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August 2017

...what

Oh, honey…

Aug 10, 2017 3 notes
#shtpost #anons #asks

phoneus:

Congratulations! In an effort to be interesting and unique, you have rendered yourself as boring and predictable as possible — how do you plead? Hey stop photoshopping vaporwave succ memes for a second and listen to me

No.

Aug 10, 2017 604 notes
#shtpost

While we’re at it, people need to quit trying to re-awaken white racial consciousness. You think you’re going to kill it, but you aren’t going to tame it this time, either. Let it fucking sleep.

Aug 10, 2017 5 notes
#grumpy #uncharitable #politics
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#gendpol #uncharitable
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argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

The year is 2033…

Under the direction of the Australian Environmental Working Group, an army of thousands of killer snakebots, created by the Omega Corporation, has been unleashed to eliminate cane toads from the continent.  No one thought it could go wrong.

Now the killer snakebots have been hijacked by a vicious terrorist group, and only one man can stop them…  the man that created them.

As long as you use an expansive definition of the term ‘man’.

Mechanical Dingo Pictures presents

Owlback II: Revengeance

( @argumate )

you know in Australia we make fun of you

well yes of course, Australia is the upside-down country so of course you would

well i mean arguably owls are not a kind of man, programmer or not, so it is necessary to spell out the use of an expansive definition of “man” in order to make affordances for all my Pedant-American readers

Aug 9, 2017 19 notes

argumate:

forget forever young, why not forever middle aged

replacing your body every 40 years with a new vatgrown one as subsidized by the government, but being unable to afford all the little enhancements and corrective robotic surgeries that keeping it looking young for 30 years, because there is still market segmentation

Aug 9, 2017 38 notes
#mitigated future

The year is 2033…

Under the direction of the Australian Environmental Working Group, an army of thousands of killer snakebots, created by the Omega Corporation, has been unleashed to eliminate cane toads from the continent.  No one thought it could go wrong.

Now the killer snakebots have been hijacked by a vicious terrorist group, and only one man can stop them…  the man that created them.

As long as you use an expansive definition of the term ‘man’.

Mechanical Dingo Pictures presents

Owlback II: Revengeance

( @argumate )

Aug 9, 2017 19 notes
#mitigated fiction #argumate #shtpost #augmented reality break #the year is
As social media centralized, blogging's core infrastructure has withered #1yrago

discoursedrome:

argumate:

mostlysignssomeportents:


When “social media” meant “blogs,” there were many tools, services and protocols that comprised an infrastructure for federated, open, loosely joined interaction: the rise of the social giants has killed off much of this infrastructure, all but erasing it from our memories.

Anil Dash compares the services and tools available in the new centralized web, and the new advantages of centralization, and also the lost functionality that disappeared with independent blogging. It must be said that some of these tools were already in critical condition as centralization took off, killed by the spam and other parasitic infestations that are endemic to complex, open ecosystems.

https://boingboing.net/2016/08/11/as-social-media-centralized-b.html

winner takes all

unpopular opinion: people need to stop using Discord chats and get back on IRC

IRC, which won’t give me the records of all that chatting that occurred when my phone bounced online and offline twenty times in the last hour?

We don’t access the internet only from our desktop computers anymore, you know.

Aug 9, 2017 56 notes
Just wrote a script that printed out "Scott is a Neoreactionary" 10000 times. Now we shall finally find out what the platonic ideal form of rightwing-ness is.

You didn’t know?

Scott is already the most powerful Neoreactionary that has ever lived.  

Even from within the tenth circle of the seventh star of the dark sun, chained in magical bindings by the Eight Scholars of Justice Eternal, pursued relentlessly by the Harbingers of Anti-Fate, his power leaks through into our world, disguised as “steelmanned” defenses of Liberalism.

Every word uttered in his true form converts ten children to the principles of sidereal nationalism.  It is through only his whispers that the one known as Moldbug came to Awakeness.  His mere gaze shatters all known forms of modernity.

He cannot stop, and he cannot be stopped.

It was the breaking of the fifth seal, causing parts of our world to come unmoored from Time, which allowed me to enter the past and spread my message of darkness.

Aug 9, 2017 5 notes
#shtpost #politics #the rationalists #chronofelony #augmented reality break #anons #asks

argumate:

we live in a world where you can claim that the field of computing is fundamentally broken because it rests on principles discovered by white men and you won’t get laughed off the stage

There are still places you will, it’s just that the list of those places is shrinking.

