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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
rtrixie
steel-kun

“How many layers of soulless, commodified and forced cultural and religious amalgamation are you on?”
“idk, like maybe 3 or 4?”
“You are like a little baby. Watch this”

huntrad

Why can not these people just start a religion, so i can hate it and i dont need to describe them every time i hatepost about them?

official-barron-trump

shit man a dream catcher and a yin yang, we’re RUINING THE AMERINDIANS AND ASIANS

anti-sjw-movement

When what you’re fighting for is so ridiculous you talk shit about a cheap novelty gift most likely made in China.

caughtindacrossfire

Inb4 she blocks you.

steel-kun

So this post has been tagged as “#sjw” by the usual suspects, showing once more that this site continues to be tone deaf across the entire political spectrum.
Perhaps the strangest, but not uncharacteristic response to this post was the unwarranted speculation that I’m somehow fighting for anything. My post contained no calls to action or even the suggestion of politics. I’m not part of the cultural appropriation hysterics crowd, and consistent with that I’m not calling for anything to be forbidden or sanctioned or to be racially or culturally policed. Perhaps we can focus on the things I wrote in the fairly short post, which shouldn’t be a challenge to read and digest, or so one would assume.
I pointed out what I called “soulless, commodified and forced cultural and religious amalgamation“. Each of those words is important, more so than buzzwords that I didn’t use. The example should serve to illustrate all of those.
First of all, that it’s a cheap novelty gift item is part of the issue. Both the tajitu symbol (often known as “a yin yang” among people who have a surface level of engagement and interest in Chinese culture) and the dreamcatcher are meaningful items that derive their meaning from associated spiritual beliefs. The tajitu illustrates the (primarily) Daoist concept of metaphysics, the idea that all apparent dualities emerge from one monadic principle. Dreamcatchers are tied to Ojibwe religion and are a concrete manifestation of a protective deity (the Spider Woman).
You might notice that we’re not talking about the proverbial sausage added to mapo dofu, the strawman employed to imply that the opponent thinks culture will be destroyed if it’s combined with something foreign. Not a profane item like food or casua clothes or technology, each of these items has a specific, self-contained meaning, and each of them is tied to the spiritual beliefs of a specific group. Fact aside that these hence sacred and meaningful objects have been turned into “cheap novelty gifts” (hence, commodified), by combining them for aesthetics they lose their meaning. How is this object still a Daoist religious item? How is it still an Ojibwe cultural item? The only meaning and message this item conveys now is that of a commodified aesthetical item that is mainly meant to signal its owners attachment to non-western (and this is why whether the item carries Chinese or Ojibwe cultural connotation is moot) New Age liberal conceptions of harmonic and enlightened Others. Hence, it’s soulless - the two original items have lost their meaning, their potential for people to meaningfully relate to them, and have become a product that has a limited, commodified, self-masturbatory message.
Finally, this item is a forced amalgamate because it is not the result of genuine, authentic cultural innovation and interplay and bricolage. You have been spending too much time arguing with fourteen year olds socialized in a hysterical, authoritarian environment, who might have made you believe that the only opposition to cultural syncreticism and innovation are leftist kids who want ethnocultural safe spaces. This is likely why you did not address the points in my post and went straight for the “SJW” arguments you brought with you.
Consequently, you are uncritical about the fact that his is indeed a wholesale enterprise that is marketing these products because they know that in the US and elsewhere, enough green tea-drinking “spiritual but not religious” sufferers of colonial cringe desperate for an identity or two will buy the idea of a mystical, enlightened Other that is vaguely defined (Chinese? Indian? Native American? all the same, right?) but if at all then from western ideas of progressivism.

In closing I would like to stress that if I did not suggest this should be banned or forbidden or at all acted against, I do very explicitly say that this kind of uncritical and callous display of neutered, meaning-bereft symbols applies to the lowest common denominator and is helpful in marking individuals who you might otherwise have wasted time on socializing with. It is in this spirit that I would like to share the link to the item in question as well as the store (in Delhi, India) so that you can buy those, and maybe epically spite some top kek SJWs along the way.

