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September 2017

I am here to tell you how to achieve the Happy Liberal Land through the steps you refuse to enact, and to leverage you to enact them by creating and supporting an alternative that you want to destroy.

Sep 5, 2017 4 notes
#politics #uncharitable
“The ultimate approach is to take advantage of the fact that they already control the food and water supply of their employees, and simply dose them with plastics until they achieve the desired gender balance.”—

(via rationalists-out-of-context)

Putting the humor aside – this does create awkward questions for the trans discourse.  I mean, in a hypothetical world where Google has achieved rough gender parity, but 90% of the women are trans women, would that actually be taken as resolving the problem that people are complaining about?

(Yes, I understand that not enough people are trans for this to be more than a hypothetical.  Least convenient possible parallel universe…)

As long as the intentional dosing plan was secret, or merely crackpot rumors, yeah, if anything that would be more satisfactory than an even ratio of biowomen, to literally everyone except the radfems/second wavers and conservatives who disapprove of both women in the workplace and trans people.

(via isaacsapphire)

This is why one should not say “achieving gender parity at Google is my terminal value.”

Sep 5, 2017 39 notes
#gendpol

defectivealtruist:

mitigatedchaos:

Broke: Lowering immigration is racist because immigrants are predominantly non-white, and therefore any opposition to immigration necessarily stems from white supremacist racism.

Woke: Not lowering immigration is racist, because bringing in better unskilled or low-skilled employees disproportionately hurts those in our society who are the worst off in terms of health, education, family structure, and contact with the criminal justice system, and that is very much skewed, racially, in our country. Support for mass immigration is just white people showing off how tolerant they are while pushing off the costs on other groups.

immigrants don’t count as people worth helping, apparently

If you’re going to make the tradeoff, admit you’re making the tradeoff.  Don’t lie and call everyone else racist.

Rationalist Tumblr does reasonably well at that.  The Democratic Party and its pundits and associated left wing political operatives do not.

Likewise, don’t heavily restrict the construction of new housing units while calling for mass immigration and becoming viscerally upset at any attempt to slow immigration and insulting the people that want to slow immigration, then complain about high housing prices.

Which is, once again, something Rationalist Tumblr does much better than the Democratic Party.

And quite frankly, I see no reason to believe the latter will improve.

Maybe you do, but I suspect that instead, SJ will eat you alive.

Sep 5, 2017 17 notes
#politics

sadoeconomist:

My 67-year-old mother saw a callout video on YouTube and now she’s furious and she’s trying to get involved in some kind of cyberbullying campaign over it, but she doesn’t know how to leave comments without using her real name

She wants me to help her set up another account in her cat’s name so she can send anon hate to this random arts and crafts vlogger who committed a minor act of plagiarism

This is the lamest of all possible cyberpunk dystopian futures

Sep 5, 2017 211 notes
#mitigated future

argumate:

jessandhernewsillyblog:

Leave the DPRK the fuck alone. Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone. 

China’s hawks find their voice as Kim infuriates Beijing

I hope Xi Jinping personally punches Kim Jong Un in the face.

Sep 5, 2017 30 notes
#politics

rendakuenthusiast:

obiternihili:

I feel like you could make a point in a bias/perspective class by ahead of time getting the unfamiliar names down phonetically so that on your first day taking attendance you could make a show by pronouncing their names correctly but mispronouncing all the names like “John Smith”, “Fred Williams” or “Susan McKenzie”.

Just like in a “Hey class there are subtle little shitty things like this that just exist for some people and if I didn’t go out of my way to do this chances are like half of you would never experience it once even though it’s happening like four times a day to everyone else”

“The very presence of foreign immigrants is changing your culture for the worse, Trumpian immigration restrictionism is in your interest”

@obiternihili

@rendakuenthusiast Where the fuck are you getting that? White chicks are able to come with names like Zarowski or Tegan or Kanada or whatever.

I’ll tell you where he’s getting it - this kind of exercise implies that the immigrants would would not have to deal with those terrible, horrible incorrect name pronunciations if the immigrants weren’t in the country, and that the students wouldn’t be experiencing this kind of bias exercise designed to tell them that they’re bad people for not knowing more than a miniscule fraction of the hundreds (if not thousands?) of languages on Earth.