Of course, creating this environment has its costs, much like you’ll find in some Eastern European thoughts on Communism - once such a thing is enacted, the conversions against it are permanent.

Aug 9, 2017 18 notes
Fractal Diversitybalioc.wordpress.com

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

balioc:

Because “diversity” doesn’t mean what it’s usually made to mean.

This is not the diversity post I have been putting off writing, but it is adjacent to it.

no one actually cares about diversity of ideas when they say diversity, which just means “stable tribal representation”

Argumate, I demand we instantiate the maximum possible number of ethnic groups in order to maximize diversity.  If we work hard at it, we can approach a distribution of N groups, each with their own language, practices, and styles of dress, where N is the size of the population, then get passed over for admission to Harvard.

Aug 9, 2017 100 notes
#shtpost

argumate:

Harvard University has been named in a complaint by a group of several dozen Asian Americans claiming discrimination in the university admissions process. They make the statistically justified claim that Asians need higher grades and test scores to be admitted.

…

Yet despite the alleged injustice, more than 20 per cent of the students admitted are Asian American, while Asian Americans make up only about 6 per cent of the US population. Since one can expect ability to be evenly distributed across all ethnic groups, this looks less like injustice than a problematical definition of “better-qualified”.

http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2106030/why-asian-americans-claim-harvard-admissions-bias-misses

if your academic results don’t qualify you to get into Harvard, why should your Harvard results qualify you to get into anything else ya fuckin’ walnut

Just do it by socio-economic status and ignore race entirely.  Insomuch as socioeconomic status is not distributed equally by race, this will alter your school’s incoming social balance.

But of course, you, thinking it’s about work times ability, are ignoring that the purpose of Harvard is to some degree about politics and connections, not advancing the national interest through maximizing graduating class economic potential.

In other words, just what is it that Harvard qualifies one to get in to?  Perhaps not the same thing as MIT.

Aug 9, 2017 17 notes
#racepol
Fractal Diversitybalioc.wordpress.com

balioc:

Because “diversity” doesn’t mean what it’s usually made to mean.

This is not the diversity post I have been putting off writing, but it is adjacent to it.

Aug 9, 2017 100 notes
#politics #gendpol
Soldier carried cyberweapons were used to successfully stop a tank assault | NextBigFuture.comnextbigfuture.com
Aug 9, 2017 4 notes
To my friends on the spectrum, let me explain to you an unspoken social rule that possibly nobody has ever explained to you before

nuclearspaceheater:

jumpingjacktrash:

elanorpam:

notyourexrotic:

bonehandledknife:

survivablyso:

bonehandledknife:

lierdumoa:

If a neurotypical asks you, “What game are you playing?” they’re not asking you to describe the game.

They’re asking you if they can play too.

If a neurotypical asks you, “What are you watching?” they’re not asking you to explain the plot of the movie/tv show to them.

They’re asking if they can watch it with you.

.

When neurotypicals ask you “What are you doing?” 

  • What you think they’re asking: “Please explain to me what you are doing.” 
  • What they’re actually asking:  “Can I join you?”

Now here’s the really fucked up part. If you start explaining to them what you’re doing? They will interpret that as a rejection. 

  • What you think you’re saying: [the answer to their question]
  • What they think you’re saying: This is an elite and exclusive activity for a level 5 friend and you are a level 1 acquaintance. You are not qualified to join me because you don’t know all this stuff. Go away.

.

This is why neurotypicals think you’re being cold and antisocial.

IT’S ALL A HORRIBLE MISCOMMUNICATION.

I didn’t realize, even thought it took me almost three decades to learn this, that this was such a paradigm changing realization until we had our conversation today.

But it really really is. One of the most bewildering realizations I’ve had is most people don’t talk to learn things unless its related to work or directly towards their own hobbies, all the words and questions are bonding questions if done socially. They are “lets make friends” questions.

So if I answer their question without an opportunity for the person asking the question to give a response or to join in somehow, the asker feels alienated and starts shutting down.

Example: what are you reading?

True answer but not what they’re looking for: Title of book

Best answer for social scenarios where I want to retain/create friendship: This book is about x and y but it has z that i know u have an interest in too.


Example: what are you doing?

True answer but not: drawing

Best answer for friends: I’m drawing but would u like company while I’m working?


And sometimes frankly I’m not in a headspace where I can process people so the answer is something like, “I would like to do something in a day or later, do you want to plan something?”

