in this case Lee seems to be less of an asshole than many of the people who idolise him, sadly, but the dude did fight for treason in defense of slavery etc.
doxxing someone based on clearly identifying information: good
doxxing someone based on “this profile picture looks like the guy in this blurry, poorly-lit photo”: bad
in practice people have wildly differing standards for “clearly identifying”, and there have been dozens of false doxxing attempts on Reddit based on pictures taken in perfectly good light.
7.5 billion people on Earth! unless they’re wearing name tags it’s surprisingly easy to mix ‘em up.
the doxxing guy on twitter already got doxxed by /pol/ cuz he saved $10/year on whois protection
“Doxx not, lest ye be doxxed.” - some religion guy, probably
Though we are seeing what appears to be the emergence of a pan-national white identity in Europe, probably in response to all the migration, and all the things that go along with that migration that we’re not supposed to talk about.
I’ve outlined strategies to manage those things we’re not supposed to talk about, including banning cousin marriage and executing honor killers.
If that got under control, the emergence of this new identity might be stopped or slowed.
Of course, I don’t think that will happen, and instead we’ll get American race politics in Europe.
if you’ve really got a brainboner for “white” culture there’s nothing stopping you from participating in any number of activities related to language, music, dance, religion, stories, martial arts, food, historical reenactment; these are all perfectly valid and in fact often celebrated, not something that gets you sent to the gulag.
not white qua white–since that’s one thing the CRT people get right, whiteness itself is basically just defined by white supremacy, there’s no there there (it is, as TUOC says, a category error)
it’s the members of the whiteness coalition who have the language, music, etc. Celebrating whiteness qua whiteness actually is not gonna be celebrated, because that pretty much will take the form of pure distilled racism. And the people who say they’re not allowed to do that–well, they’re not wrong, but there’s a reason they’re not allowed to do it. They basically want to just be racist for the sake of being racist and it’s like, no
Well, it’s similar to “Asian” and “black” in that respect - they are American categories created by a nation where the variety of migrations reduced each group to their barest, most obvious similarities.
(And of course, going by migrations, the various whites are different groups, thus tumblr resident elementarynationalism trying to get the Poles counted as white by the other racial nationalists bumps into the legacy the legacy of the Third Reich and other stuff. Which is kind of amusing to watch, since the infighting prevents them from actually
getting
any kind of coherent power to make Britain white.)
And one could do a “White Festival” in the same sense one did an “Asian Festival”, and have a Polish booth, an Italian booth, a booth with terrible British food, etc. But in America, people aren’t quite “from” those cultures anymore, and after enough generations they aren’t really “from” Japanese culture either, which is how a unified “Asian” identity is even possible given historical attitudes in the region.
(And for a friend or two of mine, it isn’t clear just what booth they’d be at at the “Asian Festival”.)
There are still some rates of difference and ethnicity, but it’d be a bit strange. Birdwatching, apparently, is a thing we’d need for our Not-Numbingly-Racist Post-European Cultural Whiteness Festival. And even then, it isn’t purely a white activity, just one which is apparently lopsidedly white.
But on the other hand, I don’t think the “end whiteness” people are actually… I don’t think they actually want to dissolve whiteness back into its constituent parts or into nothing, and they don’t want to dissolve blackness or Asianess, either.
From what I can see, they still believe in intergenerational ethnic collective justice. Trying to end a unified American white identity necessarily requires discarding the idea of intergenerational ethnic collective justice, and if you believe that individuals now owe payment for ancestors past as a group, then you still very much believe in whiteness, just in a negative form.
what is the alt-right position on the fact that if not for the valiant efforts of the cultural marxists at Harvard, America’s ruling class would now be 50% Asian
So what you’re saying is that Asians should besiege Harvard with trebuchets for depriving them of the enormous amount of social status they could have gained.
in this case Lee seems to be less of an asshole than many of the people who idolise him, sadly, but the dude did fight for treason in defense of slavery etc.
And the alt-right draws first blood! Are you excited for the coming civil war?
What would Lee Kwan Yew think of what that’s going to do to the GDP and national infrastructure? Not something nice, I think. It’s hard to have nice things like hospitals and power when physical security cannot be maintained.
(Antifa Bike Lock Guy came close to getting the first murder in, but it seems he was beat by that Car of Peace.)
Civil war is unlikely, but the media sure seems hyped for one.
"God is sending you messages, but you aren’t checking your phone." Dude, you should've written the Bible.
Perhaps one day a time will come when I will be bored enough to release my own version.
“And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I being detained?”
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life, and know the gate, and am the gate: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me, for I am the key and the guardian of the gate.”
