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July 2017

collapsedsquid:

Nobody must break @isaacsapphire‘s innocence by saying the reason why mecha manga/anime might have casts that are mostly women.

Women are lower mass (thus requiring less reactant/fuel) and have lower calorie requirements (less mass in food the ship has to carry), duh.

Jul 25, 2017 11 notes
#shtpost

gurtgetter:

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

There are only two genders: human and transhuman.

assigned human at birth, but determined to change that.

“I will die immortal.”
- Eliezer T. Yudkowsky, possibly, maybe (Rotterdam Timeline)

Jul 25, 2017 77 notes
#shtpost #this is a joke #chronofelony

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

There are only two genders: human and transhuman.

assigned human at birth, but determined to change that.

rationalist_tumblr.png

Jul 25, 2017 77 notes
#shtpost
whats wrong with apartheid

what’s right about it? If it were such a beneficial, sustainable and lauded system of civic management, you’d think it’d result in stability and mutual flourishment rather than misery and insurrection.

Jul 25, 2017 10 notes
#politics

There are only two genders: human and transhuman.

Jul 25, 2017 77 notes
#shtpost #gendpol

shacklesburst:

earthboundricochet:

@jellypumpkin @funereal-disease​​ so I don’t want to hijack the other thread completely but I gotta show you what I mean

These are some ads for it

This is one of their job ads

And here’s how their restaurants look like:

It’s hard to convey via just the photos just how hard they are trying to jam in as much 50s MURICA!!!! imagery and atmosphere as they can

like seriously

Bonus view from the outside:

Ok you might think, but what about the food?

well:

“Muricans like Hamburgers right? And they gotta be HYUGE”.

“They also like french fries. And big breakfasts. So french fries are for sure a breakfast meal in America. Trust me bro”.

“So we’re gonna make spaghetti too, but like, not normal spaghetti. We’re gonna make spaghetti like we think they make spaghetti like they think we make spaghetti, so you can have Italian spaghetti made to imitate American spaghetti which are made to imitate Italian spaghetti.”

“Speaking of pasta, know what else we should make? Mac and cheese! Muricans love Mac and cheese. Ditch the tiny maccheroni tho GOTTA GO BIG”

“Then you can end your meal with a nice milkshake for dessert!”

“…ok but I feel like this isn’t quite American enough. It must be bigger. It’s gotta have like 3000 more calories also. It is known that Americans thrive on like a 8000 daily calories diet”

“Ok so like a banana peanut butter milkshake with vanilla ice cream, oh and of course you pour liquid chocolate on the bottom of the glass before serving it”

“Much better!”

Bonus: it’s also a take-away and in some places you can get your food delivered by an Elvis cosplayer

The closest one is about a 6 hours 30 minutes drive from here …

… tomorrow’s a public holiday in Germany …

this is SO ADORABLE!

eeeeeee!

Jul 25, 2017 759 notes
I don't understand why people would threaten to never return to a store that is closing due to bankruptcy.

yes, this is a good Brexit analogy.

Jul 25, 2017 8 notes
#politics

mitigatedchaos:

Anime Girls (& boys, but mostly girls because we’re trying to sell manga here) of Rationalist/ Adjacent Tumblr

Discourse Suit Aries: Fires of Orion

@ranma-official: Argumentative girl thought to be flirting with protagonist in comedy filler episode 17, actually interested in protagonist’s love interest.  Side plot is dropped entirely once she becomes member of ship’s crew.

@isaacsapphire​: The ship’s no-nonsense mechanic.

@mitigatedchaos: Loyal officer of the season 1 main antagonist and mobile suit knightmare frame mech pilot.  Actually believes in main antagonist’s plans to bring about World Revolution, and the Hard Choices this requires.  Thought to have been defeated and killed by the protagonist ¾ through season 1, returns to investigate/fight the Mysterious Organization behind the World State in season 2.

@slartibartfastibast​: Ship’s lab-coated biologist.  Secretly working against the Mysterious Organization, as hinted in season 1.

@the-grey-tribe​: Ship’s engineer.  Keeps the protagonist’s Super Prototype Mech Discourse Suit functioning in between combat engagements.

@collapsedsquid​: Journalist investigating the true motives of the season 1 main antagonist, thought to have been killed by the Mysterious Organization near the end of season 1, but revealed to be alive in season 2.  

@kontextmaschine​: Esoteric ‘hipster’ gets little screen-time, revealed as former member of the Mysterious Organization currently in hiding in season 2, annoying viewers as an underwhelming use of foreshadowing in season 1.

@xhxhxhx​: Reasonable Authority Figure of World State District 11, origin point of the protagonist’s ship.

@wrathofgnon​: Even more war-hawkish general of the main antagonist.