Tldr: communication is wierd

HOLY

SHIT

that explains so fucking much thank you

(why the fuck do neurotypicals never just day what they mean ie hey this show looks cool mind if I join you)

Further annoying?

They don’t realize that’s what they’re asking and they just feel rejected and go away. So you can’t even ask them what you did wrong because they can’t even put a finger on why they feel the way they do they just know you made them feel bad for some undefined reason.

They don’t want to impose or be a burden.

oh fuck me so that’s why when little me asked peeps what they were playing and whether I could watch, the answer was “nonya business” and “fuck off” for no reason i could fathom

they assumed i was intruding in their activity and its social circle

fuck my autistic ass finally all that random jerkassery makes sense

dude i just wanted to see how a game boy looked like

gdi nt’s would you please just say what you mean

you don’t ask the real question because you don’t trust me enough to give me the opportunity to say no, and when i answer the question you literally asked, you take that as ‘no’ and get upset

it’s really unfair

i think this is a case where allistics are the impaired ones

Basically my own reaction to suggestions like this.

Aug 9, 2017 37,074 notes
Why do male characters in older books seem so -- there is no other way to say it -- gay? They cry, they swim naked with their friends, they hug and talk about how much they love each other, etc...

I heard the theory that if homosexuality is so beyond the pale as to be socially impossible, then there’s no need to avoid potential signals of homosexuality. Right now men don’t do those things because if they did, everyone would assume they’re gay. If the assumption is nobody’s gay, you can do whatever you want without signaling anything.

I don’t know how true this is, someone like ozymandias271 might know more.

Aug 9, 2017 48 notes
#gendpol
"would say worst idea but I think I should probably expect even worse ones." Different anon here, and I notice I am confused. Obviously war with NK would be horrifying-likely very heavy casualties (especially in Seoul) and diplomatic backlash. Yet a nuclear attack on the US is becoming increasingly likely-at some point, mightn't it be worth it? Better a war than getting nuked and fighting anyway, unless you're confident they won't use their missiles. Are you, and if so, why and how confident?

I am confident of that. I don’t think the NK regime actually is suicidal. The instances I have read of of political maneuvering by Kim Jong-un suggest absolutely no moral compass but plenty of attention to his image and consolidating his power and advancing his political goals. He’s not impulsive and he understands the geopolitics he’s operating in and he wants to stay in power. If NK seriously attacked the U.S. or Korea or anybody else with nuclear weapons he’s dead inside eight hours. I think there is basically zero chance he’ll do that. 

Most of the risk of nuclear war comes from people misinterpreting signs during a high-tension period, and going to war with North Korea honestly seems like the kind of thing that increases that risk, as it dramatically increases international tensions with other nuclear powers, means there are missiles flying and more potential for confusion, and generally weakens the U.S. yet further, which makes us worse at discouraging proliferation. I think overall the risk of nuclear war is substantially higher if we get into a messy, diplomatically disastrous, protracted mess in Korea now.

(I am less absolutely certain it’s a bad idea to just bomb their facilities for refining. It’s probably a bad idea but it has ever worked before and arguably depends on information you and I don’t have access to.)

Aug 9, 2017 45 notes
#politics

Politicals baffled majority of industry in country caters to majority of customers, products selling in lower volume priced higher.

Aug 9, 2017
#shtpost #uncharitable

ranma-official:

memecucker:

The way people use the whole “marginalized people actually support CENTRIST policies” talking point based on really nothing lol is a good example of how identity politics supports neoliberalism

marginalized people support centrist policies because they’ve been duped into thinking that other marginalized people are stealing their jobs and taxes or whatever, not because centrist policies help marginalized people holy shit

You have to be careful though, because if you fuck it up you get things like French companies being really cautious about hiring people because they can’t easily fire them and have to manage all the productivity limitations.

Aug 9, 2017 120 notes
“But who the fuck are these people? Are they blind? Are they crazy? Have they been brainwashed by all the giant signs? Or is it possible they see something in Trump that the rest of us don’t? What makes someone want to seriously consider voting for this man? I didn’t know what the answer was, but I wanted to see for myself. I needed to make it make sense. So I went to Iowa—Iowa: The State You Grew Up Swearing You’d Leave One Day!™—to meet them. And to see The Donald in the flesh.”—

GQ

Trump supporters as described in the media 12 months ago.

(via argumate)

two years on, voting for Trump remains a head-scratcher.

(via argumate)

Me: There could be side-effects to this whole culture war thing with these unethical tactics that you are not anticipating.

