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“Jeremy Corbyn tried to pass through a law that would required private landlords to make their homes safe and “fit for human habitation” last year – but it was rejected by the Conservatives.

Labour proposed an amendment to the Government’s new Housing and Planning Bill – a raft of new laws aimed at reforming housing law – in January last year, but it was rejected by 312 votes to 219.

According to Parliament’s register of interests, 72 of the MPs who voted against the amendment were themselves landlords who derive an income from a property.”

happinessisnotalwaysfun

Whatever you think about the man as an individual or politician, he sure is on the right side of history a lot.

voxette-vk

More regulations driving up the cost of housing <—-> Right side of history

argumate

the regulation about not cladding the outside of high rise buildings in flammable material tho

having sufficient fire escapes

for that matter fire alarms

very poor choice of example of regulatory harm

mitigatedchaos

I’m sure our dear Voxette wouldn’t mind losing the regulations in favor of requiring all landlords to carry insurance against the death or debilitating injury to occupants with a cap at $1 million per occupant, reflecting the cost to the rest of society of people dying in unsafe housing. After all, it would be terribly immoral to give the landlords a subsidy, right?

They will of course also be required to carry sufficient insurance for neighboring buildings. It wouldn’t be very fair if they got away with a huge fire burning down someone else’s property just because they were bankrupt.

argumate

Right, and the insurance company needs to prove that it can actually cover these policies, which requires them to inspect the properties and regulate their safety, such as not covering the exterior with fuckin’ inflammable cladding.

You’re going to get regulation one way or another.

xhxhxhx

The Landlord and Tenant Act 1985, section 8, required landlords to guarantee that their homes were fit for human habitation, but only where rents were £80 or less (in London) or £52 or less (elsewhere). Jeremy Corbyn wanted to eliminate the cap.

But I’m not sure that the property in question would be “unfit” under the Landlord and Tenant Act. Section 10 indicates that the standard for “fitness for human habitation” is determined in respect of enumerated matters. Houses are regarded as unfit for human habitation if and only if they are defective in one or more of the enumerated matters:

In determining for the purposes of this Act whether a house is unfit for human habitation, regard shall be had to its condition in respect of the following matters—

  • repair,
  • stability,
  • freedom from damp,
  • internal arrangement,
  • natural lighting,
  • ventilation,
  • water supply,
  • drainage and sanitary conveniences,
  • facilities for preparation and cooking of food and for the disposal of waste water;

and the house shall be regarded as unfit for human habitation if, and only if, it is so far defective in one or more of those matters that it is not reasonably suitable for occupation in that condition.

If the house is not defective in one or more of these enumerated matters, the house cannot be condemned as unfit for human habitation. “Flammability” is not on this list. Nor is “hazard to human life.” It isn’t clear that the enumerated matters include anything that would have condemned this residence: If the residence was constructed with flammable materials, there was no defect of “repair.” If the residence was stable, there was no defect of “stability.”

If “repair” or “stability” under section 10 include fire hazards, then there are few principled reasons why the landlords should not also be caught under section 11 of the Landlord and Tenant Act, which is unaffected by inflation, which requires short-term lessors undertake to:

(a) to keep in repair the structure and exterior of the dwelling-house (including drains, gutters and external pipes),

(b) to keep in repair and proper working order the installations in the dwelling-house for the supply of water, gas and electricity and for sanitation (including basins, sinks, baths and sanitary conveniences, but not other fixtures, fittings and appliances for making use of the supply of water, gas or electricity), and

© to keep in repair and proper working order the installations in the dwelling-house for space heating and heating water.

If “repair” or “stability” include flammability, then the housing here should be condemned because it had failed to “repair the structure and exterior of the dwelling-house”.

The language of section 10 is less impressive. There is no declaration that the house is “unfit for human habitation” if the landlord fails to abide by section 11. But no one has any statutory authority to condemn the house in section 10, either. The Landlord and Tenant Act didn’t empower anyone to go around condemning houses or forbidding sales.

All it did was this:

In a contract to which this section applies for the letting of a house for human habitation there is implied, notwithstanding any stipulation to the contrary—

(a) a condition that the house is fit for human habitation at the commencement of the tenancy, and

(b) an undertaking that the house will be kept by the landlord fit for human habitation during the tenancy.