@silver-and-ivory​: Handsome Mech Discourse Suit pilot from other battlegroup rescues protagonist twice in season 1, once in season 2.  A fan favorite but doesn’t get much screentime.

@theunitofcaring​: Peace activist focused on by plot but brushed aside by ludicrously destructive Discourse Suit war.  Finally achieves goal in end of season 2.

@yudkowsky: Thought to be the secret identity of the main antagonist, turns out to be just a philosopher in one of the space colonies.

@bambamramfan​: Additional philosopher on Earth.  Encountered by the protagonist in season 1 to impart some wisdom with a few other philosophers before departing.

@wirehead-wannabe​: Bridge bunny.  (Sorry.)

@slatestarscratchpad​: Another space colony philosopher.  Explains the goals of the Mysterious Organization in season 2 when Yudkowsky is found, but not actually a member of the Mysterious Organization.

@argumate: Generic owl-themed harem protagonist of the spin-off series.

[This article is incomplete.  You can help by expanding it.]

@mailadreapta Is a gruff father, and an honorable loyalist colonel of the season 1 main antagonist.  He is killed by a shady and corrupt member of the protagonist’s faction during the battle of Space Colony Alpha halfway through season 1, when the protagonist attempts to take him prisoner.

@thathopeyetlives is Col. Dreapta’s lieutenant, and somehow survives until the end of the second season, only to bravely die fighting alien invaders in the follow-up movie.

@brazenautomaton is the ship’s shy, stressed and anxious gynoid AI.  The sideplot to fix her permanently burned-in pessimistic Personality Template is sadly dropped during season 2 due to budget cuts. ( :< )

Jul 25, 2017 30 notes
#discourse suit aries
wait but why am i a fan favorite who saves the protagonist. this is inexplicable.

The very fact that you don’t understand why you’re a fan favorite that saves the protagonist in the middle of Discourse Suit combat is part of why you’re suitable for the part of fan favorite that saves the protagonist in the middle of Discourse Suit combat.  ☆ ★

Jul 25, 2017 6 notes
#discourse suit aries
wait but why am i a fan favorite who saves the protagonist. this is inexplicable.

The very fact that you don’t understand why you’re a fan favorite that saves the protagonist in the middle of Discourse Suit combat is part of why you’re suitable for the part of fan favorite that saves the protagonist in the middle of Discourse Suit combat.  ☆ ★

Jul 25, 2017 6 notes
#discourse suit aries #:)
The Six-Figure Price Tag for Selling a $2 Hot Dognytimes.com

manicgothicoctopi:

throw-away-opinions:

triggeredmedia:

He pays the city’s parks department $289,500 a year just for the right to operate his single cart there.

Without gov’t regulation who is going to charge someone over quarter million dollars to sell hot dogs?

When people talk about government hurting small businesses, this is exactly what they mean.

Small businesses are only hurt by their cruel owners/bosses the government has never and can never do anything wrong.

How much space in the parks and streets in the cities should be devoted to hot dog stands?  

This is not a trick or rhetorical question.  It says right there in the summary that they bid money to be allowed in Central Park.  You have to limit the number of vendors or it won’t be a park anymore, but a market.  Tragedy of the Commons and all that.

Jul 25, 2017 803 notes
#the invisible fist

theshitpostingwillnotbetelevised:

leftbook tankies are worse than Tumblr tankies ever have been

Does anyone else remember all those “but if people use their real names, they’ll be kind and not trolls” idiots?

Yeah.  It is as I and many of you predicted.

Jul 25, 2017 25 notes
Jul 25, 2017 8,970 notes
#Mitiは日本語を話します

ranma-official:

perkachow:

*uses my monster musume miia dakimakura as a whip in a pillow fight*

@zoobus

You know they actually made one that was, what, 37 feet long? And I think it sold out.

Jul 25, 2017 92 notes
but like. i am american. i live in america. my experiences with american cops have all been rather pleasant. its just... odd to see such discrepancy between my experiences and the experiences of others with the police.

Google suggests that there are some 1 million law enforcement personnel in the US, so even if only 10% were total assholes that’s still 100,000 assholes that you might never meet, depending on where you live and how they are distributed.

In practice the assholish behaviour is more likely to be structural than personal, making the distribution even less balanced; so you would expect that some people will meet only asshole cops and others would meet hardly any.

Jul 25, 2017 43 notes
#politics

collapsedsquid:

Eclipse Phase is weird because they chose to make a market socialist economy as one of the factions but then decided “I’m not sure about the rest of this market stuff, but I think what we really need is accumulation.  People using money to manage consumption or allocate resources is crap, the only use of money should be for individuals to exercise outsized control over the economy.“

I have mixed feelings about Eclipse Phase, including their RL gender politics policies on their forums, from what I’ve heard of them.

The good news is that Eclipse Phase is probably impossible.