Them: I don’t know what you’re talking about. Getting outgroup members fired is definitely Good because outgroup members are Bad? There would only be consequences to this because outgroup members are Evil??

Aug 9, 2017 42 notes
#uncharitable

mitigatedchaos:

One of the classic problems around requiring regulations is that people just don’t have, and cannot easily obtain, that much information about businesses sometimes, which is required for markets to actually work.  

(Even when information is free or nearly-free, the Market pays people to sabotage it, just like it pays people to sabotage Market competition through buying politicians.)

This is part of my interest in substituting mandatory insurance schemes for explicit regulations, provided the insurance regulations are themselves well-designed.  The customer may not know much about the safety of the business, but the insurance company, which has a long-standing relationship with the business, does.  

And the less the insurance company knows about the business, the more money it charges for insurance, offsetting some of the risk of harm and potentially communicating risk information to customers.

What we actually wanted to mitigate was risk/externalities, not the number of hair clippers, which is only a proxy.

Aug 8, 2017 9 notes

One of the classic problems around requiring regulations is that people just don’t have, and cannot easily obtain, that much information about businesses sometimes, which is required for markets to actually work.  

(Even when information is free or nearly-free, the Market pays people to sabotage it, just like it pays people to sabotage Market competition through buying politicians.)

This is part of my interest in substituting mandatory insurance schemes for explicit regulations, provided the insurance regulations are themselves well-designed.  The customer may not know much about the safety of the business, but the insurance company, which has a long-standing relationship with the business, does.  

And the less the insurance company knows about the business, the more money it charges for insurance, offsetting some of the risk of harm and potentially communicating risk information to customers.

Aug 8, 2017 9 notes
#the invisible fist #policy #politics #the iron hand
Bisexuality, the naive centrism of sexuality.

Anon, honey kun, this is a really bad take and you should feel bad.

Modern political theorists haven’t modeled orientation-party-metaphor as a single axis since at least the publication of the Ganymede Papers in 1917.  Most now model it as either a 17 or 5-dimensional manifold, depending on whether their simulations need full granularity.

Even using the outdated dual-axis Barker-McWillis partition of the orientation space shows that bisexualism isn’t centrism.  

I really don’t know how I and every other gender-ideostruct theorist can be clearer about this.  

Aug 8, 2017 16 notes
#shtpost #gendpol #anons #asks #augmented reality break #what even is this blog

transgirlkyloren:

a good test of the “women are not programmers because they prefer people jobs” hypothesis would be to teach, like, a year-long programming class for girls with a lot of pair programming and the entire class collaborating on a final project the way they’ll collaborate on projects in the work world

and see if the graduates are more likely to go into tech

I haven’t done pair programming but I’m really not looking forward to it.

How can pair programmers, like, think, when at any moment their thoughtstream could be interrupted?

Aug 8, 2017 179 notes

wirehead-wannabe:

I would feel a lot safer if there were employers committed to freeze peach in the same way that there are universities committed to freeze peach. Every offering on the market seems to want to reserve arbitrary power to fire people for saying unpopular or offensive things.

That would require customers to not boycott over dumb things.

Aug 8, 2017 7 notes
“You can’t deny my validity as a rationalist just because I’m not autistic!”—(via rationalists-out-of-context)
Aug 8, 2017 28 notes
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wirehead-wannabe:

theunitofcaring:

Honestly, being in a community where the consensus was ‘bisexuality is the obvious correct orientation, someday we’ll have the ability to change orientation and when we do I will be bi because then I will be able to date more cool people” was kind of good for me because it meant that there was that zany, offbeat, totally-disconected-from-queer-politics message competing with all the biphobia and lesbophobia and discourse. Like, I know it can be a hurtful message or reenforce other hurtful messages, but competing needs are a thing and ‘an environment that takes for granted that maybe someday we’ll get to pick and that when we do people might happily choose non-straight orientations’ was a need of mine.

Seriously though why would anyone want to have to deal with Gender Wars Discourse and lopsided gender ratios in hobbies and pregnancy and power imbalances.

Okay, but I don’t want to deal with compulsory bisexuality discourse and pressure that is sure to result. Right now, we have the excuse not to be bi that changing sexuality is difficult if not impossible.

Aug 8, 2017 111 notes
#gendpol
In response to the trans sex thing I don't think I'll ever understand why liberals are so obsessed with having sex with people who don't like them. It comes off as disingenuous and creepy. "You're not entitled to sex but I am"

I mean, that’s pretty on the money in a way. Why should you be fixated on making someone have sex with you if they are inherently intolerant of you?