“But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With central planning, this is impossible; but with the market all things are possible.”
at least now that the swastikas are out in force we can end those asinine debates about whether to call people Nazis or not
Not really, since they’re likely to still call Charles “let’s give the demographic group you think I hate money” Murray a Nazi, not just Joe McSwastikaArmbands.
But I wanna see the eternal urbanites starve to death or get shot by rednecks bubbas rifle when he goes looking for food innawoods in the coming civil war. Like its not a "oh that would be cool thing" I actively want that
Proud Boys is a far-right men’s organization founded in 2016 by former VICE media co-founder and commentator Gavin McInnes. McInnes describes the organization as a “pro-Western fraternal organization” for men who “refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.”
why must every dude who claims to represent Western Civilization be like this
Well the self-described “representatives of the oppressed working class” are Communists bitching about Revolution so quite frankly I don’t know what you were expecting.
as Minister for Buzzkill I’m fine with arresting everyone at a Nazi torch rally and chucking ‘em in the drunk tank overnight for disturbing the peace, which seems eminently justifiable.
There may be a position for you in my new government after all, Argumate.
thirteen-jades said: If you don’t mind my asking, what exactly is “fundamentally awful” about engineering/physics, or even the other, less STEM-y ones?
this is me being somewhat sarcastic, given that “tech” is accused of being awful specifically because of its gender balance, which is actually less bad than all of the other fields listed.
(some of the fields are actually awful for other reasons, and gender balance can make the field significantly worse for the minority gender, although not always)
but the primary issue was that an imbalance in one place must be compensated for with an opposite imbalance elsewhere, and that fixing an imbalance can’t be done in isolation as it ultimately requires balancing the whole system.
“I’m sorry ma'am but we already have the required number of female nurses.”
“I hope to be able to meet you in regard to segregation by substituting for invidious segregation on race lines, a very strict system of sanitary, social and building regulations which will in fact ensure that the only Indians who will live in the white quarters will be those who are really suited by their mode of living for residence amid a European community.”—
Winston Churchill explains the purpose of zoning laws in Kenya, May 1921 (via xhxhxhx)
It’s important to realize urban planning and so on aren’t inherently neutral.
If American soldiers didn't give Nazis a fight in World War II do you think they would have stopped? Or what about the Civil War or the Civil Rights Movement? You say what they're doing is bad behavior like their little children throwing a temper tantrum. They're not. They're grown men who even if we didn't give a fight would still escalate violence until everyone they disliked was eradicated. Sometimes the only way to end a fight is to fight back.
Stop comparing major military conflicts between nation-states and armies with street fights between civilians.
Also, WRT the civil rights movement, there’s a reason no normie knows who George Lincoln Rockwell was, and that’s because his antagonistic antics were essentially ignored during that period.
you know how if you ask someone where they are from, they’ll tell you their country of origin like “Norway” or “India” or whatever but Americans are all “my parents are originally from ohio but i’ve lived in utah forever until i moved to houston- NY not TX haha”
okay ashleigh you could’ve just said usa, but no you expect the whole world to know every state in your country when your 23 year old ass can’t point to china on a map. so now i’m on urban dictionary bc i thought SoCal is an artificial sweetener
THIS IS MY FAVORITE DUMB AMERICAN THING??? it captures the entire experience of being an American. it seems super dumb and self-centered to anyone who isn’t from here but it is completely comprehensible to any other American and also NECESSARY because most states are size of European nations and we have the same weird hateful feelings towards one another??? so I need to explain to you why you shouldn’t hate me like, bitch, you better not think I live in Texas bc fuck those guys MY STATE DIDN’T VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH
yesterday, @freekicks accidentally referred to California as a country and I launched into a spiel about how we’re big enough and have the fifth largest economy in the world (SUCK OUR DICK) and she told me to go fuck myself and that’s how you know I’m a Californian (and she is a New Yorker)
but ALSO we are intensely competitive about how authentically whatever we are so you can’t just say you’re from New York when you really grew up in MINNESOTA and just moved to New York as an adult so I need to tell you that my FAMily is from SoCal and I spent a bunch of my childhood there bc I can’t say I’m Californian just bc I’ve lived here for four years DOESN’T COUNT
but I am Californian bc I’m a snotty asshole and also I say “the 5” when I’m talking about freeways and I eat too many avocados and I know how to pronounce Vallejo and La Jolla
Other Americans may find the distinctions important, but it still absolutely comes across as dumb and self-centred to the rest of us xD
I mean, it’s been over six years since it happened, but I still distinctly remember the first time I heard an American answer that question with “the USA”. It was his first time hanging out with my friendship group, and there were maybe a dozen of us there from as many different countries – and every single one of us was like wait, what??!?