If the landlord failed to comply with section 10, he was in breach of a statutory and contractual duty. There might be some action for damages or specific performance. There might be some action for negligence if house caught flame. Do you know what else would be grounds for such a suit? If the landlord failed to keep the property in good repair.

But those actions would lie with the landlords and tenants, who have the contract, not with any public authority. You can’t sue to enforce a contract you’re not privy to. The Landlord and Tenant Act doesn’t grant any statutory authority to prevent any sale or lease from happening. It doesn’t even have an inspection regime.

Do you know what does have an inspections regime? The Housing Act 1985. In section 604, the Housing Act includes the very same language that was included in the Landlord and Tenant Act:

The difference was that section 10 of the Landlord and Tenant Act created an implied covenant between landlords and tenants. Section 604 of the Housing Act set the terms by which local housing authorities could condemn houses as unfit for human habitation, which they were empowered to do by section 606:

This was the public regulation regime to complement the private regulation under the Landlord and Tenant Act. But if you look for sections 604 and 606 in the Housing Act 2004, you won’t find them. If you look for “unfit for human habitation”, you won’t find it anywhere. Why? Because sections 604 and 606 were replaced by a regime that covered fire safety.

The House of Commons Library explains:

The ‘old’ Housing Fitness Standard 

Prior to the introduction of the HHSRS housing fitness was governed by section 604 of the 1985 Housing Act. Section 604 embodied a pass or fail test of housing fitness based on similar considerations to those set out in section 10 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985. Where a local authority identified a property as unfit it had a duty to take action; it was left to the authority to decide upon the most appropriate course of action. A number of problems were identified with the Housing Fitness Standard. Some of the most serious health and safety hazards, including fire hazards and fall hazards, were not covered by the standard. In addition, it was seen by some as a blunt instrument that could only pass or fail a house, and therefore sometimes did not distinguish between defective dwellings and genuine health and safety hazards.

So there we have our answer: the amendment wouldn’t have covered flammability, wouldn’t have prevented rentals, wouldn’t have been enforceable by statutory authorities, and wouldn’t have empowered an inspection or sanctions regime. It wouldn’t have granted anything but a private right of action, which they should have had anyways. 

The United Kingdom already has statutory authorities empowered to inspect houses for safety – the local housing authorities empowered by the Housing Act 2004 and the Housing Health and Safety Rating System (England) Regulations 2005 to inspect and condemn houses where “exposure to uncontrolled fire” (reg. 3(1)(24)) might result in “death from any cause” (reg. 2(1)(a)). Under section 5 of the Housing Act 2004, local housing authorities had a duty to take action.

It seems the fault here lies with the Housing Act regulators, not the unamended Landlord and Tenant Act 1985.

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eggcup

concept of a thieves guild: cool

reality of a thieves guild: tumblr shoplifting fandom 

blackblocberniebros

This post is just petty-bourgeois whining about how real rebellion is dirty and morally implicating and doesn’t live up to the romantic fantasies they had about it.

Long live the lifting fandom.

papa-problems

actively harming workers by stealing from sephora as communist praxis

blackblocberniebros

“Actively harming”

Nice wildly misleading language you got there, where’d you learn it, the cop store?

ranma-official

Workers are tasked with preventing theft

If you steal shit, it’s docked from their pay or they get fired
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collapsedsquid

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

mitigatedchaos

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

collapsedsquid

None of them are serious, but one thing that might make them serious apart from worsening demographic crisis is some sort of artificial gestation.  Carrying a child right now is a deeply personal act, if you had this then technology then it might not be.  Would that change things? 

You’re right though, it sort of sits awkwardly with the ideas of the liberal state where we’re all individuals.  If you’re going to bring people into existence as an act of policy, then I think you either need some sort of strong commitment to welfare of said people or some sort of greater cause that both the people and the state are in service to in order to make the system have legitimacy.  If a state literally raises a generation and then there is no job for them, then “personal responsibility“ doesn’t really cut it.

