnein, I went to reblog your comment but Tumblr wanted to say Mutant Aesthetic was saying it. Weird. Anyhow, I used “Communist” and “not uncommon” because Social Democracy, intelligently managed, does not have the same rate of imploding. You can get away with it if you’re smart about it. (But also I was annoyed at the anon, who is in denial.)

Jul 14, 2017 3 notes

drethelin:

voxette-vk:

belvarine:

shieldfoss:

shieldfoss:

blackestsabbath:

yveinthesky:

Every time I read up on why Walmart failed in Germany again I am massively entertained.

I can recommend it to everyone. 

Google “Why Walmart failed in Germany”. 

Hours of entertainment. 

Why walmart failed in Germany:

https://thetimchannel.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/w024.pdf

My Lidl Entrepeneur: Capitalism is Magic.

The EURO-conversion was used by retailers to raise prices. Aldi, however, reacted with the biggest price reduction of its corporate history. As a result, it was able to double its profits.

Paragraph edited for clarity - the original is on page 17.

Imagine that - taking market share by improving service and prices.

EDIT: Mind you, some of Walmart’s failure is absolutely because the government has put bars on the free maket that made it illegal for them to succeed:

With organic growth close to being a mission impossible for hypermarket operators due to stringent* planning and zoning regulations

Soon faced with rapidly mounting losses, Wal-Mart’s management resorted to staff cuts and closures to reduce its above-average personnel costs. Due to strict worker protection regulations, however, making surplus workers redundant can be a complicated, lengthy and costly affair in Germany – a cumbersome fact of life for its German competitors, but, obviously, terra incognita for Wal-Mart Germany’s (mostly) American executives

* Stringent is explained elsewhere in the text and it is, indeed, stringent.

Beautiful article. My favorite parts:

- The leading retail strategy in Germany is “hard discounting” which offers a very narrow selection of high quality products at “rock bottom” prices. Aldi rules at this and hard discount retailers control a third of the market. In the UK etc this accounts for less than a tenth of the market. This is the polar opposite of Walmart’s “sell literally everything” strategy.
- Germany has zoning laws that favor smaller buildings. This works in favor of hard discounters because they offer a narrow selection and minimalist shopping environment. Compare to Walmart’s “browse an entire warehouse and grocery store then eat at one of several restaurants” model.
- Germany has antitrust/fair trade laws that forbid merchants from permanently selling goods below cost. This is Walmart’s favorite strategy famously observed in the gallon-jar pickle campaign.
- Germany only allows retailers to be open for 80 hours per week, compared to 196 in the UK, 96 in the Netherlands, and 144 in France.
- Walmart refused to recognize the outcome of the collective wage negotiation process with their German unionized employees and were “completely surprised” when said unions promptly organized walkouts in 30 stores. They were probably surprised because of their millions of US employees, only 12 are known to be unionized. This gave Walmart a “union basher” rep in Germany where unions are influential and popular.
- Walmart tried to pull their “hire a ton of employees and give them shitty part time hours so we don’t have to give them full-time benefits” but worker protection laws prevented this and Walmart was forced to compete on product margins and services rather than recouping losses by shafting their employees. Aldi was able to match their prices cent for cent, but offered better service and more value.
- Walmart repeatedly defied German antitrust laws like “You must provide your balance sheet and annual profit/loss statement” and “You must provide a bottle/plastic refund system for products you sell.” None of the other leading German retailers had a problem sustaining growth and profit while complying with these laws.
- Germany put some dude from Arkansas in charge of the acquisition. He didn’t speak German. Anyone who’s spent time with Germans can imagine how well this probably went over.


So basically Walmart rolled up to Germany and tried to play its usual game of “buy out entire supply chains, sell products below cost until competitors are dry, then use their market reach to demand bulk orders from suppliers at near-zero margins, all the while keeping stores open 24/7 to maintain a huge pool of redundant part time workers at minimum wage with no benefits to reduce operating costs and further subsidize more supply chain buyouts” and the heavily unionized, aggressively antitrust, worker protection, high value low price German market laughed in their dumb weasel faces and sent them packing.

Meanwhile, Aldi, who has been commanding the German market while complying with all these regulations, has been expanding seamlessly into the US and has owned Trader Joe’s since 1979, which sells twice as much per square foot as Whole Foods.

This article is a beautiful demonstration that the only reason shitty companies like Walmart keep biting us in the ass in the US is because our leaders refuse to put them on a leash.