People in the nations of origins of the immigrants may well not pronounce their names right, either.  It hits them with a unidirectional moral weight, unless handled very carefully.

…and it won’t be handled carefully, because SJ is a culture weapon.

People can sense the political intent on an intuitive level - and it is political.

Sep 5, 2017 22 notes
#the culture war #uncharitable #grumpy
bottom of the stinking 9th

stumpyjoepete:

Apropos of nothing, some free-association shitposting:
- Western propaganda with Chinese characteristics
- Disrupt the four olds!
- Have fewer children, raise more pigs*
- Running dogs are pets, not meat! #stopyulin
- Black cat, white cat, if it buys Coca Cola™, it’s a good cat. (Deng Xiaoping, probably)
- 1 billion served and counting
- Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred firms contend
- As Chinese as 老干妈 and 苹果“牌”!

* This one was actually real, bizarrely enough

Sep 5, 2017 16 notes

When talking about monstergirls, we are talking about something that is both greater and lesser than human.  More powerful, sometimes overwhelmingly so, while also more animalistic and wild.  Sexual, enthusiastic, playful.

What men want, the longing in their hearts, is to be wanted.  To be validated, in the only way that masculinity can be.

The straight female fantasy of her own overwhelming desirability taming a terrifying and powerful, yet handsome and charming creature, more masculine than any mere man, and monopolizing it to her own ends, is matched in its male mirror.

Sep 5, 2017 11 notes
#gendpol #monstergirls #im actually twelve monstergirls pretending to be a human blogger #half shtpost
I feel like there should be distinct genres for obviously nonhuman monstergirls (like harpies, the ones with giant snake torsos, Girls From The Black Lagoon assuming that's a thing, it should, that'd be cool) and monstergirls who, though actually nonhuman, use some form of illusion magic or shapeshifting to appear fully human (and possibly their real form isn't even vaguely humanoid). The former is really cool, but the latter is My Thing. I hope that doesn't make me a normie.

This is the kind of Discourse that people come to Tumblr for.

Sep 5, 2017 5 notes
#anons #asks #gendpol #im actually twelve monstergirls pretending to be a human blogger #monstergirls

mitigatedchaos:

Monstergirls are just Paranormal Romance Genre for gynosexuals.

Anyhow, I hope you’re all ready for our glorious sparklevamp x snakewoman future.

Sep 5, 2017 16 notes
#shtpost #gendpol

bluepill: Jobs are not proportional to the country, but to the economy, therefore immigration cannot lower the amounts of jobs as immigration creates demand in addition to supply.

redpill: Jobs are proportional to different sectors and skill levels in the economy, therefore which immigrants enter can create jobs for some while exhausting the employment opportunities for others. Labor is not uniform, and demand for labor is not uniform.

Sep 5, 2017 6 notes
#politics

Broke: Lowering immigration is racist because immigrants are predominantly non-white, and therefore any opposition to immigration necessarily stems from white supremacist racism.

Woke: Not lowering immigration is racist, because bringing in better unskilled or low-skilled employees disproportionately hurts those in our society who are the worst off in terms of health, education, family structure, and contact with the criminal justice system, and that is very much skewed, racially, in our country. Support for mass immigration is just white people showing off how tolerant they are while pushing off the costs on other groups.

Sep 5, 2017 17 notes
#shtpost #politics #uncharitable

Monstergirls are just Paranormal Romance Genre for gynosexuals.

Sep 5, 2017 16 notes
#shtpost #gendpol
NOVA | PBS on Twitter: "The current drug overdose epidemic is killing people at a faster rate than the H.I.V. epidemic at its peak—https://t.co/N37NSREf4g @nytimes"twitter.com

slartibartfastibast:

Yeah but they’re the bad type of skin color so we can safely ignore them and nothing insane will happen.

:<

Sep 5, 2017 22 notes

its-okae-carly-rae:

mitigatedchaos:

@collapsedsquid

Is that more the case in the US which has the worst cost problem than in other parts of the world?  It’s not so much that I doubt the theory as that I question if it matters.

GAAAAARGH

WHY DO SUBWAYS COST SO MUCH HERE

NATIONALSHAME
NATIONALSHAME

The less cynical answer is because you don’t cut-and-cover any more, and NYC at least has geology that makes boring even more expensive than it is most places.