Parting words: I’m a dude, but you do you when it comes to your likely logicd/mrcappadocian line of thought that someone who raises a point agsint the commodification of culture, be it from the left or the right, can only possibly a woman.

rtrixie

The only meaning and message this item conveys now is that of a commodified aesthetical item that is mainly meant to signal its owners attachment to non-western (and this is why whether the item carries Chinese or Ojibwe cultural connotation is moot) New Age liberal conceptions of harmonic and enlightened Others. 

Sums it up well

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collapsedsquid
argumate

I wouldn’t put it past the Americans to institute public healthcare by way of compulsory military service so that everyone is nominally a veteran.

collapsedsquid

Making welfare programs politically legitimate through national service is an idea that gets floated around everyone once in a while.  Also as a way to allow welfare for immigrants while also allowing free movement.

mitigatedchaos

This blog is in favor of both welfare and national service.

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ranma-official

Anonymous asked:

"I think the key problem is the idea of ownership of the child." I see what you're getting at here, but I think it's pretty heavily misguided. Insofar as children can't take care of themselves, *someone* has to own them, and I trust the average parent to do that significantly more than I trust the state to do that - the state being the de facto owner of the child if parents are cut out of the picture.

ranma-official answered:

I don’t think the concept of complete ownership of the child, or any human, is necessary. It is enough that parents bear full responsibility for the child and all of their actions. For example, death due to malnourishment because the child refused to eat would still be the fault of the parents.

Remember, it used to be legal and within the window for parents to make their children get a job (labor, not chores) while being entitled to all of its profit.

Remember how I wrote about “mommy makes me go to church” implying a history of abuse? Remember what I said about Russian communists being very concerned that the state will come in and take their children away just because they abuse them?

We need better orphanages and social services, not more locked down families. Jesus, everyone except triggeredmedia figured out that divorce is good because it gives failing families an out. Juvenal justice is the same thing.
mitigatedchaos

@anon  here, have this alternative take that should be less dangerous than “parents own their children”: 

https://mitigatedchaos.tumblr.com/post/158444654232/the-trustee-model-of-child-care

If this sounds like some bullshit they’d pull in Singapore, that’s not an accident.

Sovereignty is won by force.  Every murder, every bombing, every acid attack undermines the legitimacy of the government.  Why listen to the government when someone else could kill you just as easily?

The mighty iron hand of the Singaporean state would not let such a thing go so easily.  It would seek to crush such opposition.

These behaviors can be stopped at the margins, if they are stopped now.  Otherwise, this is the future you choose.

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theunitofcaring
theunitofcaring

I think white supremacists lean really hard on the framing that they’re not destroying peaceful integrated multicultural societies, they’re just noticing that those never existed anyway or are about to collapse anyway. 

And of course it’s a transparent lie. There are lots and lots of societies that have had successful peaceful integration. Racists and xenophobes are the force making integration difficult and dangerous and fragile; there’s not some other force that they are just innocently noticing. (Bad economic conditions and weak governments and violence all contribute to making racist and xenophobic movements more appealing. But it’s important to observe that the ‘failure of multiculturalism’ is still caused by the racists and xenophobes acting, it’s not something that happens separately from them.)

mitigatedchaos

Look, it’s true that Europe is not on the verge of a race war.  They are not one more bombing away from all the white people mysteriously obtaining guns and launching a new “crusade” against the “saracens” amongst them.  (They might be on the verge of the breakup of the EU.)

On the other hand, just because there is relative order does not mean things are as safe as they could be.  What’s going on right now looks more like “ethnic tension.”  When open Atheists get killed by vigilantes in Islamic countries it isn’t something you encounter on the street, usually.  Likewise, when you see low-level violence it’s often going to be in low-SES areas, not where the tourists are.  And, of course, that white guy making a van attack against seven random Muslims in response to van attacks by Muslims is more like an ethnic revenge killing in less-developed nations than a declaration of war.

And yes, it’s statistically improbable that you will be killed in the next concert bombing, and technically people should be more worried about falling furniture or whatever, but…  The marginal costs are totally out of whack here, everyone knows these bombings are entirely unnecessary while it is pretty much inevitable that some people will die in furniture accidents no matter how hard you try.

