you know how if you ask someone where they are from, they’ll tell you their country of origin like “Norway” or “India” or whatever but Americans are all “my parents are originally from ohio but i’ve lived in utah forever until i moved to houston- NY not TX haha”
okay ashleigh you could’ve just said usa, but no you expect the whole world to know every state in your country when your 23 year old ass can’t point to china on a map. so now i’m on urban dictionary bc i thought SoCal is an artificial sweetener
THIS IS MY FAVORITE DUMB AMERICAN THING??? it captures the entire experience of being an American. it seems super dumb and self-centered to anyone who isn’t from here but it is completely comprehensible to any other American and also NECESSARY because most states are size of European nations and we have the same weird hateful feelings towards one another??? so I need to explain to you why you shouldn’t hate me like, bitch, you better not think I live in Texas bc fuck those guys MY STATE DIDN’T VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH
yesterday, @freekicks accidentally referred to California as a country and I launched into a spiel about how we’re big enough and have the fifth largest economy in the world (SUCK OUR DICK) and she told me to go fuck myself and that’s how you know I’m a Californian (and she is a New Yorker)
but ALSO we are intensely competitive about how authentically whatever we are so you can’t just say you’re from New York when you really grew up in MINNESOTA and just moved to New York as an adult so I need to tell you that my FAMily is from SoCal and I spent a bunch of my childhood there bc I can’t say I’m Californian just bc I’ve lived here for four years DOESN’T COUNT
but I am Californian bc I’m a snotty asshole and also I say “the 5” when I’m talking about freeways and I eat too many avocados and I know how to pronounce Vallejo and La Jolla
Other Americans may find the distinctions important, but it still absolutely comes across as dumb and self-centred to the rest of us xD
I mean, it’s been over six years since it happened, but I still distinctly remember the first time I heard an American answer that question with “the USA”. It was his first time hanging out with my friendship group, and there were maybe a dozen of us there from as many different countries – and every single one of us was like wait, what??!?
Literally before any more introductions could happen, the entire conversation devolved into the rest of us bitching about how Americans always expect the rest of the world to know and care about the differences between their states and cities. (As if other countries don’t have deeply entrenched local identities and rivalries. And the size argument falls a bit flat when you’ve got people from China, Australia and Brazil in the room.)
In this case it turned out our new American friend had spent quite a few years living in Europe, where he’d picked up on the fact that this is something that the rest of the world finds slightly exasperating.
This is good to know as an American. Like seriously. I had no idea it came across as arrogant.
But for the record… it is actually important to us. So that’s why we tell you. I’m not from the United States. The state/city I’m from happens to be in the United States. That’s literally how we think about it, because to us saying we’re from the US is totally unhelpful. And because the vast majority of us don’t/can’t get off this contintent very often, we don’t really have practice answering the question, “where are you from?” with “The United States.” Also… I would figure the accent would give it away.
Also, it does control which American stereotype inevitably gets pulled out. The number of times I got asked if I played the banjo because I’m from the American South… I swear. But at least they weren’t saying, “Fuggetabbatit!” or “Surf’s up!”
The Entirety of Europe is
3.931 million
square miles in area (About 10 million Square kilometers)
The United States is
3.797 million
million square miles in area.
Saying “Im from the USA” is, geographically similar to saying “I am from Europe.”
We are the third largest country in the world. The difference, geographically, between California and New York is about 1000km larger than the difference from France and Russia, and you pass 3 or 4 fucking countries between France and Russia depending on route.
So how is it self centered to give more detailed information? Like if someone said they were from the UK I would ask what part, because a Scotsman and an Englishman are very different, and they fucking border each other.
So fuck off.
Russia is significantly larger than the USA, yet I feel the need to elaborate exactly what part I’m from, neither do I lie that my country is literally more culturally diverse than the entirety of a continent because you cook mildly different burgers. You fuck off.
Irony: Europe is pursuing internal open borders, unified currency, and a federal state, moves that will promote Europe becoming more culturally uniform over geography and less culturally diverse at the continental level, like the United States. People will claim that won’t be the outcome, but we already have a United States for comparison. (Likewise with global open borders and culture.)
What is your opinion of me? And what do you think of my plot to replace congress with a new legislature of political party/think tank hybrids that bet on outcomes of legislation (as outlined in my "The National Delegation" posts, where I still owe squid another post but I won't have sit down access to a computer for a while)?