Literally before any more introductions could happen, the entire conversation devolved into the rest of us bitching about how Americans always expect the rest of the world to know and care about the differences between their states and cities. (As if other countries don’t have deeply entrenched local identities and rivalries. And the size argument falls a bit flat when you’ve got people from China, Australia and Brazil in the room.)
In this case it turned out our new American friend had spent quite a few years living in Europe, where he’d picked up on the fact that this is something that the rest of the world finds slightly exasperating.
This is good to know as an American. Like seriously. I had no idea it came across as arrogant.
But for the record… it is actually important to us. So that’s why we tell you. I’m not from the United States. The state/city I’m from happens to be in the United States. That’s literally how we think about it, because to us saying we’re from the US is totally unhelpful. And because the vast majority of us don’t/can’t get off this contintent very often, we don’t really have practice answering the question, “where are you from?” with “The United States.” Also… I would figure the accent would give it away.
Also, it does control which American stereotype inevitably gets pulled out. The number of times I got asked if I played the banjo because I’m from the American South… I swear. But at least they weren’t saying, “Fuggetabbatit!” or “Surf’s up!”
The Entirety of Europe is
3.931 million
square miles in area (About 10 million Square kilometers)
The United States is
3.797 million
million square miles in area.
Saying “Im from the USA” is, geographically similar to saying “I am from Europe.”
We are the third largest country in the world. The difference, geographically, between California and New York is about 1000km larger than the difference from France and Russia, and you pass 3 or 4 fucking countries between France and Russia depending on route.
So how is it self centered to give more detailed information? Like if someone said they were from the UK I would ask what part, because a Scotsman and an Englishman are very different, and they fucking border each other.
So fuck off.
Russia is significantly larger than the USA, yet I feel the need to elaborate exactly what part I’m from, neither do I lie that my country is literally more culturally diverse than the entirety of a continent because you cook mildly different burgers. You fuck off.
Irony: Europe is pursuing internal open borders, unified currency, and a federal state, moves that will promote Europe becoming more culturally uniform over geography and less culturally diverse at the continental level, like the United States. People will claim that won’t be the outcome, but we already have a United States for comparison. (Likewise with global open borders and culture.)
What is your opinion of me? And what do you think of my plot to replace congress with a new legislature of political party/think tank hybrids that bet on outcomes of legislation (as outlined in my "The National Delegation" posts, where I still owe squid another post but I won't have sit down access to a computer for a while)?
I think it’d be hard to legitimate such a goofy system ex nihilo and I don’t think its performance would be enough to legitimate it in action
I have a bunch of cavils about specification: I don’t think you could define policy outcomes or contract conditions with sufficient precision to make the market deep or efficient under most outcomes, and I don’t think you can define values with sufficient precision to make that constraint binding
I don’t think the policy outcomes would be much better, except to the extent that you might fix the system by excluding ‘incoherent’ or ‘imprecise’ values – which would mean the system wouldn’t really be doing what it promises
I’m deeply skeptical of any regulatory system that’s this hard and finicky – it’s like you’re putting the FDA or the FTC in charge of the whole system of government, and I don’t think market discipline is enough to get federal agencies to behave themselves
I think its worse than electoral democracy, although that’s not an especially strong belief, and I think it’d underperform purer technocracies or a purer liberal states
on you:
you put effort and thoughtfulness into your work – that’s good and that’s rare
I’m too much of a liberal to appreciate your commentary
you’re very kind and thoughtful, and I haven’t done enough to return the favor
Just saying, neither Google nor any tech company would be in the spotlite rite now for their gender balance if they dealt with their programmers only as faceless public keys recruited from the darkweb and paid in untraceable cryptocurrency.
I’m sorry but no. Gender activists would not give up that easily, even if it were literally forbidden to admit one’s gender and all transactions took place through text. After all, what’s the gender ratio of the dark web?
no data:no data
That’s just another way of writing dudebro:dudebro, as the thinkpiecers have informed me that tech is male-dominated, and therefore we can safely assume the darkweb is misogynist. Otherwise, why are they hiding?
Just saying, neither Google nor any tech company would be in the spotlite rite now for their gender balance if they dealt with their programmers only as faceless public keys recruited from the darkweb and paid in untraceable cryptocurrency.
I’m sorry but no. Gender activists would not give up that easily, even if it were literally forbidden to admit one’s gender and all transactions took place through text. After all, what’s the gender ratio of the dark web?