Jul 25, 2017 9 notes

wirehead-wannabe:

Interestingly, informal men’s spaces seem to go for “a lack of people that we’ll be attracted to and/or that are off limits”, which tend to be inclusive of all men, plus less desirable women, Kinsey-6 lesbians, and women that are already taken and will remain so for the foreseeable future, so long as said women have masculine enough personalities to fit in.

Jul 25, 2017 14 notes
#gendpol
Why do we have to pay to educate them, which is a dubious proposition anyway, when we can just stop feeding them? We owe them nothing.

starving africans make baizou feel bad

Jul 24, 2017 14 notes
Look. I get that you get off on being "edgy" and "controversial". It's kind of your brand, you're a contrarian, and it excites you to be going against the grain. But the chaos were the best thing about the Sonic Adventure series and I take any attempt to mitigate them as a personal attack, so sleep with one eye open, binch.

Reality check, Anon-san: Sonic doesn’t exist.  There have never been any Sonic the Hedgehog games, there never will be any Sonic the Hedgehog games.  No matter how much fanart and how hard you desperately meme, you blighted furries will never make the Sonic franchise a set of real video games.  

Jul 24, 2017 5 notes
#augmented reality break #shtpost #chronofelony
so am I basically Marvin the Paranoid Android

Yes, but in anime girl form.  Because anime.

Jul 24, 2017 4 notes
#brazenautomaton #discourse suit aries
Corbyn tried to pass law to make homes safe last year – the Conservatives rejected itthelondoneconomic.com

xhxhxhx:

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

voxette-vk:

happinessisnotalwaysfun:

the-purity-of-nude-socialism:

“Jeremy Corbyn tried to pass through a law that would required private landlords to make their homes safe and “fit for human habitation” last year – but it was rejected by the Conservatives.

Labour proposed an amendment to the Government’s new Housing and Planning Bill – a raft of new laws aimed at reforming housing law – in January last year, but it was rejected by 312 votes to 219.

According to Parliament’s register of interests, 72 of the MPs who voted against the amendment were themselves landlords who derive an income from a property.”

Whatever you think about the man as an individual or politician, he sure is on the right side of history a lot.

More regulations driving up the cost of housing <—-> Right side of history

the regulation about not cladding the outside of high rise buildings in flammable material tho

having sufficient fire escapes

for that matter fire alarms

very poor choice of example of regulatory harm

I’m sure our dear Voxette wouldn’t mind losing the regulations in favor of requiring all landlords to carry insurance against the death or debilitating injury to occupants with a cap at $1 million per occupant, reflecting the cost to the rest of society of people dying in unsafe housing. After all, it would be terribly immoral to give the landlords a subsidy, right?

They will of course also be required to carry sufficient insurance for neighboring buildings. It wouldn’t be very fair if they got away with a huge fire burning down someone else’s property just because they were bankrupt.

Right, and the insurance company needs to prove that it can actually cover these policies, which requires them to inspect the properties and regulate their safety, such as not covering the exterior with fuckin’ inflammable cladding.

You’re going to get regulation one way or another.

The Landlord and Tenant Act 1985, section 8, required landlords to guarantee that their homes were fit for human habitation, but only where rents were £80 or less (in London) or £52 or less (elsewhere). Jeremy Corbyn wanted to eliminate the cap.

But I’m not sure that the property in question would be “unfit” under the Landlord and Tenant Act. Section 10 indicates that the standard for “fitness for human habitation” is determined in respect of enumerated matters. Houses are regarded as unfit for human habitation if and only if they are defective in one or more of the enumerated matters:

In determining for the purposes of this Act whether a house is unfit for human habitation, regard shall be had to its condition in respect of the following matters—

  • repair,
  • stability,
  • freedom from damp,
  • internal arrangement,
  • natural lighting,
  • ventilation,
  • water supply,
  • drainage and sanitary conveniences,
  • facilities for preparation and cooking of food and for the disposal of waste water;

and the house shall be regarded as unfit for human habitation if, and only if, it is so far defective in one or more of those matters that it is not reasonably suitable for occupation in that condition.

If the house is not defective in one or more of these enumerated matters, the house cannot be condemned as unfit for human habitation. “Flammability” is not on this list. Nor is “hazard to human life.” It isn’t clear that the enumerated matters include anything that would have condemned this residence: If the residence was constructed with flammable materials, there was no defect of “repair.” If the residence was stable, there was no defect of “stability.”

If “repair” or “stability” under section 10 include fire hazards, then there are few principled reasons why the landlords should not also be caught under section 11 of the Landlord and Tenant Act, which is unaffected by inflation, which requires short-term lessors undertake to:

(a) to keep in repair the structure and exterior of the dwelling-house (including drains, gutters and external pipes),

(b) to keep in repair and proper working order the installations in the dwelling-house for the supply of water, gas and electricity and for sanitation (including basins, sinks, baths and sanitary conveniences, but not other fixtures, fittings and appliances for making use of the supply of water, gas or electricity), and

© to keep in repair and proper working order the installations in the dwelling-house for space heating and heating water.