At this point though, I’m not convinced either way on whether boring welfare state solutions like child benefits and universal child care wouldn’t solve the problem though.  Those don’t require a fundamental re-orientation of the relationship between a citizen and the state and can be done in a theoretically liberal way, but they do require things we seem to be unable to do right now.

poipoipoi-2016

You need to be run by Republicans. I’m not joking.

Because Republicans have policies that create affordable families, and Democrats don’t.

collapsedsquid

Uhh, policy ideas like child benefits, paid higher education, providing healthcare for minors, paid family leave?

poipoipoi-2016

Republicans have affordable housing.  Which means you can have that third/fourth bedroom, that short commute, and extra money left for the extra food.  

Also, Republicans have early and long-running marriages.  (The direction of causation I leave to you)

collapsedsquid

The demographic transition is a world-wide phenomenon of developed countries, not a peculiarity caused by US home prices.

poipoipoi-2016

Fair enough. 

But the hardest causation in American politics is the amount of time that white women* spend married to Republican vote share.  And Red states do have notably higher fertility.  (Not, you know, African levels, but 2.3 vs. 1.8).  

* I mean, it might also be true for minorities, but when that flips the black vote from 85% to 95%…

collapsedsquid

What that is saying is that the demographic transition has not yet totally sweeped the US.

mitigatedchaos

The US is actually less developed in some ways. This messes with the healthcare prices.

Well I thought it was funny to imagine you all as Discourse Suit pilots. Ah, well. But don’t worry. Once my visual respresentation software is complete, it will be able to represent any network of partisan/ideological prosthesis as a mech, and I can use neural nets trained on hundreds of thousands of anime characters to generate a true rattumb mecha anime.

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the-grey-tribe

I have seen exclamations like “I bet he does not even have one gay/black/jewish“ friend, used as some kind of bait, to make the target say the unfortunate words.

mitigatedchaos

That’s when to either go meta, attack along another vector of the same topic (“oh, so the only real gay people are the ones that already agree with you?”) or flip the switch and start shitposting about how you are friends with literally every Jew on Earth, including the questioner.

the-grey-tribe

“I can’t be racist, I have Jewish enemies!”

“Some of my best friends are homophobic!”

“I asked a racist and he hates it, so it must be woke.”

mitigatedchaos

“Oh, so you’re saying that minorities only count if they agree with you, otherwise they’re not people?  You know who else thought that?  HITLER.  Get the fuck out of this fucking building, you racist piece of sht!”

I guarantee they will not see that coming.  Once you’ve stunlocked them, start using other Discourse moves…

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Anime Girls (& boys, but mostly girls because we’re trying to sell manga here) of Rationalist/ Adjacent Tumblr

Discourse Suit Aries: Fires of Orion

@ranma-official: Argumentative girl thought to be flirting with protagonist in comedy filler episode 17, actually interested in protagonist’s love interest.  Side plot is dropped entirely once she becomes member of ship’s crew.

@isaacsapphire​: The ship’s no-nonsense mechanic.

@mitigatedchaos: Loyal officer of the season 1 main antagonist and mobile suit knightmare frame mech pilot.  Actually believes in main antagonist’s plans to bring about World Revolution, and the Hard Choices this requires.  Thought to have been defeated and killed by the protagonist ¾ through season 1, returns to investigate/fight the Mysterious Organization behind the World State in season 2.

@slartibartfastibast​: Ship’s lab-coated biologist.  Secretly working against the Mysterious Organization, as hinted in season 1.

@the-grey-tribe​: Ship’s engineer.  Keeps the protagonist’s Super Prototype Mech Discourse Suit functioning in between combat engagements.

@collapsedsquid​: Journalist investigating the true motives of the season 1 main antagonist, thought to have been killed by the Mysterious Organization near the end of season 1, but revealed to be alive in season 2.  

@kontextmaschine​: Esoteric ‘hipster’ gets little screen-time, revealed as former member of the Mysterious Organization currently in hiding in season 2, annoying viewers as an underwhelming use of foreshadowing in season 1.

@xhxhxhx​: Reasonable Authority Figure of World State District 11, origin point of the protagonist’s ship.

@wrathofgnon​: Even more war-hawkish general of the main antagonist.

@silver-and-ivory​: Handsome Mech Discourse Suit pilot from other battlegroup rescues protagonist twice in season 1, once in season 2.  A fan favorite but doesn’t get much screentime.