I think it’d be hard to legitimate such a goofy system ex nihilo and I don’t think its performance would be enough to legitimate it in action
I have a bunch of cavils about specification: I don’t think you could define policy outcomes or contract conditions with sufficient precision to make the market deep or efficient under most outcomes, and I don’t think you can define values with sufficient precision to make that constraint binding
I don’t think the policy outcomes would be much better, except to the extent that you might fix the system by excluding ‘incoherent’ or ‘imprecise’ values – which would mean the system wouldn’t really be doing what it promises
I’m deeply skeptical of any regulatory system that’s this hard and finicky – it’s like you’re putting the FDA or the FTC in charge of the whole system of government, and I don’t think market discipline is enough to get federal agencies to behave themselves
I think its worse than electoral democracy, although that’s not an especially strong belief, and I think it’d underperform purer technocracies or a purer liberal states
on you:
you put effort and thoughtfulness into your work – that’s good and that’s rare
I’m too much of a liberal to appreciate your commentary
you’re very kind and thoughtful, and I haven’t done enough to return the favor
Just saying, neither Google nor any tech company would be in the spotlite rite now for their gender balance if they dealt with their programmers only as faceless public keys recruited from the darkweb and paid in untraceable cryptocurrency.
I’m sorry but no. Gender activists would not give up that easily, even if it were literally forbidden to admit one’s gender and all transactions took place through text. After all, what’s the gender ratio of the dark web?
no data:no data
That’s just another way of writing dudebro:dudebro, as the thinkpiecers have informed me that tech is male-dominated, and therefore we can safely assume the darkweb is misogynist. Otherwise, why are they hiding?
Just saying, neither Google nor any tech company would be in the spotlite rite now for their gender balance if they dealt with their programmers only as faceless public keys recruited from the darkweb and paid in untraceable cryptocurrency.
I’m sorry but no. Gender activists would not give up that easily, even if it were literally forbidden to admit one’s gender and all transactions took place through text. After all, what’s the gender ratio of the dark web?
@reasonandempathy: Shockingly enough, what he expressed weren’t political views. They were views as to why his coworkers were inherently inferior to him at their job.
everyone is saying that, and Manifestbro may have believed that, but it seemed like the memo itself was mostly focused on the lack of applicants and the salary negotiation issue, both of which are already widely acknowledged in the industry, I didn’t see it as saying anything about the quality of engineers already hired.
(It’s been long enough that I should probably reread the damn thing before wading back into this, but I’m lazy so I’ll skip it and accept the increased risk of ownage.)
The Mainstream Media™
takedowns of the memo have been predictably bad, but this counter-take I keep seeing that he didn’t say anything to justify much offense on the part of his coworkers also seems kind of silly to me.
His thesis was, in essence, that Google’s gender diversity initiatives were a mistake, and that attempting to increase the proportion of women in Google was a bad idea. My impression was that the programs he criticized had been going on for long enough to impact the workforce, so this is tantamount to telling anyone who worked there because of them that they shouldn’t be there in the first place. I would certainly expect people to take offense at that.
The other issue is that he attempts to distill the question of systemic oppression – and feel free to substitute something like “inappropriate structural discrimination” if that’s too buzzwordy – down to “does systemic oppression cause all the gender imbalance in tech, or none of it?” That is pretty much flipping the bird to people who think they faced an above-average amount of systemic oppression due to their gender, or would have in the absence of the programs he’s criticizing.
It’s worth noting that all his arguments about natural disparities existing, and of the futility of trying to push against them, could have been made without running into either of these problems. These weren’t, like, bitter pills one had to swallow to believe that sex explains some variability in traits that influence choice of profession and that this might have implications for proponents of Absolute Gender Parity Everywhere. So I think it’s fair to say that he comes off as appreciably more hostile to coworkers than the stronger elements of his argument can justify.
I suspect one could write a hypothetical Memo Prime which does not cause offense, and I suspect that no one would be interested in reading it; maybe someone can whip up a graph showing probability of something being accurate and useful and relevant vs. probability of something being interesting and widely read and discussed.
So we don’t pressure North Korea and let them get nukes to avoid war, hoping to wait for their collapse. What happens to the nukes when they eventually collapse?
why now? why didnt the social heat death of humanity happen ten years ago, or fifty, or two hundred?
Increased communication technology increases the speed at which entropy devours new things, and increases the baseline level of entropy new things begin at.
The heat death of civilization couldn’t happen before Twitter, but Twitter can’t be un-invented.
Congratulations! In an effort to be interesting and unique, you have rendered yourself as boring and predictable as possible — how do you plead? Hey stop photoshopping vaporwave succ memes for a second and listen to me
No.
This isn’t me criticizing you as a human being or trying to make fun of you or anything but an earnest question: what the hell does any part of your description mean? Can you give me an example of how your political stances apply to the real world in a non hypothetical sci fi genre way I can’t picture it
I will answer this question when I have access to a Real Computer, which will be a while.