If “repair” or “stability” include flammability, then the housing here should be condemned because it had failed to “repair the structure and exterior of the dwelling-house”.

The language of section 10 is less impressive. There is no declaration that the house is “unfit for human habitation” if the landlord fails to abide by section 11. But no one has any statutory authority to condemn the house in section 10, either. The Landlord and Tenant Act didn’t empower anyone to go around condemning houses or forbidding sales.

All it did was this:

In a contract to which this section applies for the letting of a house for human habitation there is implied, notwithstanding any stipulation to the contrary—

(a) a condition that the house is fit for human habitation at the commencement of the tenancy, and

(b) an undertaking that the house will be kept by the landlord fit for human habitation during the tenancy.

If the landlord failed to comply with section 10, he was in breach of a statutory and contractual duty. There might be some action for damages or specific performance. There might be some action for negligence if house caught flame. Do you know what else would be grounds for such a suit? If the landlord failed to keep the property in good repair.

But those actions would lie with the landlords and tenants, who have the contract, not with any public authority. You can’t sue to enforce a contract you’re not privy to. The Landlord and Tenant Act doesn’t grant any statutory authority to prevent any sale or lease from happening. It doesn’t even have an inspection regime.

Do you know what does have an inspections regime? The Housing Act 1985. In section 604, the Housing Act includes the very same language that was included in the Landlord and Tenant Act:

The difference was that section 10 of the Landlord and Tenant Act created an implied covenant between landlords and tenants. Section 604 of the Housing Act set the terms by which local housing authorities could condemn houses as unfit for human habitation, which they were empowered to do by section 606:

This was the public regulation regime to complement the private regulation under the Landlord and Tenant Act. But if you look for sections 604 and 606 in the Housing Act 2004, you won’t find them. If you look for “unfit for human habitation”, you won’t find it anywhere. Why? Because sections 604 and 606 were replaced by a regime that covered fire safety.

The House of Commons Library explains:

The ‘old’ Housing Fitness Standard 

Prior to the introduction of the HHSRS housing fitness was governed by section 604 of the 1985 Housing Act. Section 604 embodied a pass or fail test of housing fitness based on similar considerations to those set out in section 10 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985. Where a local authority identified a property as unfit it had a duty to take action; it was left to the authority to decide upon the most appropriate course of action. A number of problems were identified with the Housing Fitness Standard. Some of the most serious health and safety hazards, including fire hazards and fall hazards, were not covered by the standard. In addition, it was seen by some as a blunt instrument that could only pass or fail a house, and therefore sometimes did not distinguish between defective dwellings and genuine health and safety hazards.

So there we have our answer: the amendment wouldn’t have covered flammability, wouldn’t have prevented rentals, wouldn’t have been enforceable by statutory authorities, and wouldn’t have empowered an inspection or sanctions regime. It wouldn’t have granted anything but a private right of action, which they should have had anyways. 

The United Kingdom already has statutory authorities empowered to inspect houses for safety – the local housing authorities empowered by the Housing Act 2004 and the Housing Health and Safety Rating System (England) Regulations 2005 to inspect and condemn houses where “exposure to uncontrolled fire” (reg. 3(1)(24)) might result in “death from any cause” (reg. 2(1)(a)). Under section 5 of the Housing Act 2004, local housing authorities had a duty to take action.

It seems the fault here lies with the Housing Act regulators, not the unamended Landlord and Tenant Act 1985.

Jul 24, 2017 315 notes
#thx xhxhxhx

ranma-official:

blackblocberniebros:

papa-problems:

blackblocberniebros:

eggcup:

concept of a thieves guild: cool

reality of a thieves guild: tumblr shoplifting fandom 

This post is just petty-bourgeois whining about how real rebellion is dirty and morally implicating and doesn’t live up to the romantic fantasies they had about it.

Long live the lifting fandom.

actively harming workers by stealing from sephora as communist praxis

“Actively harming”

Nice wildly misleading language you got there, where’d you learn it, the cop store?

Workers are tasked with preventing theft

If you steal shit, it’s docked from their pay or they get fired

Jul 24, 2017 48,482 notes

collapsedsquid:

poipoipoi-2016:

collapsedsquid:

poipoipoi-2016:

collapsedsquid:

poipoipoi-2016:

collapsedsquid:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

None of them are serious, but one thing that might make them serious apart from worsening demographic crisis is some sort of artificial gestation.  Carrying a child right now is a deeply personal act, if you had this then technology then it might not be.  Would that change things? 