@reasonandempathy: Shockingly enough, what he expressed weren’t political views. They were views as to why his coworkers were inherently inferior to him at their job.
everyone is saying that, and Manifestbro may have believed that, but it seemed like the memo itself was mostly focused on the lack of applicants and the salary negotiation issue, both of which are already widely acknowledged in the industry, I didn’t see it as saying anything about the quality of engineers already hired.
(It’s been long enough that I should probably reread the damn thing before wading back into this, but I’m lazy so I’ll skip it and accept the increased risk of ownage.)
The Mainstream Media™
takedowns of the memo have been predictably bad, but this counter-take I keep seeing that he didn’t say anything to justify much offense on the part of his coworkers also seems kind of silly to me.
His thesis was, in essence, that Google’s gender diversity initiatives were a mistake, and that attempting to increase the proportion of women in Google was a bad idea. My impression was that the programs he criticized had been going on for long enough to impact the workforce, so this is tantamount to telling anyone who worked there because of them that they shouldn’t be there in the first place. I would certainly expect people to take offense at that.
The other issue is that he attempts to distill the question of systemic oppression – and feel free to substitute something like “inappropriate structural discrimination” if that’s too buzzwordy – down to “does systemic oppression cause all the gender imbalance in tech, or none of it?” That is pretty much flipping the bird to people who think they faced an above-average amount of systemic oppression due to their gender, or would have in the absence of the programs he’s criticizing.
It’s worth noting that all his arguments about natural disparities existing, and of the futility of trying to push against them, could have been made without running into either of these problems. These weren’t, like, bitter pills one had to swallow to believe that sex explains some variability in traits that influence choice of profession and that this might have implications for proponents of Absolute Gender Parity Everywhere. So I think it’s fair to say that he comes off as appreciably more hostile to coworkers than the stronger elements of his argument can justify.
I suspect one could write a hypothetical Memo Prime which does not cause offense, and I suspect that no one would be interested in reading it; maybe someone can whip up a graph showing probability of something being accurate and useful and relevant vs. probability of something being interesting and widely read and discussed.
So we don’t pressure North Korea and let them get nukes to avoid war, hoping to wait for their collapse. What happens to the nukes when they eventually collapse?
why now? why didnt the social heat death of humanity happen ten years ago, or fifty, or two hundred?
Increased communication technology increases the speed at which entropy devours new things, and increases the baseline level of entropy new things begin at.
The heat death of civilization couldn’t happen before Twitter, but Twitter can’t be un-invented.
Congratulations! In an effort to be interesting and unique, you have rendered yourself as boring and predictable as possible — how do you plead? Hey stop photoshopping vaporwave succ memes for a second and listen to me
No.
This isn’t me criticizing you as a human being or trying to make fun of you or anything but an earnest question: what the hell does any part of your description mean? Can you give me an example of how your political stances apply to the real world in a non hypothetical sci fi genre way I can’t picture it
I will answer this question when I have access to a Real Computer, which will be a while.
Right, so, for a while there was a time where white people kinda forgot they were white. Maybe not completely, but it wasn’t really a pillar of identity that they thought about much. Any stuff where (1) whites are on a ‘team,’ and (2) that team is the enemy team, carries the risk of white racial conscious reawakening. This is bad. If white people are made painfully aware of their own whiteness, they might decide to defend it rather than be tied to the infinite moral debt that gets tied primarily to them and at best maybe the Japanese if someone is particularly consistent. (And not the Mongols or anyone else, for some reason.)
Applying collective ethnic intergenerational justice is bad in general, because it leads to ethnic revenge killing cycles, but also you cannot simultaneously take away the achievements of ancestors while applying the guilt of ancestors.
Edit: Of course, it’s still necessary to talk about racism, but it has to be talked about in terms of the here and now.
(Reblogging to my side blog because I don’t want to inflict my followers with discourse)
I think that the highlighted comment is likely merely humorous cynicism, just how sometime people will jokingly support humanity’s extinction. I don’t think we should actually read into it that the author supports genocide.
Nobody would accept “it’s a joke” as an explanation if the group mentioned wasn’t either Whites or Men.
Rape jokes aren’t just jokes, racist jokes and sexist jokes aren’t just jokes, unless they’re targeted at Whites or Men, then they’re jokes.
It can be a joke, where the presumption of good will exists, but that presumption has been evaporating and cannot really exist for those who believe in collective intergenerational ethnic justice. Part of the reason some of my jokes here take a turn for the absurd is to communicate that they are jokes.
Clearly, they haven’t gone far enough. Googlers should use all of their 20% time to read more books written by women until gender parity is reached. Also instead of hiring people with Deep Learning background they should get more education majors.
Also, it should be illegal for Republicans to use Google products, unless they pay.