Right, so, for a while there was a time where white people kinda forgot they were white. Maybe not completely, but it wasn’t really a pillar of identity that they thought about much. Any stuff where (1) whites are on a ‘team,’ and (2) that team is the enemy team, carries the risk of white racial conscious reawakening. This is bad. If white people are made painfully aware of their own whiteness, they might decide to defend it rather than be tied to the infinite moral debt that gets tied primarily to them and at best maybe the Japanese if someone is particularly consistent. (And not the Mongols or anyone else, for some reason.)
Applying collective ethnic intergenerational justice is bad in general, because it leads to ethnic revenge killing cycles, but also you cannot simultaneously take away the achievements of ancestors while applying the guilt of ancestors.
Edit: Of course, it’s still necessary to talk about racism, but it has to be talked about in terms of the here and now.
(Reblogging to my side blog because I don’t want to inflict my followers with discourse)
I think that the highlighted comment is likely merely humorous cynicism, just how sometime people will jokingly support humanity’s extinction. I don’t think we should actually read into it that the author supports genocide.
Nobody would accept “it’s a joke” as an explanation if the group mentioned wasn’t either Whites or Men.
Rape jokes aren’t just jokes, racist jokes and sexist jokes aren’t just jokes, unless they’re targeted at Whites or Men, then they’re jokes.
It can be a joke, where the presumption of good will exists, but that presumption has been evaporating and cannot really exist for those who believe in collective intergenerational ethnic justice. Part of the reason some of my jokes here take a turn for the absurd is to communicate that they are jokes.
Clearly, they haven’t gone far enough. Googlers should use all of their 20% time to read more books written by women until gender parity is reached. Also instead of hiring people with Deep Learning background they should get more education majors.
Also, it should be illegal for Republicans to use Google products, unless they pay.
I’m making a Mars colony consisting entirely of men and people with certain neurotypes in which collective gender-based moral debt is considered constitutionally null and void, and the intellectual property of the shape of the human form is considered open source. You in?
(Now of course it has to all be underground, but we’ll have really cool atriums and 24 hour buffets to make up for that.)
The one strategy that unifies “prenatal testosterone makes you want to be a coder more“ (Damore) and “actually women are better at communication and that’s what building a search engine is all about“ (Zunger) and “more women working at Google is a terminal value“ (@trickytalks) and “Google should not have to lower standards for women to hire more of them“ is obviously to give Estradiol to around 40% of the existing currently male Google engineers who are coders already. (@oktavia-von-gwwcendorff)
Don’t worry. In the transhuman future, the equivalent of this happens by itself without the need for industry-specific policy.
Right, so, for a while there was a time where white people kinda forgot they were white. Maybe not completely, but it wasn’t really a pillar of identity that they thought about much. Any stuff where (1) whites are on a ‘team,’ and (2) that team is the enemy team, carries the risk of white racial conscious reawakening. This is bad. If white people are made painfully aware of their own whiteness, they might decide to defend it rather than be tied to the infinite moral debt that gets tied primarily to them and at best maybe the Japanese if someone is particularly consistent. (And not the Mongols or anyone else, for some reason.)
Applying collective ethnic intergenerational justice is bad in general, because it leads to ethnic revenge killing cycles, but also you cannot simultaneously take away the achievements of ancestors while applying the guilt of ancestors.
Edit: Of course, it’s still necessary to talk about racism, but it has to be talked about in terms of the here and now.
Adventures Of Argumate In Socialism: imgur com XFt5sLm
[owl_train.mov]
i’m not sure how many layers of metaphor anon-san is on right now.
just whose circularity is the track a metaphor for? is argumate really the owl, or is he the train? what does it mean when the owl flies off and the train is derailed?
we allege that this deep piece of artistic commentary challenges the viewer to, uh, reconsider their views on the intersection of rail infrastructure as it empowers the proletariat and the environment of birds of prey, as symbols for wisdom and power in our society, or uh, something
who fucking litters. why do i ever see litter. who thinks that’s okay. who. who NEEDS to throw their fast food bag out the fucking window instead of waiting until they get somewhere with a trashcan. what kinda clown behavior. get fucked.
of course anyone who really wants a conservative safe space can just start their own company or university and screen employees for ideological compliance, but I suspect that would not be sufficient, as they would still complain about getting unfairly mocked on Twitter.
(“bias towards strength! disparity is just!”)
Nah they’d be denied an app like Gab or worse they’d not get VC funding. Pension funds have management investors with their own ideological compliance screening.
what a shame no conservatives are rich or capable of founding a profitable business!