You’re right though, it sort of sits awkwardly with the ideas of the liberal state where we’re all individuals.  If you’re going to bring people into existence as an act of policy, then I think you either need some sort of strong commitment to welfare of said people or some sort of greater cause that both the people and the state are in service to in order to make the system have legitimacy.  If a state literally raises a generation and then there is no job for them, then “personal responsibility“ doesn’t really cut it.

At this point though, I’m not convinced either way on whether boring welfare state solutions like child benefits and universal child care wouldn’t solve the problem though.  Those don’t require a fundamental re-orientation of the relationship between a citizen and the state and can be done in a theoretically liberal way, but they do require things we seem to be unable to do right now.

You need to be run by Republicans. I’m not joking.

Because Republicans have policies that create affordable families, and Democrats don’t.

Uhh, policy ideas like child benefits, paid higher education, providing healthcare for minors, paid family leave?

Republicans have affordable housing.  Which means you can have that third/fourth bedroom, that short commute, and extra money left for the extra food.  

Also, Republicans have early and long-running marriages.  (The direction of causation I leave to you)

The demographic transition is a world-wide phenomenon of developed countries, not a peculiarity caused by US home prices.

Fair enough. 

But the hardest causation in American politics is the amount of time that white women* spend married to Republican vote share.  And Red states do have notably higher fertility.  (Not, you know, African levels, but 2.3 vs. 1.8).  

* I mean, it might also be true for minorities, but when that flips the black vote from 85% to 95%…

What that is saying is that the demographic transition has not yet totally sweeped the US.

The US is actually less developed in some ways. This messes with the healthcare prices.

Jul 24, 2017 30 notes

What if all alt-right use of the word cuck as an insult is an attempt to have the left take up cucking themselves in response and meme themselves into extinction.

Jul 24, 2017 5 notes
#shtpost #tinfoil hat corner

Well I thought it was funny to imagine you all as Discourse Suit pilots. Ah, well. But don’t worry. Once my visual respresentation software is complete, it will be able to represent any network of partisan/ideological prosthesis as a mech, and I can use neural nets trained on hundreds of thousands of anime characters to generate a true rattumb mecha anime.

Jul 24, 2017 5 notes
#shtpost

the-grey-tribe:

mitigatedchaos:

the-grey-tribe:

I have seen exclamations like “I bet he does not even have one gay/black/jewish“ friend, used as some kind of bait, to make the target say the unfortunate words.

That’s when to either go meta, attack along another vector of the same topic (“oh, so the only real gay people are the ones that already agree with you?”) or flip the switch and start shitposting about how you are friends with literally every Jew on Earth, including the questioner.

“I can’t be racist, I have Jewish enemies!”

“Some of my best friends are homophobic!”

“I asked a racist and he hates it, so it must be woke.”

“Oh, so you’re saying that minorities only count if they agree with you, otherwise they’re not people?  You know who else thought that?  HITLER.  Get the fuck out of this fucking building, you racist piece of sht!”

I guarantee they will not see that coming.  Once you’ve stunlocked them, start using other Discourse moves…

Jul 24, 2017 43 notes
#shtpost

Anime Girls (& boys, but mostly girls because we’re trying to sell manga here) of Rationalist/ Adjacent Tumblr

Discourse Suit Aries: Fires of Orion

@ranma-official: Argumentative girl thought to be flirting with protagonist in comedy filler episode 17, actually interested in protagonist’s love interest.  Side plot is dropped entirely once she becomes member of ship’s crew.

@isaacsapphire​: The ship’s no-nonsense mechanic.

@mitigatedchaos: Loyal officer of the season 1 main antagonist and mobile suit knightmare frame mech pilot.  Actually believes in main antagonist’s plans to bring about World Revolution, and the Hard Choices this requires.  Thought to have been defeated and killed by the protagonist ¾ through season 1, returns to investigate/fight the Mysterious Organization behind the World State in season 2.

@slartibartfastibast​: Ship’s lab-coated biologist.  Secretly working against the Mysterious Organization, as hinted in season 1.

@the-grey-tribe​: Ship’s engineer.  Keeps the protagonist’s Super Prototype Mech Discourse Suit functioning in between combat engagements.

@collapsedsquid​: Journalist investigating the true motives of the season 1 main antagonist, thought to have been killed by the Mysterious Organization near the end of season 1, but revealed to be alive in season 2.  

@kontextmaschine​: Esoteric ‘hipster’ gets little screen-time, revealed as former member of the Mysterious Organization currently in hiding in season 2, annoying viewers as an underwhelming use of foreshadowing in season 1.

@xhxhxhx​: Reasonable Authority Figure of World State District 11, origin point of the protagonist’s ship.

@wrathofgnon​: Even more war-hawkish general of the main antagonist.

@silver-and-ivory​: Handsome Mech Discourse Suit pilot from other battlegroup rescues protagonist twice in season 1, once in season 2.  A fan favorite but doesn’t get much screentime.