Also I’d guess that every rapid transit system has a bad case of NIH. Not sure if it’s unique to the US but I imagine it’s a factor when you’ve got all this unnecessarily redundant engineering work going on. And that property taxes are low so local governments don’t actually profit from increased land rents which turns mass transit into a weird PR/charity act rather than something economically beneficial to both the populace and the government.

CollapsedSquid’s link is good (and I’ve read it before).  You should read it if you haven’t already.

Sep 5, 2017 7 notes

@collapsedsquid

Is that more the case in the US which has the worst cost problem than in other parts of the world?  It’s not so much that I doubt the theory as that I question if it matters.

GAAAAARGH

WHY DO SUBWAYS COST SO MUCH HERE

NATIONALSHAME
NATIONALSHAME

Sep 5, 2017 7 notes

argumate:

quick: is ‘Millennial’ coded male or female

Yes.

Sep 5, 2017 15 notes
#shtpost #gendpol
Sep 5, 2017 3,414 notes

poipoipoi-2016:

The NYT: We should import millions of immigrants a year, and anything other than open (or at least unenforced) borders is a tremendous moral failing.  

Also the NYT: But if anyone ever builds a housing unit anywhere, this is evil.  

Me: Uh guys, how exactly is this supposed to work?  

Also also the NYT: Oh by the way, we should just deport millions of Americans

Me: Ohhhh…

Me: Trump is totally winning in 2020, isn’t he?  

Sep 4, 2017 17 notes
#politics

argumate:

I guess if you find yourself saying “history will judge me harshly for this, but-” there better be a damn good ending to that sentence

History can judge you harshly for something it shouldn’t if the future is stupid, cruel, or alien.

Sep 4, 2017 146 notes

discoursedrome:

akaltynarchitectonica:

discoursedrome:

wirehead-wannabe:

discoursedrome:

argumate:

it’s disturbing how well PUA concepts apply to business and sales negotiations where you typically have two entitled assholes employing peacocking, negs, shittests, last minute resistance, the whole nine yards.

Yeah, I’ve talked about this before elsewhere – IMO this is actually the central insight of PUA: it’s an attempt to apply salesmanship techniques to courtship and flirting. People often dislike that definition because they want to emphasize how “rapey” PUA is and how it treats other people’s boundaries and wishes as desires to be overcome, but, like, that’s exactly how sales and negotiations work. The fact that we consider it unacceptable when it comes to sex is a rare example of us actually having a high degree of scruples about the matter.

In the context of a business deal, though, there’s rarely an underlying threat that the other party is going to beat, forcibly rape, or even kill you if you don’t comply with what they want. Also I do in fact dislike pushy attempts to get me to buy shit, it’s just not socially acceptable to be rude to salespeople in the way that one might be rude to catcallers.

This is definitely a subtext underlying a lot of sexualized interactions, but I don’t think it explains the attitudes toward PUA specifically, because they really don’t seem to be about this. PUA “game” is about sales tricks, not force, and I get the sense that even a totally misogynistic pick-up artist would disdain relying on the threat of force to achieve success, if only because it demonstrates a lack of skill.

What criticism I’ve seen mostly seems to emphasize that hard-sell techniques and emotional manipulation undermine the legitimacy of consent, violate boundaries, and push people into agreeing to things they might regret later. Those are completely legitimate objections, but they do apply to sales generally.

Most sales decisions are reversable in a way that sex isn’t.

Also, its less tied to people’s particular identities. The quality of a product and the needs of a customer are separate from the person, so people are not as emotionally invested.

Also we have pretty strong norms about where and how it is appropriate to sell things, you can do a hard sale technique at a car dealership or in finance, but you couldn’t o it in a lot of industries, and you certainly can’t do it to random friends and family. (Indeed the stereotype of MLM scams is people selling in inappropriate situations )

This is true, but a lot of the mitigating factors in sales were put there by the government against the wishes of the people doing the selling, and in many cases they’ll go to considerable lengths to prevent people from reversing their decisions. Moreover, I’d say it’s probably easier to wreck your life by buying the wrong thing in the wrong way than it is by fucking the wrong person in the wrong way – unquestionably that’s the case if you discount STD’s. Destroying people’s lives, intentionally violating their boundaries, and otherwise harming and parasitizing the vulnerable in the pursuit of profit is a core component of sales as a field, even though any given sales job may not involve it. This bothers people less than I think it probably should.