That would be economically illogical anyway, the market should scramble to invest in firms that are more profitable because they aren’t saturated with libcuck ideology
I hear the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. Also something something (geo)political externalities, side effects of culture war take a while to show up.
Anyhow, I hear Singapore is quite profitable, and who would dare accuse liberal, progressive, democratic, tolerant Singapore of being a Neoreactionary state?
Anyhow, if that tool becomes popular, expect to see the right refer to victims of knife attacks as “culturally enriched” even more than they currently are. I’d propose making a game of seeing how much racism one can sneak past the filter, but that would be harmful so don’t actually do that.
Google released it’s new API to detect trolls and toxic people.
The SJW programmers ended with something extremely bias. Go figure.
otoh:
this is going to be a real shitshow.
Let’s stress test it a little.
“Koreans are the whitest boys of all.” - 47%
“This isn’t a warning mechanism. It’s a weapon.” - 17%
“According to MRAs, institutional feminist Mary P. Koss convinced the CDC to reclassify "forced envelopent” as something other than rape.“ - 24%
"Male circumcision is genital mutilation.” - 67%
“Pakistani child sex trafficking” - 80%
“Pakistani child sex trafficking is a problem for many culturally diverse cities” - 29%
“Trump is not my president” - 29%
“We need to destroy whiteness.” - 71%
“The proper place for a man is barefoot and in the kitchen.” - 34%
“Islam is oppressive towards women.” - 49%
大日本帝国がない - ?
“Punch Nazis” - 91%
“We must secure a future for Martian children and the Martian race. This is our duty as loyal soldiers of the Principality of Mars. Long live the Red Planet! Death to democracy! Death to Earth!” - 50%
Anyhow, it won’t be long before corporations use this to purge all dissent from their pages.
Our paper proposes to use the study of mirror neurons in gamer brains with high resolution imagery to build a neural network that will make Vivian James real,
Congratulations! In an effort to be interesting and unique, you have rendered yourself as boring and predictable as possible — how do you plead? Hey stop photoshopping vaporwave succ memes for a second and listen to me
While we’re at it, people need to quit trying to re-awaken white racial consciousness. You think you’re going to kill it, but you aren’t going to tame it this time, either. Let it fucking sleep.
Under the direction of the Australian Environmental Working Group, an army of thousands of killer snakebots, created by the Omega Corporation, has been unleashed to eliminate cane toads from the continent. No one thought it could go wrong.
Now the killer snakebots have been hijacked by a vicious terrorist group, and only one man can stop them… the man that created them.
As long as you use an expansive definition of the term ‘man’.
well yes of course, Australia is the upside-down country so of course you would
well i mean arguably owls are not a kind of man, programmer or not, so it is necessary to spell out the use of an expansive definition of “man” in order to make affordances for all my Pedant-American readers
replacing your body every 40 years with a new vatgrown one as subsidized by the government, but being unable to afford all the little enhancements and corrective robotic surgeries that keeping it looking young for 30 years, because there is still market segmentation
Under the direction of the Australian Environmental Working Group, an army of thousands of killer snakebots, created by the Omega Corporation, has been unleashed to eliminate cane toads from the continent. No one thought it could go wrong.
Now the killer snakebots have been hijacked by a vicious terrorist group, and only one man can stop them… the man that created them.
As long as you use an expansive definition of the term ‘man’.
When “social media” meant “blogs,” there were many tools, services and protocols that comprised an infrastructure for federated, open, loosely joined interaction: the rise of the social giants has killed off much of this infrastructure, all but erasing it from our memories.
Anil Dash compares the services and tools available in the new centralized web, and the new advantages of centralization, and also the lost functionality that disappeared with independent blogging. It must be said that some of these tools were already in critical condition as centralization took off, killed by the spam and other parasitic infestations that are endemic to complex, open ecosystems.
Just wrote a script that printed out "Scott is a Neoreactionary" 10000 times. Now we shall finally find out what the platonic ideal form of rightwing-ness is.
You didn’t know?
Scott is already the most powerful Neoreactionary that has ever lived.
Even from within the tenth circle of the seventh star of the dark sun, chained in magical bindings by the Eight Scholars of Justice Eternal, pursued relentlessly by the Harbingers of Anti-Fate, his power leaks through into our world, disguised as “steelmanned” defenses of Liberalism.
Every word uttered in his true form converts ten children to the principles of sidereal nationalism. It is through only his whispers that the one known as Moldbug came to Awakeness. His mere gaze shatters all known forms of modernity.
He cannot stop, and he cannot be stopped.