Well, I agree with the general point that Walmart couldn’t succeed in Germany because Germany basically had regulations making Walmart illegal.

But I disagree with your normative evaluation of that outcome.

Germany: Makes convenience and low prices illegal

You: HAHA WALMART BTFO I LOVE TO PAY MORE MONEY FOR SHIT

Walmart is de facto subsidized by the US government as many of its employees are on various kinds of welfare.

So how about instead of all this bullshit we issue direct-to-employee wage subsidies to simultaneously improve conditions for the working poor and increase competition. It isn’t fair if only unethical companies that loot the commons and free-ride on the social consequences of their actions get this advantage.

Jul 14, 2017 56,648 notes
#the invisible fist
Jul 14, 2017 14 notes
#gendpol
How about gentrification? I've seen the pro-property destruction people discussing that, and it's not illegal so appealing to the legal system wouldn't work. And often worker abuse laws are not enforced well, and bringing the lawsuits harms the workers.

1) I do not think ‘your livelihood is destroyed and you are possibly injured or killed in a mass riot’ is an appropriate penalty for ‘some asshole decided you were participating in gentrification’

2) Random mass violence sure is a way to keep property values down, I guess, but if your goal is ‘low property values, period’ rather than ‘livable communities with affordable housing’ then we just profoundly disagree on priorities. 

3) …and rioting and destroying businesses never harms the workers, I’m sure. Look, raise money so exploited workers can quit. Ask them what they want and do that - I guarantee you it’s not going to be ‘smash the business and attract tons of police attention’. Don’t decide for yourself who is guilty, decide for yourself that legal mechanisms won’t work, decide for yourself that peaceful mechanisms won’t work, destroy tons of stuff, and then call that ‘fighting for marginalized people’.  

4) If your radical leftist politics amount to ‘Kristallnacht, but trust us, they deserve it’ then I’m sorry but fuck you.

Jul 14, 2017 163 notes

discoursedrome:

argumate:

there’s a reverse slippery slope effect where a range of related things all get described as ‘eugenics’:

1. attempting to commit genocide

2. using force or coercion to control the reproduction of others

3. offering incentives or encouragement to influence the reproduction of others

4. making observations that could imply that people should reproduce at different rates

5. simply observing that people currently reproduce at different rates

I think the only way to be completely safe from accusations of eugenics in the first few senses is to avoid any observations of reproduction rates and definitely avoid making any suggestions of how they might be changed, no matter how indirectly or consensually.

One thing that’s interesting to me is how, with the lapsing of most government efforts to forcibly enact eugenic policies, the eugenic aspects of personal family planning become more relevant. People would generally react pretty poorly if the government mandated that all fetuses with serious developmental problems be aborted or genetically modified, but given the ability to notice this and do something about it themselves, people will still do it often enough to have a visible effect over time.

Getting away from the “eu” pretext entirely, sex-selective abortion is already a thing with visible downstream effects. These are things we can grapple with by attempting to reduce stigma, but there will always be some sorts of people heavily stigmatized, and the ability to detect that a real or hypothetical child belongs to those groups before birth or even before conception is going to continue to increase. So at some point people are going to be stuck having to decide which they like better, personal bodily autonomy or forbidding eugenics, and it’ll be a messy situation all around.

I mean, if you offer me the choice between a baby that’s directly related to me and a genetically-engineered gauranteed above-average-or-better designer baby that’s directly related to me, I’m gonna take the second one, because there is no reason for me to have a crippled baby if the baby does not yet exist.

There is no advantage whatsoever to a severe peanut allergy, for instance (though I don’t have one). Most of the SJ stuff is based on the people already existing, and it isn’t their fault peanut allergies are a thing, but a hypothetical person that doesn’t exist yet doesn’t have the same moral weight as a person that already does.

Jul 14, 2017 26 notes
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I can understand being terrified to look up non-msm sources on Venezuela. but you can't just believe CNN Breitbart or vice or other mainstream outlets

“Venezuela no longer has the money to fund its lavish social programs because their oil isn’t worth what it used to be and they have nothing anywhere else” isn’t a terribly controversial take though.

Jul 14, 2017 25 notes

argumate:

there’s a reverse slippery slope effect where a range of related things all get described as ‘eugenics’:

1. attempting to commit genocide

2. using force or coercion to control the reproduction of others

3. offering incentives or encouragement to influence the reproduction of others

4. making observations that could imply that people should reproduce at different rates

5. simply observing that people currently reproduce at different rates

I think the only way to be completely safe from accusations of eugenics in the first few senses is to avoid any observations of reproduction rates and definitely avoid making any suggestions of how they might be changed, no matter how indirectly or consensually.