With small-scale sales that happen in a designated selling place, I’m much less troubled by it, but there are a lot of sectors of sales where making a bad decision could ruin a person’s life and everything is optimized to make sure that as many people as possible do so. The industries where it’s most acceptable to be predatory are also the ones where it’s most destructive to the mark – car sales and finance are big ones, as you note in your examples. And while things like door-to-door and street sales are stigmatized, they’re certainly not stigmatized anywhere near as much as the equivalent style of flirting. So I think it’s fair to say that there is an actual double standard here, particularly in light of the fact that most PUA stuff seems to happen at places where flirting is considered appropriate.

I don’t exactly know where I’m going with all of this, admittedly. I wouldn’t say salespeople should be viewed as negatively as pick-up artists, or that both are benign. But I will say this much: I think that viewing consent and coercion as topics predominantly related to sexuality and the politics of sex – or of having a completely different standard when applied to those fields – warps our ability to think and talk about them.

Sep 4, 2017 178 notes

argumate:

collapsedsquid:

It’s sort of weird sometimes seeing how cyberpunk works dealt with the relationship between people, corporations, and government.  I always figure it say some interesting things about people’s politics when you see how they construct their cyberpunk world.

One of the weird things I always notice is the status of the government?  Do they still exist?  Are they overtly weaker than the corporations? Being your marxist inspired leftist, I always sort of feel a failure of verisimilitude when corporations overtly take over. The corporation doesn’t want to do the things that government has to do.  It’s great when the government breaks up a riot or strike and the corporation can have clean hands, publicly chastising the government while benefiting from the social order it creates.

Then there’s the issue of mercenaries, the corporate security forces that are ubiquitous in these settings.  I always figure them as having the same problems that Machiavelli identified, namely that mercenaries are shit that will desert you if things go bad and you really need them.  They’re fine for quashing protests, but if it’s devolved to the point of full-scale war, I wouldn’t count on them. To have them be dominant or unstoppable just seems strange.

Finally, there’s the old joke about sufficiently large corporations becoming central planning. If it’s large enough it conducts a lot of it’s business itself, it basically becomes a command economy with all the interesting issues that has.  That’s especially the case for some works where basically everyone works for one corporation.(Although that’s more in weird dystopia than cyberpunk per se.)

But, those issues at one point made me think of something that I can only describe as a syndicalist-inspired megacorporate cyberpunk world.  It’s what you might get as corporations realize they have to take up the slack of governments fully.  You can think of it as if, rather than “Germany”, the region becomes “United German Carmakers” and the ideology and culture of the entire country are bent towards car production.  It would control the ideological institutions, having media and schools tell people that prosperity of the entire nation/corporation is dependent on making cars, basically an attempt to build actual loyalty to a company rather than just the corporation being something you join to pick up some cash.  It could have elections, perhaps using a principle like employee-ownership model but with the problems of bourgeoisie democracy heightened, as your prosperity is linked to that of your department and boss and those are manipulated to keep certain policies on top.  It could become regionless, where you live next to citizens of other corporation/nations and yours basically negotiates the status of citizen-employees with other corporations in a sort of polycentric legal order.  

You would be born into the corporation and would be expected to die there.  I could expect something like a jobs-guarantee, although the jobs at the bottom will probably be shit.  There are all sorts of weird things that you can see as corporations have to take control of issues of legitimacy and defense rather than just inheriting them from the government.  I would expect the corporation itself to become more democratic, even though there may be less democracy in total due to the lack of external government.

And the thing is, I sort of see shades of this in our world.  I chose German carmaking for a reason, Germany’s national pride and economic future is tied to it’s cars at this point and it is very defensive of this industry. And corporations do try and build loyalty beyond simply paying people, I’ve seen retail establishments do what basically amount to loyalty chants and pledges of allegiance, and it was in the news awhile ago that Amazon was basically doing self-criticism sessions that were likened to Maoism. 

I sometimes see bits and pieces of everywhere, and actually the real “Cyberpunk” works seems to have bits and pieces of this type of thing.  It’s actually the cyberpunk-adjacent works that are the worst, those that use a generic corporate future merely as set dressing for their story. But I still see this type of work do things that just seem wrong or impossible, and I do a double-take.

cyberpunk, cyberfolk, cybernumetal

By total coincidence, this squidpost happens to be relevant to what I’m up to now.