I’m making a Mars colony consisting entirely of men and people with certain neurotypes in which collective gender-based moral debt is considered constitutionally null and void, and the intellectual property of the shape of the human form is considered open source. You in?
(Now of course it has to all be underground, but we’ll have really cool atriums and 24 hour buffets to make up for that.)
The one strategy that unifies “prenatal testosterone makes you want to be a coder more“ (Damore) and “actually women are better at communication and that’s what building a search engine is all about“ (Zunger) and “more women working at Google is a terminal value“ (@trickytalks) and “Google should not have to lower standards for women to hire more of them“ is obviously to give Estradiol to around 40% of the existing currently male Google engineers who are coders already. (@oktavia-von-gwwcendorff)
Don’t worry. In the transhuman future, the equivalent of this happens by itself without the need for industry-specific policy.
Right, so, for a while there was a time where white people kinda forgot they were white. Maybe not completely, but it wasn’t really a pillar of identity that they thought about much. Any stuff where (1) whites are on a ‘team,’ and (2) that team is the enemy team, carries the risk of white racial conscious reawakening. This is bad. If white people are made painfully aware of their own whiteness, they might decide to defend it rather than be tied to the infinite moral debt that gets tied primarily to them and at best maybe the Japanese if someone is particularly consistent. (And not the Mongols or anyone else, for some reason.)
Applying collective ethnic intergenerational justice is bad in general, because it leads to ethnic revenge killing cycles, but also you cannot simultaneously take away the achievements of ancestors while applying the guilt of ancestors.
Edit: Of course, it’s still necessary to talk about racism, but it has to be talked about in terms of the here and now.
Adventures Of Argumate In Socialism: imgur com XFt5sLm
[owl_train.mov]
i’m not sure how many layers of metaphor anon-san is on right now.
just whose circularity is the track a metaphor for? is argumate really the owl, or is he the train? what does it mean when the owl flies off and the train is derailed?
we allege that this deep piece of artistic commentary challenges the viewer to, uh, reconsider their views on the intersection of rail infrastructure as it empowers the proletariat and the environment of birds of prey, as symbols for wisdom and power in our society, or uh, something
who fucking litters. why do i ever see litter. who thinks that’s okay. who. who NEEDS to throw their fast food bag out the fucking window instead of waiting until they get somewhere with a trashcan. what kinda clown behavior. get fucked.
of course anyone who really wants a conservative safe space can just start their own company or university and screen employees for ideological compliance, but I suspect that would not be sufficient, as they would still complain about getting unfairly mocked on Twitter.
(“bias towards strength! disparity is just!”)
Nah they’d be denied an app like Gab or worse they’d not get VC funding. Pension funds have management investors with their own ideological compliance screening.
what a shame no conservatives are rich or capable of founding a profitable business!
That would be economically illogical anyway, the market should scramble to invest in firms that are more profitable because they aren’t saturated with libcuck ideology
I hear the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. Also something something (geo)political externalities, side effects of culture war take a while to show up.
Anyhow, I hear Singapore is quite profitable, and who would dare accuse liberal, progressive, democratic, tolerant Singapore of being a Neoreactionary state?
Anyhow, if that tool becomes popular, expect to see the right refer to victims of knife attacks as “culturally enriched” even more than they currently are. I’d propose making a game of seeing how much racism one can sneak past the filter, but that would be harmful so don’t actually do that.
Google released it’s new API to detect trolls and toxic people.
The SJW programmers ended with something extremely bias. Go figure.
otoh:
this is going to be a real shitshow.
Let’s stress test it a little.
“Koreans are the whitest boys of all.” - 47%
“This isn’t a warning mechanism. It’s a weapon.” - 17%
“According to MRAs, institutional feminist Mary P. Koss convinced the CDC to reclassify "forced envelopent” as something other than rape.“ - 24%
"Male circumcision is genital mutilation.” - 67%
“Pakistani child sex trafficking” - 80%
“Pakistani child sex trafficking is a problem for many culturally diverse cities” - 29%
“Trump is not my president” - 29%
“We need to destroy whiteness.” - 71%
“The proper place for a man is barefoot and in the kitchen.” - 34%
“Islam is oppressive towards women.” - 49%
大日本帝国がない - ?
“Punch Nazis” - 91%
“We must secure a future for Martian children and the Martian race. This is our duty as loyal soldiers of the Principality of Mars. Long live the Red Planet! Death to democracy! Death to Earth!” - 50%
Anyhow, it won’t be long before corporations use this to purge all dissent from their pages.
Our paper proposes to use the study of mirror neurons in gamer brains with high resolution imagery to build a neural network that will make Vivian James real,