Obviously you’re only makimg this post because you secretly want to practice eugenics.

Do not worry, comrade. I, too, believe that the state should subsidize the eventual heritable genetic treatment to remove peanut allergies.

Jul 14, 2017 26 notes

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

mods are asleep, post discourse

The existence of tall buildings is racist against short people.  Also, with a unique culture and phenotypical presentation, short people are a race.

The Mongols should be charged - with interest - for the costly effects of the raids of their ancestors, just as some people consider doing for other countries and ethnic groups.

Eucalyptus is an invasive species within the range of the United States.  The President should task the military with eradicating it from the country.

Instead of making protein bars out of crickets, we should breed cricket-sized chickens.

The Institute for Ethical Supervillainy is not a valid cause for Effective Altruism.

Trolley Problem Waifus for Those with No Laifus: Real Facebook page, produced by a neural network, or something I made up just now?  Our fifteen-member expert panel debates.

The existence of tall people is racist against short people.

The Mongols countersue for retroactive carbon credits for the forest boom that occurred after they depopulated a swath of central Asia.

People are an invasive species within the United States.

We should take regular protein bars and give them feathers and sentience.

Since supervillains are proactive and superheroes reactive, supervillainy is ultimately humanity’s only chance of surviving the long-term threats it faces.

In the future all panels of talking head pundits will be structured like anime harem comedies.

Since supervillains are proactive and superheroes reactive, supervillainy is ultimately humanity’s only chance of surviving the long-term threats it faces.

Fuck, he’s on to me.

Jul 14, 2017 94 notes
#shtpost

argumate:

mods are asleep, post discourse

The existence of tall buildings is racist against short people.  Also, with a unique culture and phenotypical presentation, short people are a race.

The Mongols should be charged - with interest - for the costly effects of the raids of their ancestors, just as some people consider doing for other countries and ethnic groups.

Eucalyptus is an invasive species within the range of the United States.  The President should task the military with eradicating it from the country.

Instead of making protein bars out of crickets, we should breed cricket-sized chickens.

The Institute for Ethical Supervillainy is not a valid cause for Effective Altruism.

Trolley Problem Waifus for Those with No Laifus: Real Facebook page, produced by a neural network, or something I made up just now?  Our fifteen-member expert panel debates.

Jul 14, 2017 94 notes
#shtpost
Jul 14, 2017 12 notes
“Perhaps the most widely practiced code of ethical behaviour is human rights. However, statements of human rights are often vague, and give little guidance on the question of when it’s permissible to violate someone’s rights, or how to deal with conflicts between them.”—

80000 Hours explains in two sentences why humans are fucked (via wirehead-wannabe)

At this point, I like to imagine you have a big collection labeled “issues” like some people collect butterflies, all conveniently sorted so you can show them to guests.

“And this book is my issues with overly-aggressive criminal justice systems.”

“What about this one?  It looks pretty.”

“My issues with collecting issues.  It’s a bit too meta so I don’t like to talk about it.”

Jul 14, 2017 17 notes
Bernie Sanders might not even make it til Black Friday and y'all talking about 2020 he like 96 today

ranma-official:

oh yeah loser then explain this

There are many worlds, Ranma, my friend.

You may not want to know about the others.

Jul 14, 2017 20,408 notes
#chronofelony #shtpost

argumate:

@sadoeconomist:

And what Hayek was saying was that it was very murky indeed even back in 1977 how exactly social justice was defined

Hayek presumably is fighting a rearguard action against any attempt to include redistribution under the label of “justice”.

Of course, there’s always a risk if you include redistribution in justice and then get carried away with it or apply it selectively, so I’m mostly opposed to collective intergenerational justice in anything more than weak forms.

Jul 14, 2017 15 notes
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The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a sword is a good guy with a bigger sword.  I have been assured this is how medieval combat works.

Jul 14, 2017 3 notes
#shtpost
hot take

ranma-official:

the general right-wing sentiment that children aren’t being abused at optimal rates and the cure for being transgender is as much abuse as possible is pretty much reified in Kenneth Zucker’s trans youth conversion therapy program

Now see, someone assumed I identified as right-wing, but if I identified as right-wing, people would either expect me to defend Libertarianism or “youth conversion therapy” and I’m not interested in defending either.

Jul 14, 2017 11 notes
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