@theunitofcaring​: Peace activist focused on by plot but brushed aside by ludicrously destructive Discourse Suit war.  Finally achieves goal in end of season 2.

@yudkowsky: Thought to be the secret identity of the main antagonist, turns out to be just a philosopher in one of the space colonies.

@bambamramfan​: Additional philosopher on Earth.  Encountered by the protagonist in season 1 to impart some wisdom with a few other philosophers before departing.

@wirehead-wannabe​: Bridge bunny.  (Sorry.)

@slatestarscratchpad​: Another space colony philosopher.  Explains the goals of the Mysterious Organization in season 2 when Yudkowsky is found, but not actually a member of the Mysterious Organization.

@argumate: Generic owl-themed harem protagonist of the spin-off series.

[This article is incomplete.  You can help by expanding it.]

Jul 24, 2017 30 notes
#shtpost #this is a joke #dont take this seriously #discourse suit aries

sadoeconomist:

mutant-aesthetic:

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

Screaming ‘that’s racist!’ whenever anyone mentions it seems to be how they deal with a lot of issues

For the left, environmentalism is just thinly disguised anti-capitalism, and for the globalist elite, environmentalism is about creating a world state. Actually trying to protect the biosphere from potential threats is not something anyone in politics is really sincerely concerned with - kind of a frightening thought

I don’t know that high population growth is necessarily such a terrible thing, though, having more people in the world has a lot of positives to it that usually winds up outweighing the negatives, even for impoverished Africans. Most of the time the people who are concerned with population growth have a skewed zero-sum view of the economy that only lets them see more people as more mouths to feed, but especially in the future that won’t be the right way to look at it

Setting aside that not everyone wants to live in Coruscant, that depends enormously on energy prices, and I’m not optimistic about medium-long-term energy prices.

Much less a bunch of chronically malnourished people don’t give you as many of the benefits of high population.  There’s a lot of argument about the heritability of intelligence, but it’s less controversial that it isn’t that hard to damage intelligence development with environmental factors.

Jul 24, 2017 91 notes
#alison dont read

squareallworthy:

mitigatedchaos:

mutant-aesthetic:

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

The plan is to migrate them all here, because developed nations have infinite money and structural reinforcement.  Or there is no plan.  Just cross your fingers and hope it all works out.

Hitler is the Satan figure of modern progressivism/liberalism.  Anything that even has the slightest whiff of something he might maybe have once possibly considered doing for a few seconds is tainted by association.  On top of that, there have been previous racist actions in the developed nations.  On top of that, it has been decided that the majority whites of the developed nations bear the original sin for racism.

Telling people to have fewer kids is worth celebrating by progressivism, but only if you’re telling white people.  Telling anyone else is vile racism.  (Even, of course, if it would lead to terrible conditions in majority-PoC countries.)

For the progressives that actually notice that you can only consume what is produced, and that while the wealthy have a pretty good-sized amount of money it isn’t anywhere near unlimited, embracing any discouragement of population growth is considered too dangerous, a slippery slope to eugenics and baby licenses.

…even to the ones that “jokingly” suggested swapping everyone’s babies to end “genetic chauvinism”, I would imagine.

Of course the Conservatives keep trying to kill abortion in those areas with their controls on American government aid funding, so mostly they don’t really care, either.  Catholics I’ve encountered seem to believe that God Will Provide or something, one of them talking about the Earth supporting a potential population of 100 billion.

Only a few villains see this as an issue, like you, me, and Emmanuel Macron.

I believe the progressive line on this is “education and improved public health lower the birth rate.” And it’s also the neoliberal line and not too far removed from the libertarian line.

@squareallworthy‘s reading is probably a fairer one, and it’s what they’re hoping for with the crossed fingers.

@mutant-aesthetic

To add on, it should be noted that the birthrate is falling there, even if it’s still crazy high and may end up exceeding the carrying capacity anyway.  World population is forecasted to stop growing somewhere at something like 9-11 billion.

Jul 24, 2017 91 notes
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crazyeddieme:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

They very people who are capable of solving this problem (and most of our other big problems) are the ones disappearing.  We’re fucked.

The IQ bleedoff is slow.  We just have to make it another 20-30 years for genetic engineering, which China and Korea will pursue even if we don’t.

Jul 24, 2017 30 notes

mutant-aesthetic:

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

The plan is to migrate them all here, because developed nations have infinite money and structural reinforcement.  Or there is no plan.  Just cross your fingers and hope it all works out.

Hitler is the Satan figure of modern progressivism/liberalism.  Anything that even has the slightest whiff of something he might maybe have once possibly considered doing for a few seconds is tainted by association.  On top of that, there have been previous racist actions in the developed nations.  On top of that, it has been decided that the majority whites of the developed nations bear the original sin for racism.