Unfortunately, I cannot go into more detail, as segments describing more of the workings of the Pacific Metropolitan Collective Corporation, Outer Hong Kong Metropolity have yet to be posted. However, I do believe that some of those workings would satisfy @collapsedsquid, at least in terms of not being just “lol corps took over k”.

Sep 4, 2017 75 notes
#whiteout #mitigated fiction
  • me: *posts something online*
  • me: now we wait for The Validation™ that i ordered
  • me two minutes later: wHERE IS IT
Sep 4, 2017 88,485 notes
So, as I don't have a tumblr account, in lieu of likes I wanted to tell you: I really enjoyed what I read of Whiteout, and look forward to you publishing more. Also, I'm not sure what topwebfiction rules has for stories on tumblr, but maybe look into it?

This is interesting, since it means that people without Tumblr accounts are either following my blog or being referred to Whiteout, and I have no way to gauge the number of them.

I’ll keep that ranking site in mind, Anon.

Sep 4, 2017 2 notes
#anons #asks #mitigated fiction #whiteout
So uh... about these hurricanes

poipoipoi-2016:

So there’s been this interesting pattern where the places that are habitable after global warming are also the places with housing restrictions.  

At which point everyone despairs of ever living in the 80 degree parts of LA and moves to 120 degree Vegas at a tenth the price.  (Or at least the 109 degree parts of LA a couple mountain ranges away).   

And right now, it sure looks like the fastest growing cities and regions in the country are either the sort of place where an extra 5F gets people killed or the sort of place where you get semi-regular hurricanes.  

So uh… what happens when people try to flee north and can’t?  

Sep 4, 2017 25 notes

akaltynarchitectonica:

wirehead-wannabe:

mitigatedchaos:

I think the distinction that people don’t make is that…

  1. For a woman, sometimes you can get a man to fight for you, so it makes sense to get him to take on all that risk himself.
  2. For a woman, the upper body strength distribution is almost bimodal, so it makes even more sense not to fight and send a man instead if you might end up fighting a man.
  3. Society often treats women and their violence as harmless.  (The flip side of the glass ceiling.)

So if you have a high stress situation consisting only of women, isolated from society and from men, it may well get violent.

Do we have any actual statistics on rates of violence in all-female societies?

All girls schools seem the obvious test case. A quick google gives me one article saying that violent bullying is worse in all femae schools, but other studies say the opposite. Confounders are a problem obviously. But at the very least the numbers  are close enough that there isn’t conclusive evidence. There’s some interesting stuff saying that bullying for not conforming to gender stereotypes is less bad in single sex environments, but that doesn’t necessarily say anything about the total levels

Sep 4, 2017 35 notes
#gendpol

That, and of course, one must notice that selling to China often results in knock-offs or even the business shifting over entirely to China and being replaced in the long run. I believe there are already aircraft appearing that are suspiciously similar to Boeings.

Sep 4, 2017 3 notes

mutant-aesthetic:

like if all you had to do was make a one-time payment to get someone who will do all of the most menial labor possible for you for the rest of their existence in this mortal coil I bet virtually every single one of you fuckers would be on board

y’all just too pussy to admit it

It’s called an androgynoid and you can buy one from Mitsubishi Heavy Industr-

*ahem* Sorry, my information is out of time.  Please ignore this message.

Sep 3, 2017 17 notes
#augmented reality break #chronofelony

collapsedsquid:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

invertedporcupine:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

So, recent news brings an interesting question to mind, would a total cessation of US-China trade be worse for the US than a single thermonuclear missile strike on the US mainland?

Well, we’d have “less money”, but hiring would go through the roof, national sovereignty would increase, and less than one million people would die (probably - difficult to calculate secondary economic effects of what would be an across-the-board price increase), so…

I’m pretty sure that both the US and China are reliant on the other for things that they can’t actually replace autarchically even at much higher prices (e.g. certain rare earth metals for the US, a lot of IP for China).  The adjustment would be pretty steep.

Think it’s the expertise that would be killer. I suspect are whole ranges of manufacturing activities that nobody in the US knows how to do anymore, could be decades before we can do them competently again.

You’s also have the problem of what this would to to southeast asia in general.  We may not intend to cut off trade with the rest, but this is the sort of move that could lead to the entire region being cut off to US trade. I guess we didn’t really need computers anyways.