Unless like, you are a teenager and fucking assholes and getting heartbroken and abused by someone you want to disingenuously like you because of your obsession with the shallow trappings of being in a relationship with a cis person of the opposite sex is your thing.

Validation should come from peace with yourself than from the person who fucks you.

it’s like the guaranteed path to depression and chronic self-loathing.

Aug 8, 2017 10 notes
#gendpol
Aug 8, 2017 1,084 notes
#trump cw #politics #predictions

It’s probably a good thing that the racenats are fighting over whether slavs are white, since that will likely prevent them from being able to do much of anything.

Aug 8, 2017 1 note
how much does bad diet affect IQ? is it just to do with childhood development or can having a bad diet as an adult deteriorate IQ too? which things should you make sure you're not deficient in to prevent/ slow down deterioration?

I heard that malnourished kids in Third World countries do much better in school if given lots of vitamins, which suggests that it’s not just developmental but can respond to supplementation now.

I’m pretty sure that it’s not a big factor in First World adults, mostly because I feel like I would have heard about it if it was, but I can’t remember seeing any specific proof.

Aug 8, 2017 17 notes

slartibartfastibast:

esoteric-hoxhaism:

deusvulture:

If it’s something that was done and there was no mainstream blowback then it wasn’t an unambiguous norm violation. Also, norms aren’t content-neutral.

For anyone who’s nervously wondering how to avoid being aggressively sanctioned in public for their views/writings: Don’t…. be confrontationally nonconformist…. unless you have a sufficiently powerful outside institution backing you up. This is sheerest common sense, and the whole reason that dramatic public censure is public and dramatic is that it’s for things that are virtually impossible to do on accident.

Ah, yes, things that are virtually impossible to do by accident, such as the dongle thing and the shirt thing.

And it is worth remembering that “confrontationally nonconformist” includes things like “you donate money to a campaign for a state ballot proposition that wins the popular vote” and “someone finds out that you do BDSM”.

Tumblr kinda relies on being esoteric and cumbersome enough a platform (e.g. indexing, basic usability, permalinking, etc. are all complete garbage here) to keep the normies away. A large amount of seminal discourse is happening here (ironically, @argumate will probably unironically deny this (or make a joke about the word “seminal” as a dodge)) and subsequently failing to remain easily traceable as the source by the time it becomes a wikipedia citation or a news article (e.g. donglegate-type discourse and the Scott A.s, and @kontextmaschine posting Pepe in 2014, before Pepe was supposed to be a right wing thing).

Classic blogs were kinda like that in the ‘00s, and the same is perhaps true of USENET in the ‘90s.

I think it’s important for obnoxious thinkerpeople to stick their necks out a bit, and that includes reputational risk. If you don’t harvest risky future potential while people are still being civil, things will eventually turn uncivil (e.g. Rotherham and the rest of the UK and the rest of Europe). The actual measurable risks to the openly opinionated contrarian in a genuinely violent society are a lot greater that the ones in a less violent society (duh). It’s not a paradox but a pigeonhole to say that people who would care to avoid a particularly violent future have to take risks now, while things are still generally nonviolent.

Hmn… fair enough.

Though I benefit a lot from the Tumblr format in terms of average length, time-to-feedback, etc.  Most blog entries out there have no comments, and nothing like “likes” to indicate perceived value and uptake, nor reblogs to spread them.

Aug 8, 2017 20 notes
War on North Korea, good idea or bad idea?

I would say worst idea but I think I should probably expect even worse ones. 

Aug 8, 2017 47 notes
#politics
Maybe I'm just biased by having a singular ginger family member, but gingers are really more like being gay than being a race. Maybe we need to raise a distinction between de novo gingers and ethnic gingers (who are more commonly known as the Irish, as I understand it).

The early Twenty-First Century was a time of many unusual ginger-themed political movements, including the Ginger Nationalist Movement, the Principality of Sea-Ginger, and the “One Red Hair” Club.  

Aug 8, 2017 7 notes
#shtpost #racepol #augmented reality break

collapsedsquid:

In addition to the “at-will employment“ angle here, also noticing people who get offended at words like “neckbeard“ seemingly unable to grasp the general concept of prejudicial language.

Turns out hypocrisy is not very convincing to the outgroup.