Telling people to have fewer kids is worth celebrating by progressivism, but only if you’re telling white people.  Telling anyone else is vile racism.  (Even, of course, if it would lead to terrible conditions in majority-PoC countries.)

For the progressives that actually notice that you can only consume what is produced, and that while the wealthy have a pretty good-sized amount of money it isn’t anywhere near unlimited, embracing any discouragement of population growth is considered too dangerous, a slippery slope to eugenics and baby licenses.

…even to the ones that “jokingly” suggested swapping everyone’s babies to end “genetic chauvinism”, I would imagine.

Of course the Conservatives keep trying to kill abortion in those areas with their controls on American government aid funding, so mostly they don’t really care, either.  Catholics I’ve encountered seem to believe that God Will Provide or something, one of them talking about the Earth supporting a potential population of 100 billion.

Only a few villains see this as an issue, like you, me, and Emmanuel Macron.

Jul 24, 2017 91 notes
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quasi-normalcy:

The thing is that political correctness, in the sense of an orthodoxy that exists in terms of what opinions you can express without ostracism in a community (particularly a progressive community), is a very real phenomenon, and can be quite pernicious. But in the sense that it is generally used by conservatives at present, it is basically a catch-all snarlword for anything that they disagree with, but especially for oppressed groups standing up for their rights. And it is used so much more frequently in the latter context that I question its usefulness in the former.

Pretty much every potentially weaponizable political term gets turned into a snarl. Not sure if it’s because it gets into the hands of dumb yellers, or if it’s just always that tempting.

Jul 24, 2017 46 notes

mitigatedchaos:

kissingerandpals:

I know we want the same things so why does it have to be so hard

Humanity evolved in an environment of total war. We aren’t yet over the sort of species-wide trauma that induces.

and like that probably sounds trite or whatever, but there are many layers to this. if we ever find a perfectly peaceful species, with no sense of tribalism, it means that species was engineered. almost any species capable of space flight will have to be social and omnivorous.

Jul 24, 2017 11 notes

kissingerandpals:

I know we want the same things so why does it have to be so hard

Humanity evolved in an environment of total war. We aren’t yet over the sort of species-wide trauma that induces.

Jul 24, 2017 11 notes

collapsedsquid:

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

Jul 24, 2017 30 notes
#politics

I will say, rattumb migrationists have the virtue to believe that gentrification, too, is a necessary tradeoff in favor of freedom of movement/commerce, and thus are more ideologically consistent than a number of left politicals.

And therefore we don’t get the double-bind where the ethnic majority either leaving or entering the city is considered problematic in both directions at once, acting as a cover for what are actually class concerns.  (And also rattumb has greater awareness of what might actually sort out housing prices.)

Jul 24, 2017 1 note
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argumate:

dietmountainmadewka:

the-bookish-dark:

one of the funniest things about the “kids are exposed to too much violence nowadays” arguments

is that people literally used to be executed in the town square and entire families would go out to watch these people be killed and it was a huge event and people thought it was great fun

joke: kids are exposed to too much violence

woke: kids arent exposed to enough violence

toke: the violence that kids used to be exposed to was aimed at building social cohesion and community spirit, whereas the violence of today’s mass media is premised on nihilistic individualism

I feel a bit uneasy about that hot take there Argumate, but I think you just passed the Ideological Turing Test for WrathOfGnon.

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argumate:

quasi-normalcy:

argumate:

argumate:

argumate:

A good example of political correctness is the party line on Joss Whedon shifting over time.

One can try and stay ahead of the curve, hence the stern admonitions about the new Doctor Who being problematic because the lady is white.

But one can be politically incorrect by being too far ahead of the curve; much like trading the market one must be careful not to be too early or too late.

The trick is to never show enthusiasm for anything until you know whether it is problematic or not.

And be prepared to instantly disavow or recontextualise past opinions every time the winds shift; for this is in fact what political correctness means.

Political Correctness Limit Hypothesis: For any given item X, the odds of being declared problematic approach 1 as the time t goes to infinity.

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earnest-peer:

mitigatedchaos:

mutant-aesthetic:

mitigatedchaos:

I have it on good authority that not wanting me is an act of oppression.

If only Eliot Rodgers had waited a few years…

I’m sorry, but unlike me, he was a member of [OTHER GROUP] and I am a member of [CORRECT GROUP], therefore for him to want anyone is an act of oppression.

(Although more seriously that guy was fucked up.  Don’t huff Incelthought, kids.  You’ll go mad and blind.)

Didn’t the incels actually tell him off? At least some manosphere people did, asI recall.

Someone did.  He was unsurprisingly accused of being an MRA or something along those lines, but of course all the MRAs thought he was nuts.  There was some other group, but I don’t think it was incels.