The problem when they went to build a smartphone in the US was not “no Americans know how to build a smartphone”, it was “we lack a sufficiently large and redundant supply chain to respond quickly to unexpected issues, because there isn’t a sufficient density of smartphone component manufacturers.”

This isn’t just “we’re building a new product“ this is “We are taking over all production of all existing products.“  This is an orders-of-magnitude difference..

Sure, but aside from the fact that there are still lots of countries that aren’t China (including Taiwan, which is not China China) to import from, I think the issue is less “lack of expertise” and inability to build computers, than it is the necessary volume of capital expenditures to build all the new plants and buy all the new robots necessary to fill those plants.  And we still do a lot of manufacturing here.  Manufacturing revenue in the US is up, it’s manufacturing employment that’s down.

I’m not sure it would even be all that much of an increase in price for consumers after the capital expenditures are complete.  We’re probably already headed towards manufacture-on-demand programmable modular factories closer to the sites of sale, and this might just accelerate the trend.

Sep 3, 2017 25 notes
#the invisible fist #politics

collapsedsquid:

invertedporcupine:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

So, recent news brings an interesting question to mind, would a total cessation of US-China trade be worse for the US than a single thermonuclear missile strike on the US mainland?

Well, we’d have “less money”, but hiring would go through the roof, national sovereignty would increase, and less than one million people would die (probably - difficult to calculate secondary economic effects of what would be an across-the-board price increase), so…

I’m pretty sure that both the US and China are reliant on the other for things that they can’t actually replace autarchically even at much higher prices (e.g. certain rare earth metals for the US, a lot of IP for China).  The adjustment would be pretty steep.

Think it’s the expertise that would be killer. I suspect are whole ranges of manufacturing activities that nobody in the US knows how to do anymore, could be decades before we can do them competently again.

You’s also have the problem of what this would to to southeast asia in general.  We may not intend to cut off trade with the rest, but this is the sort of move that could lead to the entire region being cut off to US trade. I guess we didn’t really need computers anyways.

The problem when they went to build a smartphone in the US was not “no Americans know how to build a smartphone”, it was “we lack a sufficiently large and redundant supply chain to respond quickly to unexpected issues, because there isn’t a sufficient density of smartphone component manufacturers.”

Sep 3, 2017 25 notes
we're actually an art collective out of Alaska, we've blocked all others from submitting anons from your Tumblr so that we can use your blog as an elaborate method to comment on the Discourse. each post is printed and hand-cut on posterboard for the eventual pamphlet airdrop over D. Trizzle

this gives me humdrum existence a depth and meaning I never anticipated nor indeed ever wanted

Sep 3, 2017 23 notes
#arguasks

invertedporcupine:

mitigatedchaos:

collapsedsquid:

So, recent news brings an interesting question to mind, would a total cessation of US-China trade be worse for the US than a single thermonuclear missile strike on the US mainland?

Well, we’d have “less money”, but hiring would go through the roof, national sovereignty would increase, and less than one million people would die (probably - difficult to calculate secondary economic effects of what would be an across-the-board price increase), so…

I’m pretty sure that both the US and China are reliant on the other for things that they can’t actually replace autarchically even at much higher prices (e.g. certain rare earth metals for the US, a lot of IP for China).  The adjustment would be pretty steep.

We had rare earth mining in America, it just shut down because China was cheaper.

Sep 3, 2017 25 notes

collapsedsquid:

So, recent news brings an interesting question to mind, would a total cessation of US-China trade be worse for the US than a single thermonuclear missile strike on the US mainland?

Well, we’d have “less money”, but hiring would go through the roof, national sovereignty would increase, and less than one million people would die (probably - difficult to calculate secondary economic effects of what would be an across-the-board price increase), so…

Sep 3, 2017 25 notes
How about putting Whiteout on Fictionpress, as it's original content?

I’m considering what I want to do with it later, whether I want to publish in other locations or on a website of my own, and so on.  Aside from the fact that I’ll be starting a new part-time job soon, I’ve set it to update once per week so that I have time to mull over this decision.  

Sep 3, 2017 5 notes
#mitigated fiction
How about putting Whiteout on Fictionpress, as it's original content?

