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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
argumate
argumate

Must admit, the endless fascist vs. communist schtick that Tumblr has going on gets a little tiresome. Why must everyone be so uncreative?

argumate

unfortunately posts complaining about endless fascism vs. communism debates are now more overplayed than those debates themselves.

argumate

struggling to go up another meta level here lads

mitigatedchaos

We need a new object level debate to meta on, obviously. How about National Technocracy vs. Globalist Populism?

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diarrheaworldstarhiphop
argumate

honestly I’d really appreciate it if people who dislike transhumanism point me in the direction of why

apricops

I don’t know if I’d say I ‘dislike’ transhumanism so much as it’s important to keep the general arc of science and medicine in mind.

“Scientists installed robot wings in my back and now I can fly” is awesome. “Scientists installed first-generation robot wings in my back and then I was in unbearable pain because all of my spinal discs prolapsed” is not.

apricops

Which is related to my other thought, which is that we just aren’t very good at predicting what life would be like under very different circumstances. On a certain level transhumanism isn’t that different from people saying that we’d have flying cars and robot maids by the year 2000.

argumate

yes, although this seems like just avoiding over optimism, even if you think it’s the right direction overall.

diarrheaworldstarhiphop

Do not underestimate the cyborg equivalent of furries who WOULD endure the lmao prolapsed spine phase of transhumanism

mitigatedchaos

These brave heroes will help bring mankind closer to perfection, and/or test the safety of the secondary backup heart implant before I get it.  Truly, our hats go off for these brave Cyberfurs™.

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profitmaximiser

What happens if you take a bunch of socially inept, above average intelligence, and mentally ill people and have them try to do stuff together? Sounds like a disaster. Well…

slartibartfastibast

“there was that bizarre scandal last year in which someone was accidentally impregnated and then decided not to abort the child, going against what had previously been agreed upon, and proceeded to shamelessly solicit donations from the rationalist community to support her child”

EXCUSE ME DON’T YOU MEAN *HIS* CHILD YOU PROBLEMATIC PIECE OF SHIT OMFG

mitigatedchaos

Leaving aside the whole trans issue, and that suicide baiting at the end is the opposite of charity the commenter claims to have…

I think the issue here is that while institutions like religion supply important guidance by relationship norms like using monogamous marriage as a basis for family formation, the weird supernatural stuff that holds it all together is pretty obviously false, and at other times it really is out of date or punishes harmless groups (e.g., the gays).

Now, we could fall back from the religion to the nation, but nations aren’t particles, they’re waves, so they don’t look real at contrarian depth N = 1. (Whereas I’ve been a sort of double contrarian since high school.)

From that, we could fall back to intuition, but lots of people that claim to be “intuitive” are stupid, manipulative, or trying to justify bullsht. So the Rationalists push that out as well.

And thus people try to fall back to just reason instead, but there are holes in that related, in part, to insufficient information gathering and processing capabilities that brains normally deal with by aggressive summarization and other things, plus still having biases even if you try to remove them.

On the other hand, Rationalists also have less aversion to forbidden shadowspeech, which means some things that are true but forbidden can actually come up in their spaces (as well as things which are false but forbidden).

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welldonna

It bothers me when white ppl and other non-black ppl try to justify cultural appropriation with that “culture sharing” bull crap. Like black people are telling you to stop twerking and wearing our hair styles. So listen? This isn’t a fucking debate.

argumate

“I too believe in strict racial segregation”

atrahasis

So if one side says “don’t copy” because its cultural appropriation and the other side has (at least historically) said “don’t copy” because it’s degenerate art, does this mean that it’s win-win.

argumate

by not twerking you can please college students worried about oppression and the KKK, it’s a rare opportunity.

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argumate
argumate

bookchins-revenge:

well I know you’re (possibly) a huge square and probably think tags ought to all be covered up with a nice solid layer of gray paint, but when you said you take exception to the idea covering up tags is uncool, do you mean you disagree it’s uncool for other artists to cover up people’s tags or you disagree it’s uncool for like, the authorities to cover up tags?

huge square checking in!

if a bunch of people are playing the same tagging game then yes I guess it’s tautologically uncool for one of them to break the rules of the game.

but since I’m not playing that game I’m free to say fuck your tag.

bookchins-revenge

you’re dodging the question, square boy

argumate

not at all! I admitted that there is a subset of people for whom it is uncool to cover up tags: namely those people who participate in a subculture with mutually agreed upon codes of behaviour that describe covering up tags as being uncool.