Jul 23, 2017 8 notes
#gendpol

We are still in the past right now, so our actions will still have more impact in the future.

Jul 23, 2017 4 notes
Why do you think people give Scientology so much more flack it seems than other religions? It seems strange to me considering Scientologists havent done any of the kind of atrocities traditional religions have in the past and even in the present with the Catholic Church having mass pedophile rings

It’s probably a ratio thing, where they’re smaller in scale but higher concentration of crazy, plus of course old cults are grandfathered in.

Jul 23, 2017 14 notes
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it ensures that your asks match population demographics and automatically correct any accidental unWoke terminology

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earlgraytay:

dubvictor:

marsixm:

teapotsubtext:

aawb:

comrade-lecter:

aawb:

hey some advice for young girls is don’t trust men. they know. they know what they do.

Don’t trust whom? Stephen Hawking, Prince Harry, your younger brother? Your friend who knew you since childhood? Elton John? Your grandpa?
There is no such thing as men in general when it comes to social interaction.

lmao this is my favorite response

don’t trust prince harry

stephen hawking and prince harry teamed up to kill my grandpa so jot that down

guys op is a terf :/

(OK so @dubvictor let me know if you want me to delete this/are getting shit over the post and just want it gone. Also I’m sorry in advance, this turned into a bit of a novel.)

this. this is the reason that I say ‘casual man hate is bad, actually’; this is the reason I say “we really should not be making fun of people for things they can’t help, even if the things they can’t help are things that make them privileged”. it’s not because I’m a squishy moderate who thinks it would be nice if everyone was nice. it’s because this stuff directly hurts vulnerable people.

you ever notice how these ‘funny’, ‘relatable’ man-hate posts keep going around, right, and they get a thousand notes or so, and then someone notices, ‘hey, OP is a terf’. And everyone stops and goes oh because they realise, ‘hey, OP doesn’t actually mean men.’ 

…if you have a category of people that are Acceptable Targets- a group of people you can performatively hate, no matter what, to the point where you can advocate for their genocide and people will understand it’s ‘just’ a joke- asshats will go to whatever lengths they can to equate the people they hate with Acceptable Targets. 

TERFs try to make trans women look like men, because for a lot of feminists, men are an Acceptable Target. ableist feminists try to write off their discomfort with ‘creepy’ autistic behaviour* by saying it’s ‘male-coded’ or ‘masculine’, because men are an Acceptable Target. racist feminists talk about thugs and racially-charged Stranger Danger stereotypes, and then they expect you not to call them on their shit because- you guessed it- men are an Acceptable Target. 

and yes, trans women are women, trans women are not men, equating the two is wrong. but, like… just because they’re ‘not men’ in the abstract doesn’t mean they can’t get hurt by stuff that is directly aimed at them. on top of that,  there are people who are men- who are also lgbt+, or disabled, or poc- who get hit with the splash damage.  if you’re already told all day every day by the media and the people around you that you’re a terrible person who’s not to be trusted, how do you think it feels coming from a place that’s supposed to be ‘safe’?   

when you say ‘it’s okay to make fun of this group of people for a thing they didn’t choose to be, because the thing they didn’t choose makes them privileged’, what you’re effectively saying is 'it’s okay if there’s Acceptable Targets, as long as they’re not people like me.’ whether or not you intend to, you’re giving carte blanche to the people who want an Acceptable Target so they can keep being bigoted in a socially acceptable fashion.   

*I’m talking about, like, infodumping, not stalking. a lot of sexist creepy men will try to do the exact same thing in reverse and go “b-but i have a disability :( why are you being ableist :(”. and i’m not defending them, either. 

Jul 23, 2017 3,386 notes
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ranma-official:

nentindo:

wouldn’t the internet, a digital network designed with the sole purpose of sharing information more conveniently and accessibly, completely invalidate the basic premise of Fahrenheit 451??

the whole story is fucking pointless if it includes the ultimate plethora of knowledge and information, which’ll probably be government supplied

No, but it would necessitate a tonal shift.

Unusually for sci-fi, Ray Bradbury is a bit of a technophobe, and the real intended moral of the book is very, very close to boomer cartoons about youths on their cellumaphones, except about television.

The destruction of books was possible because people en masse did not even care any more.

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mutant-aesthetic:

mitigatedchaos:

I have it on good authority that not wanting me is an act of oppression.

If only Eliot Rodgers had waited a few years…

I’m sorry, but unlike me, he was a member of [OTHER GROUP] and I am a member of [CORRECT GROUP], therefore for him to want anyone is an act of oppression.

(Although more seriously that guy was fucked up.  Don’t huff Incelthought, kids.  You’ll go mad and blind.)

Jul 23, 2017 8 notes
#gendpol

I have it on good authority that not wanting me is an act of oppression.

Jul 23, 2017 8 notes
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