Plus we all know that if the terrorists get their hands on an atomic bomb, they will vaporize New York.  Furniture would never do this.

(We can also tell that the terrorism either isn’t really about stopping interference in the middle east, or that the terrorists are literally too stupid or ideological to realize what they’re doing isn’t working, because it has been very, very ineffective at that goal.  Like, “the Bush Administration was able to get the American public to back the Iraq War” spectacularly ineffective.  So “tolerate harder” is unlikely to stop it.)


Here is the problem.  Multiculturalism as ideology makes for weak governments.

Wanting to maximize diversity is a non-sensical goal that should result in trying to create as many ethnic groups as there are people.  All this “we need more diversity” and “celebrate diversity” stuff is like a religious law that was adaptive and then lost its usefulness but continued on because people didn’t follow it for its adaptiveness.

The real purpose of tolerance as a construct was to prevent continued justifications of war in Europe along religious lines, or something of that kind.  It’s a social technology, not a virtue.

It is necessary to recognize the differences among cultures, and act accordingly.  Liberalizing social atomization can only occur naturally if cultural forces/practices create the necessary environment.  

With its “antiracism” and “decolonization” and opposition to assimilation, multiculturalism as ideology is actively preventing this.

You have to consider how different cultures propagate and support themselves.  So that means, if you want to end this nonsense, well…

  • Ban cousin marriage, out to the second or even third degree.  How exactly do these families keep such tight control on “their” women that they think that they own them?  Well, being able to arrange marriages without even leaving the family might have something to do with it!  Having to marry farther out means women must be given more freedom in practical terms, which will loosen and help eventually destroy their grasp.
  • Refuse to accept the legalization of polygamy.  Polygamy is actually polygyny in practice usually, particularly in the countries these groups are coming from.  The child marriage, patriarchal control of women, all of that flows from the gender ratio imbalance under polygamy.  Polygamy is bad for women, it is bad for children, it is bad for wealth and for education.  Even in the West.
  • Execute honor killers.  Yes, I know, but we want to put the brakes on this now before it sticks.  The key is to flip the social status of honor killers from “something those oppressive ethnic majority members stop us from doing and which we will resist” to “you’d have to be a fucking idiot to kill your sister and get executed for it.”
  • Make killing anyone for leaving a religion a hate crime.  Again, it’s  a method of control that prevents liberalizing atomization.  If that isn’t enough, if people still kill others for leaving Islam, execute them.
  • Stiffer penalties for FGM and acid attacks.  Not only are these methods that those communities use to reinforce their control and prevent atomization, but acid attacks have started catching on among the natives.  Political pressure not to crack down on FGM must be stopped in its tracks before it can reach the critical theshold to be co-opted by political parties.
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argumate
ozymandias271

I’m going to start a new political party. It’s the Human Rights Abuses Are Bad party, and our platform is that we don’t like human rights abuses. I understand from this election cycle that this is a controversial opinion but I think it has a lot of merit

argumate

if you vote for the Human Rights Abuses Are Bad party then people will die

mitigatedchaos

Actually, politics pretty much always involves deciding who is going to die.

That might be violent criminals, that might be cops, that might be dudes who are not violent criminals that get killed by cops anyway.  That might be cancer patients who die because you didn’t immediately seize all wealth to use for treating cancer.  That might be future patients that die because you seized all wealth, undermining new treatment development.

Even if you get rid of the state, that, too, is a decision about who will die.

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ranma-official
taxloopholes

me: I love multiplayer because you get to compete and interact with people

men on multiplayer: umm what are you doing outside the kitchen bitch?? make me a sandwich! also send nudes LOL!

me: I hate multiplayer

sunpyg-senpai

You sound like you’ve never actually played multiplayer in your life.

taxloopholes

if you talk about your experience with men on multiplayer you’re a FAKE gamer girl

snommelp

OP: *incredibly realistic scenario*
Some tool: I’ve never experienced something like that. Must be fake.

ranma-official

What part of this scenario is at all realistic?

mitigatedchaos

Some games just have shtty cultures.  14-yos trying to prove masculinity are pretty cringey.  Other games are chill.

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