I don’t know if Banksy is such a person, but if so then their action was uncool according to the conventions of this subculture they implicitly agreed to uphold.

However, anyone outside this subculture is free to disregard its conventions and cover up or otherwise obscure, modify, or erase tags with complete impunity, disclaiming any allegations of uncoolness as being mere status grab attempts.

mitigatedchaos

Honestly, the whole tagging thing involves writing on other peoples’ walls without their permission, what right could they possibly have to object to other taggers tagging over their tags?  “Oh well it’s my tag” - well it’s not your wall it isn’t, you already broke the rules of ownership, you can’t claim to be covered under them again.

One could argue on a Consequential basis or an aesthetic basis, but the vast majority of graffiti has insufficient artistic value for that.  It’s mostly just people writing their names, over and over again, usually making walls and buildings look worse in expensive ways.

Every tagger caught by the state should be conscripted into removing all these worthless name tags as community service and be made to pay for the paint to do so themselves.

I bet a lot more people would be sympathetic if the act if illegally spraying paint on a building usually looked more like this:

Or even this:

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collapsedsquid
collapsedsquid:
“ afloweroutofstone:
“Reid’s view of political parties would be perfectly valid (and possibly even desirable) if it weren’t for the fact that our two parties actively work to prevent any alternative parties from being able to compete...
afloweroutofstone

Reid’s view of political parties would be perfectly valid (and possibly even desirable) if it weren’t for the fact that our two parties actively work to prevent any alternative parties from being able to compete with them. A party doesn’t get to eliminate all of its competition and then place demands on those forced into working through it as the only remaining option. Not in a society with even nominal political freedom, that is.

collapsedsquid

Is metaphor for capitalism and wage-labor.

mitigatedchaos

To be honest, not fitting into the two party system is part of why I haven’t entered politics.

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collapsedsquid

Need to get someone to promise to eat something ridiculous if Donald Trump get impeached.  A hunk of granite maybe?  Maybe some of the Swedish rotted fish thing? 

mitigatedchaos

can i volunteer to eat abstract concepts

mitigatedchaos

@collapsedsquid  Unless you can get on national television and make a good spectacle of it there somehow, no.

Call Xi Jinping.  I will eat the share of the national debt controlled by China by transmuting it into bearer bonds printed on tortillas.

Source: collapsedsquid shtpost politics

Ministry Denies Existence of “Thinking Emoji Waifu”

The Memetics Unit of the Ministry of State Security’s Cyber-Warfare Division denied responsibility for rumors of “thinking emoji waifu” that began to circulate on Monday.  

“The weaponization of emoji in such a manner,” stated Public Representative Takayama, “is unthinkable.  It’s unthinkable.  It sounds like something [ISIS] would do.”  

Pressed on previous creation of Sheikh Shrek Rule 34 that was allegedly traced to the Ministry by foreign news organizations as part of what was believed to be an effort to undermine Saudi Arabia, Rep. Takayama continued to deny any claims of the Ministry’s involvement with emoji-based cyber-weapons.  “Look, I know all those foreigners think we’re going to cast some sort of emoji spell at them that will somehow hack their brains into voting for the next Brexit, but that is not what we do,” he said.  “The Memetics Unit is a defensive organization created to protect this country from political interference from non-state actors such as 4chan.”

The history of our nation’s involvement with formalized memetic warfare is believed to have started in 1986, with an internal START Corporation paper titled “Going Viral: Ideological Replication Vectors & Attack Surfaces” originally circulated among a handful of elite mathematicians…

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zoobus

I think e3 is over and I hope that means I never hear about whatever that cyber punk drama was about again
I learned more about the origins of a genre I’ve never read than I ever cared to know

ranma-official

Thankfully, as we know, people really quickly drop culture war stuff as far as videogames go

mitigatedchaos

“-and now, President Highever has ordered deployment of additional troops to fight GamerGate-sponsored insurgents as the Montana crisis continues.  The troops, who are expected to arrive on Wednes-”

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