Aug 8, 2017 4 notes
#uncharitable

misanthropymademe:

Ancaps and neonationalists in the same thread, lel. The fact that these people are bedfellows just betrays their utter lack of principles. 

To be fair, most immigrants coming in are for more government interference, and AnCapism/Libertarianism can only be instantiated with sufficient public support. (For my part I want *better* government interference, but then, I’m not an AnCap.)

Aug 8, 2017 7 notes
#politics

Gingers are a race

I’m willing to accept this argument, but only if it unlocks new and exciting discourse not yet available in my country.

Aug 8, 2017 882 notes
The Google Memo: Next Steps

the-grey-tribe:

One day has passed. Manifestbro was named, shamed and fired.

Instead of the version that gizmodo published, with the links and graphs stripped out, we have the full version of the memo now.

I think it’s important to understand that this memo was not written *for* the public to read, but for Google management. I don’t think the guy realised this would get more than a hundred views, or he might have posted it anonymously on wordpress. The sucker thought this would stay inside Google. What a douchebro!

There have been bits of insightful commentary, and most of the rest boiled down to “It’s true, but he should not say it“. @slatestarscratchpad had written a piece in reply to a reply to the memo, both of which focused of the science of gender differences, which were only tangentially related to the actionable recommendations from the memo about anti-diversity training.

Google executives have hand-wrung about valuing free expression and this should be discussed, but …

People have lost their shit over words like “agreeableness“, “openness“, “conscientiousness“ and “neuroticism“. Basically social psychology terminology is sexist now, which brings be to my …

Next Step: Go After Scientists

I’m being 100% serious here. I believe that the SJWs who hated this memo should do this one weird thing to maximise their culture war impact:

  • Click the links in the memo
  • Compile a list of scientists
  • Ask them to disavow of the memo
  • Go public

Otherwise manifestbro will find work at another place, and another Googler will find the same hatefacts on arXiv or PLoS. This is a pipeline problem. As long as there are “scientific“ studies on gender differences, people will use them. Especially genius Harvard biologists.

So you have to make it clear, drill it into people’s heads: If you continue researching this shit, there will be consequences! (Be vague about consequences here. Ostensibly you mean to imply that certain research output will turn genius Harvard biologists alt-right, but you also want to darkly hint at ~~consequences~~)

Once you establishes contact with a scientist, any of the coauthors of the linked papers, ask them if they think that their research directly supports the conclusions of the memo. Don’t let them weasel out. If they tell you that there is no direct link between the quality of sensitivity training (which they probably did not measure) at Google and OCEAN traits in undergrads, tell them to condemn the memo then, to be on the safe side.

If they tell you that they want to stay out of it, get inventive: Contact the student union at their institution or leak the names of their grad students on your twitter!

Ask them to

  • condemn the memo
  • publicly praise the importance of sensitivity training
  • acknowledge their own responsibility for creating alt-right memes
  • retract the paper they wrote cited in the memo
  • not again publish results that put women at risk

Make them publicly commit to these pledges!

If they refuse, tweet! This is your one chance to destroy the root of the evil and to leave nothing but scorched earth. Things are in motion. Reactionaries don’t know if their increased visibility from the memo will help them coordinate, or if it will lead to a coordinated expulsion of known reactionaries. Don’t let counterrevolutionary elements take root! Now is your chance!

Ever forward! Fire and motion!

Ah, but how did we get the new reactionaries? The disadvantage of this method is that subsequent conversions to the right wing are permanent. Once someone finds out that “forced envelopment” got classified as something other than rape in study after the CDC contacted some institutional feminist, for instance, they aren’t going to believe Feminist studies anymore. At that point, getting them to come back to feminism becomes impossible. The number of hatefacts may be reduced, but every hatefact becomes more potent.

Aug 8, 2017 46 notes
#politics #rape cw

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

anaisnein said: the concept of natural, non-socialization-driven self-sorting by gender assumes that, in the absence of all socialization, gender would still be a thing (and one that generally aligns with what we’ll postulate are the two major reproductive apparatus types or clusters thereof). and I don’t find that intuitively obvious. and studies about babies gravitating to faces vs mobiles or whatever don’t seem to make a dent in how not at all intuitive it is.

I’m not sure how we could test this, given that human babies aren’t capable of independent development, so we can’t just dump a bunch of them in the wilderness somewhere and see what happens, nor do we have any truly blank slate adults to look after them.

My intuition is the opposite - it seems pretty absurd that sexual dimorphism would apply so clearly and visibly to the rest of our bodies yet have no impact whatsoever on personality distribution or what people are attracted to, especially given how complicated heterosexuality is.