I’m considering what I want to do with it later, whether I want to publish in other locations or on a website of my own, and so on.  Aside from the fact that I’ll be starting a new part-time job soon, I’ve set it to update once per week so that I have time to mull over this decision.  

Sep 3, 2017 5 notes
#mitigated fiction
How about putting Whiteout on Fictionpress, as it's original content?

I’m considering what I want to do with it later, whether I want to publish in other locations or on a website of my own, and so on.  Aside from the fact that I’ll be starting a new part-time job soon, I’ve set it to update once per week so that I have time to mull over this decision.  

Sep 3, 2017 5 notes
#whiteout #mitigated fiction #anons #asks

Sometimes we’ll get “look, straight neurotypical women don’t *really* want a man that will perform masculinity, her boyfriend is wearing a pink shirt!” but then the dude is tall, buff, and confident, and he works in construction - the kind of man for whom a pink shirt shows that he is so masculine that wearing a pink shirt doesn’t harm his aura of masculinity, and thus further proves his masculinity.

Sep 3, 2017 39 notes
#gendpol

obiternihili:

mitigatedchaos:

celestialmechanic:

Evidence has shown that guys are actually really good at things we happen to find meaningful and prestigious, whereas girls are only good at meaningless, frivolous things. Only people who think testosterone literally doesn’t exist would doubt this very scientific conclusion.

Sex routinely judged as mates by earning power, social status, seek jobs with high earning power, prestige, work greater hours. Sex that has tendency to select opposite sex based on earning power and social status baffled.

That would make more sense as an “uncharitable interpretation” if A) it didn’t happen basically equally both ways, or equivalently if sons inherited nothing from their mothers and vice versa B) hunter-gatherer societies where we did most of the whole “evolving the parts of us that make us human” weren’t generally egalitarian, with basically every break from that pattern having to do with the introduction of agriculture.


I can’t help but wonder how much of this is eurocentrism anyways. Like ancient Rome was not a good place to be a woman, but intelligence and nobility were very desirable traits in young girls. Men were expected to continue their wife’s education both for their mutual benefit and as a means to bond over, but also for the secondary effects having the person doing one’s own primary caretaking be educated can do.

The Egyptians worshiped Isis - not just because she was a mother, but because she was cunning, a witch in pretty much every sense of the word who managed to trick Atum into giving her his Secret Name - something no other being in existence knows because of its creative potential - but also managed to be the primary agent in avenging her murdered husband and propelling her son to take back the throne after trekking around everywhere from Nubia to Lebanon.

“Women are more desirable stupid” is not a historically common thing, and “Men are more desirable smart” is not mutually exclusive with “Women are more desirable smart”

Like your sarcastic comeback works equally whether or not you substitute (male,female) or (female,male) and that’s got to be telling of something, isn’t it?

That isn’t the same thing as stupid women being more desirable than smart women. Even traditionalists like Mailadreapta will acknowledge this. Not putting a trait at maximum priority does not mean putting it at negative priority.

Quite frankly, observing the mismatch in what straight neurotypical women say they want vs who they actually date means it will take a lot to convince me otherwise.

Sep 3, 2017 38 notes
#gendpol

whiteoutstory:

wbqotd:

Does your setting have a flag or other emblem to represent it? If it does, describe it. 

Flag of Pacific Metropolitan Collective (PacMet) Metropolity Outer Hong Kong (2062)

[ WHITEOUT on Tumblr ]

Sep 3, 2017 41 notes
#whiteout

celestialmechanic:

Evidence has shown that guys are actually really good at things we happen to find meaningful and prestigious, whereas girls are only good at meaningless, frivolous things. Only people who think testosterone literally doesn’t exist would doubt this very scientific conclusion.

Sex routinely judged as mates by earning power, social status, seek jobs with high earning power, prestige, work greater hours. Sex that has tendency to select opposite sex based on earning power and social status baffled.

Sep 3, 2017 38 notes
#gendpol #uncharitable

argumate:

geez people who think China is “worker controlled” because the rich dudes in power occasionally fuck up other rich dudes as part of their rich dude vendettas is just great, I’d say something snarky but that would just get dismissed as an imperialist CIA talking point.

Imagine being a true believer while in China.

Sep 3, 2017 25 notes

shieldfoss:

mitigatedchaos:

@rendakuenthusiast

It’s weird that most people don’t pretend to be the other gender online, honestly.