@theunitofcaring​: Peace activist focused on by plot but brushed aside by ludicrously destructive Discourse Suit war.  Finally achieves goal in end of season 2.

@yudkowsky: Thought to be the secret identity of the main antagonist, turns out to be just a philosopher in one of the space colonies.

@bambamramfan​: Additional philosopher on Earth.  Encountered by the protagonist in season 1 to impart some wisdom with a few other philosophers before departing.

@wirehead-wannabe​: Bridge bunny.  (Sorry.)

@slatestarscratchpad​: Another space colony philosopher.  Explains the goals of the Mysterious Organization in season 2 when Yudkowsky is found, but not actually a member of the Mysterious Organization.

@argumate: Generic owl-themed harem protagonist of the spin-off series.

[This article is incomplete.  You can help by expanding it.]

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mutant-aesthetic

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

sadoeconomist

Screaming ‘that’s racist!’ whenever anyone mentions it seems to be how they deal with a lot of issues

For the left, environmentalism is just thinly disguised anti-capitalism, and for the globalist elite, environmentalism is about creating a world state. Actually trying to protect the biosphere from potential threats is not something anyone in politics is really sincerely concerned with - kind of a frightening thought

I don’t know that high population growth is necessarily such a terrible thing, though, having more people in the world has a lot of positives to it that usually winds up outweighing the negatives, even for impoverished Africans. Most of the time the people who are concerned with population growth have a skewed zero-sum view of the economy that only lets them see more people as more mouths to feed, but especially in the future that won’t be the right way to look at it

mitigatedchaos

Setting aside that not everyone wants to live in Coruscant, that depends enormously on energy prices, and I’m not optimistic about medium-long-term energy prices.

Much less a bunch of chronically malnourished people don’t give you as many of the benefits of high population.  There’s a lot of argument about the heritability of intelligence, but it’s less controversial that it isn’t that hard to damage intelligence development with environmental factors.

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mutant-aesthetic

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

mitigatedchaos

The plan is to migrate them all here, because developed nations have infinite money and structural reinforcement.  Or there is no plan.  Just cross your fingers and hope it all works out.

Hitler is the Satan figure of modern progressivism/liberalism.  Anything that even has the slightest whiff of something he might maybe have once possibly considered doing for a few seconds is tainted by association.  On top of that, there have been previous racist actions in the developed nations.  On top of that, it has been decided that the majority whites of the developed nations bear the original sin for racism.

Telling people to have fewer kids is worth celebrating by progressivism, but only if you’re telling white people.  Telling anyone else is vile racism.  (Even, of course, if it would lead to terrible conditions in majority-PoC countries.)

For the progressives that actually notice that you can only consume what is produced, and that while the wealthy have a pretty good-sized amount of money it isn’t anywhere near unlimited, embracing any discouragement of population growth is considered too dangerous, a slippery slope to eugenics and baby licenses.

…even to the ones that “jokingly” suggested swapping everyone’s babies to end “genetic chauvinism”, I would imagine.

Of course the Conservatives keep trying to kill abortion in those areas with their controls on American government aid funding, so mostly they don’t really care, either.  Catholics I’ve encountered seem to believe that God Will Provide or something, one of them talking about the Earth supporting a potential population of 100 billion.

Only a few villains see this as an issue, like you, me, and Emmanuel Macron.

squareallworthy

I believe the progressive line on this is “education and improved public health lower the birth rate.” And it’s also the neoliberal line and not too far removed from the libertarian line.

mitigatedchaos

@squareallworthy‘s reading is probably a fairer one, and it’s what they’re hoping for with the crossed fingers.

@mutant-aesthetic

To add on, it should be noted that the birthrate is falling there, even if it’s still crazy high and may end up exceeding the carrying capacity anyway.  World population is forecasted to stop growing somewhere at something like 9-11 billion.

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collapsedsquid

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

mitigatedchaos

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

crazyeddieme

They very people who are capable of solving this problem (and most of our other big problems) are the ones disappearing.  We’re fucked.

mitigatedchaos

The IQ bleedoff is slow.  We just have to make it another 20-30 years for genetic engineering, which China and Korea will pursue even if we don’t.

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