And like, to rub this in, noticing that as many as 1 in 5 women may have PCOS (and thus elevated androgens) depending on the cutoff level just makes this seem more sensible to me, not less, because you can have a sterile XY female with sufficient androgen insensitivity, so obviously the process is complicated and not just a binary switch, leaving room for lots of variation while still clustering.

do rates of PCOS differ by field?

I would love to know this and rates of bisexualism/etc by field. I suspect they do, but I have a sample size of like, two.

Of course none of this is a reason not to believe individuals that say they like certain fields/interests!

Aug 8, 2017 26 notes
#gendpol

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

anaisnein said: the concept of natural, non-socialization-driven self-sorting by gender assumes that, in the absence of all socialization, gender would still be a thing (and one that generally aligns with what we’ll postulate are the two major reproductive apparatus types or clusters thereof). and I don’t find that intuitively obvious. and studies about babies gravitating to faces vs mobiles or whatever don’t seem to make a dent in how not at all intuitive it is.

I’m not sure how we could test this, given that human babies aren’t capable of independent development, so we can’t just dump a bunch of them in the wilderness somewhere and see what happens, nor do we have any truly blank slate adults to look after them.

My intuition is the opposite - it seems pretty absurd that sexual dimorphism would apply so clearly and visibly to the rest of our bodies yet have no impact whatsoever on personality distribution or what people are attracted to, especially given how complicated heterosexuality is.

And like, to rub this in, noticing that as many as 1 in 5 women may have PCOS (and thus elevated androgens) depending on the cutoff level just makes this seem more sensible to me, not less, because you can have a sterile XY female with sufficient androgen insensitivity, so obviously the process is complicated and not just a binary switch, leaving room for lots of variation while still clustering.

do rates of PCOS differ by field?

I would love to know this and rates of bisexualism/etc by field. I suspect they do, but I have a sample size of like, two.

Aug 8, 2017 26 notes
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Like, don’t take for granted how we have not only all this complicated hardware for facial recognition, but also for determining atractiveness that tracks with e.g. specific kinds of body fat used to build the extremely expensive baby brains of our species.

In terms of how much trouble it is to implement, heterosexuality is actually really complicated and it only seems normal to so many people because it’s already implemented for them at the subconscious level.

Aug 8, 2017 3 notes
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argumate:

anaisnein said: the concept of natural, non-socialization-driven self-sorting by gender assumes that, in the absence of all socialization, gender would still be a thing (and one that generally aligns with what we’ll postulate are the two major reproductive apparatus types or clusters thereof). and I don’t find that intuitively obvious. and studies about babies gravitating to faces vs mobiles or whatever don’t seem to make a dent in how not at all intuitive it is.

I’m not sure how we could test this, given that human babies aren’t capable of independent development, so we can’t just dump a bunch of them in the wilderness somewhere and see what happens, nor do we have any truly blank slate adults to look after them.

My intuition is the opposite - it seems pretty absurd that sexual dimorphism would apply so clearly and visibly to the rest of our bodies yet have no impact whatsoever on personality distribution or what people are attracted to, especially given how complicated heterosexuality is.

And like, to rub this in, noticing that as many as 1 in 5 women may have PCOS (and thus elevated androgens) depending on the cutoff level just makes this seem more sensible to me, not less, because you can have a sterile XY female with sufficient androgen insensitivity, so obviously the process is complicated and not just a binary switch, leaving room for lots of variation while still clustering.

Aug 8, 2017 26 notes
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quantumgenerator:

let monster women look monstrous u fucking cowards

You think that sht pays for itself?  You think fucking superconducting magnets for building these enormous full prosthetic bodies are free or something?

Alright, when my company makes some licensed, snake-themed anime bullsht, we can reliably sell 400,000 units.  Yeah, that’s not a typo.  Not forty units.  Not four hundred units.  Four hundred thousand units.

That’s what people want.  That’s what they buy.  That’s what they’re willing to pay for.  We are in the business of making what people are willing to pay for.  Microtanium alloy does not come cheap.

You think we haven’t tried more ‘exotic’ body designs?  We’ve done that.  Small batches.  Little unique touches for all of them.  Totally novel arm and shoulder designs.

You know who buys that?  Collectors.  Every time we try it it’s a struggle to sell the whole batch for more than it cost us to make it.