It was the breaking of the fifth seal, causing parts of our world to come unmoored from Time, which allowed me to enter the past and spread my message of darkness.
we live in a world where you can claim that the field of computing is fundamentally broken because it rests on principles discovered by white men and you won’t get laughed off the stage
There are still places you will, it’s just that the list of those places is shrinking.
Of course, creating this environment has its costs, much like you’ll find in some Eastern European thoughts on Communism - once such a thing is enacted, the conversions against it are permanent.
Because “diversity” doesn’t mean what it’s usually made to mean.
This is not the diversity post I have been putting off writing, but it is adjacent to it.
no one actually cares about diversity of ideas when they say diversity, which just means “stable tribal representation”
Argumate, I demand we instantiate the maximum possible number of ethnic groups in order to maximize diversity. If we work hard at it, we can approach a distribution of N groups, each with their own language, practices, and styles of dress, where N is the size of the population, then get passed over for admission to Harvard.
Harvard University has been named in a complaint by a group of several
dozen Asian Americans claiming discrimination in the university
admissions process. They make the statistically justified claim that
Asians need higher grades and test scores to be admitted.
…
Yet despite the alleged injustice, more than 20 per cent of the students
admitted are Asian American, while Asian Americans make up only about 6
per cent of the US population. Since one can expect ability to be
evenly distributed across all ethnic groups, this looks less like
injustice than a problematical definition of “better-qualified”.
if your academic results don’t qualify you to get into Harvard, why should your Harvard results qualify you to get into anything else ya fuckin’ walnut
Just do it by socio-economic status and ignore race entirely. Insomuch as socioeconomic status is not distributed equally by race, this will alter your school’s incoming social balance.
But of course, you, thinking it’s about work times ability, are ignoring that the purpose of Harvard is to some degree about politics and connections, not advancing the national interest through maximizing graduating class economic potential.
In other words, just what is it that Harvard qualifies one to get in to? Perhaps not the same thing as MIT.
If a neurotypical asks you, “What game are you playing?” they’re not asking you to describe the game.
They’re asking you if they can play too.
If a neurotypical asks you, “What are you watching?” they’re not asking you to explain the plot of the movie/tv show to them.
They’re asking if they can watch it with you.
.
When neurotypicals ask you “What are you doing?”
What you think they’re asking: “Please explain to me what you are doing.”
What they’re actually asking: “Can I join you?”
Now here’s the really fucked up part. If you start explaining to them what you’re doing? They will interpret that as a rejection.
What you think you’re saying: [the answer to their question]
What they think you’re saying: This is an elite and exclusive activity for a level 5 friend and you are a level 1 acquaintance. You are not qualified to join me because you don’t know all this stuff. Go away.
.
This is why neurotypicals think you’re being cold and antisocial.
IT’S ALL A HORRIBLE MISCOMMUNICATION.
I didn’t realize, even thought it took me almost three decades to learn this, that this was such a paradigm changing realization until we had our conversation today.
But it really really is. One of the most bewildering realizations I’ve had is most people don’t talk to learn things unless its related to work or directly towards their own hobbies, all the words and questions are bonding questions if done socially. They are “lets make friends” questions.
So if I answer their question without an opportunity for the person asking the question to give a response or to join in somehow, the asker feels alienated and starts shutting down.
Example: what are you reading?
True answer but not what they’re looking for: Title of book
Best answer for social scenarios where I want to retain/create friendship: This book is about x and y but it has z that i know u have an interest in too.
Example: what are you doing?
True answer but not: drawing
Best answer for friends: I’m drawing but would u like company while I’m working?
And sometimes frankly I’m not in a headspace where I can process people so the answer is something like, “I would like to do something in a day or later, do you want to plan something?”
Tldr: communication is wierd
HOLY
SHIT
that explains so fucking much thank you
(why the fuck do neurotypicals never just day what they mean ie hey this show looks cool mind if I join you)
Further annoying?
They don’t realize that’s what they’re asking and they just feel rejected and go away. So you can’t even ask them what you did wrong because they can’t even put a finger on why they feel the way they do they just know you made them feel bad for some undefined reason.
They don’t want to impose or be a burden.
oh fuck me so that’s why when little me asked peeps what they were playing and whether I could watch, the answer was “nonya business” and “fuck off” for no reason i could fathom
they assumed i was intruding in their activity and its social circle
fuck my autistic ass finally all that random jerkassery makes sense
dude i just wanted to see how a game boy looked like
gdi nt’s would you please just say what you mean
you don’t ask the real question because you don’t trust me enough to give me the opportunity to say no, and when i answer the question you literally asked, you take that as ‘no’ and get upset
it’s really unfair
i think this is a case where allistics are the impaired ones
Basically my own reaction to suggestions like this.