Eh, there’s still existing gender conformity rules (though more for men than for women) saying not to do it, plus I think a lot more people are vaguely comfortable in their gender roles than they let on.

Not that I don’t recommend it.  I have many faces, and I like to let people assume.

If you end up being the person running the @argumate account, I am going to be livid.

We are all running the Argumate account, ShieldFoss. The steady and unrestrained stream of anons assures that the Argumate blog is a democratic and participatory process.

Sep 3, 2017 72 notes
#shtpost

I wanted to make a joke about how half the right wing blogs I check in on are gay men or cross-dressers, but then one of those blogs vanished today and I’m actually kinda worried about the guy because he posted something about having pissed someone off.

Sep 3, 2017 3 notes

collapsedsquid:

Getting annoyed at some of the free speech stuff because people making grandstanding points about it in matters that are sort of orthogonal to principles of free speech.

Fraud is free speech, conspiracy is free speech, threats are free speech!  Everything I do is free speech and therefore can’t be interfered with as long as I include some sort of racial slur. 

Isn’t that always the problem when everyone only wants free speech only for their own side?

Sep 3, 2017 5 notes
#politics

mailadreapta:

mitigatedchaos:

China couldn’t be bothered to reign in North Korea, so now Japan’s going to have a nuclear triad and remilitarize, quite possibly.

And no doubt the Chinagov’s gonna pitch a fit over this, which is on some level their fault.

On reread I think you meant ‘rein in NK’, nonetheless I prefer the reading that China should have just exerted imperial influence.

Sep 3, 2017 14 notes
#politics #i'm tired lol

@rendakuenthusiast

It’s weird that most people don’t pretend to be the other gender online, honestly.

Eh, there’s still existing gender conformity rules (though more for men than for women) saying not to do it, plus I think a lot more people are vaguely comfortable in their gender roles than they let on.

Not that I don’t recommend it.  I have many faces, and I like to let people assume.

Sep 3, 2017 72 notes
#gendpol

I think the distinction that people don’t make is that…

  1. For a woman, sometimes you can get a man to fight for you, so it makes sense to get him to take on all that risk himself.
  2. For a woman, the upper body strength distribution is almost bimodal, so it makes even more sense not to fight and send a man instead if you might end up fighting a man.
  3. Society often treats women and their violence as harmless.  (The flip side of the glass ceiling.)

So if you have a high stress situation consisting only of women, isolated from society and from men, it may well get violent.

Sep 3, 2017 35 notes
#gendpol

China couldn’t be bothered to reign in North Korea, so now Japan’s going to have a nuclear triad and remilitarize, quite possibly.

And no doubt the Chinagov’s gonna pitch a fit over this, which is on some level their fault.

Sep 3, 2017 14 notes
#politics

argumate:

argumate:

One must also commit to the idea that autism is equally prevalent in both men and women and simply underdiagnosed for women, and that the reason young girls are typically better at masking the syndromes is purely due to socialisation and cultural factors.

silver-and-ivory said: I mean I think this might be true

anaisnein said: using today’s relatively broad definition of autism, this seems completely intuitively obvious to me, tbh

timtotal said: yeah, this seems entirely reasonable?

One could perhaps test this by looking at children diagnosed at very early ages due to being nonverbal, which seems less likely to be confounded by socialisation issues.

Then there are gender differences in schizophrenia, which presents at different ages and at different rates.

The hypothesis being put forwards is that you can tell nothing about the preferences, psychology, or personality of a group based on their genetic or physical attributes alone without knowing their culture and socialisation.

(The weaker version of this hypothesis is that you can, but the information is so weak as to be useless).

It would be convenient, but seems scarcely credible.

Presumably age at least has a measurable statistical impact, even if gender does not.

Well, we know that testosterone is not a placebo.  The idea that it could have no impact on the relative rates of various mental illnesses seems, to me, absurd.

Sep 3, 2017 37 notes
#gendpol

ranma-official:

argumate:

rendakuenthusiast:

“THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS” being airbrushed onto the side of a soviet tank in russian

THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS AND ANYONE ELSE STANDING WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED METRES, IT’S NOT VERY DISCRIMINATING being painted onto bombers

“THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS” being engraved onto the side of the abstract concept of mortality

Sep 3, 2017 66 notes
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