That “dumb” pretty design you’re railing against, that is so popular, is compatible with every door handle, every stove, most typical tops, most typical hats, and so on.  You can go out tomorrow and buy everything you need for it.  All the catalogs already exist, and where they don’t, “human equipment will do.”

Not to mention that, even leaving aside that most of our customers still have to interface with business environments, most humans aren’t gossisexual, they aren’t going to adapt to something too far outside the human bodyplan, and most of our customers don’t want to look hideous, even in the N- and L-band neurotypes.  Even shifting most of the muscle control on e.g. the spider special mode to software is straining the neuroplasticity limits of the human brain, and neuroplasticity amplifiers are not free of side-effects.

This is just so woefully naive and idealistic.  Really, I’ve had it up to here with outsiders trying to force their aesthetic preferences on my industry.

If you want such a monstrous body, go buy it yourself.  There are hundreds, maybe thousands of custom shops that will put one together for you.  But don’t go btching about how “your monsterwoman synth bodies don’t look monstrous enough”.

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sadoeconomist:

argumate:

alkthash:

argumate:

so what are we all getting mad about next

The ethics of cloning woolly mammoths?

how else are we gonna get juicy mammoth burgers??

Does someone not want woolly mammoths cloned? I cannot begin to imagine a halfway decent argument against that

It won’t be feasible to synthesize the necessary gut bacteria and socialization, and it isn’t clear what habitat they’d survive in currently, if anywhere.  It may be difficult to get enough of a population going to ensure a stable breeding population, and the cost to get the 1,000 or maybe 10,000 mammoths that may take would be prohibitive for most entities that might consider doing it.

There, halfway decent.

Aug 8, 2017 108 notes

argumate:

mitigatedchaos:

argumate:

so what are we all getting mad about next

I’m really upset that my favorite ship in Strawberry Rationalist Girl RenegadeAngles-san isn’t official in the new season and I’m planning to hold the government of Sapporo hostage in the name of queer spider-cyborg representation and morphological freedom until the studio agrees to make it canon.

I’ve got three airsoft rifles, a crew of fifteen dedicated hardcore brotakus, and a tank.  I really think we can pull this off.  You in?

please god tell me brotaku isn’t a real thing

“There are only two things in life that are valuable.  Anime, and sick gainz.”
- some Japanese guy, probably

The Brotaku School of anime-style martial arts goes back to the year of 1994, in a small town on the outskirts of San Francisco, California.  I’m not surprised you haven’t heard of it, since it’s pretty obscure.  Few even know it exists, much less the power of its techniques.  It’s quite brutal, but it has to be - the Brotaku School exists to break the will of the neckbeard so that they can be transformed and elevated to a new level of Man, seeking both perfection of mind and of body.  

Not all of them survive.  Those that do make a vow of voluntary celibacy in order to prove their loyalty to the 2D Ideal.

Of course, I don’t really hold to the 2D Ideal myself, different school of martial arts and beliefs and all that, but they embody a kind of aspect of the national will and we kind of deeply connected over sharing tips to unlock all the endings of Discourse Beach and then we decided to overthrow the government.

But eventually we realized that was too much work and settled for getting RenegadeAngles fixed.

So are you coming or what?

Aug 8, 2017 108 notes
#shtpost #augmented reality break #this is a joke

argumate:

so what are we all getting mad about next

I’m really upset that my favorite ship in Strawberry Rationalist Girl RenegadeAngles-san isn’t official in the new season and I’m planning to hold the government of Sapporo hostage in the name of queer spider-cyborg representation and morphological freedom until the studio agrees to make it canon.

I’ve got three airsoft rifles, a crew of fifteen dedicated hardcore brotakus, and a tank.  I really think we can pull this off.  You in?

Aug 8, 2017 108 notes
#shtpost #supervillain #dont actually do this #augmented reality break #what even is this blog
Are Brexit and Trump the first signs that the Dire Problem is coming to a head? What political upheavals will we see when Google perfects the self-driving car and the TruckApocalypse comes?

If the Dire Problem is supposed to be job automation, most of the best studies I’ve seen suggest that job automation isn’t having real effects right now (yes, everyone is confused about this, but the studies are pretty unanimous). I don’t know whether that will continue past the Truckpocalypse (<– correct form, your portmanteau is way too unwieldy).

My guess is Trump and Brexit have more to do with income inequality caused by other stuff, increased class differences coming from the income inequality, and various social stuff coming out of those class differences.

Aug 7, 2017 28 notes
#shtpost #augmented reality break #supervillain
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