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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna

“Oh yeah, well if MEN got pregnant…”

Honey, if men* got pregnant, the entire evolutionary balance of our species, including reproductive strategies, would be wildly different.  You aren’t just talking about a world where the dialogue on abortion has shifted (and there are plenty of pro-life women), you’re talking about redefining the entirety of human history and social organization.

The forms of organization are themselves dependent on just how the mechanics work!  There is a tacit admission of this in the original, but it doesn’t go anywhere near far enough.  Is it random?  Do men always bear the child?  Sometimes?  For part of the cycle but not the whole?

And it doesn’t end there.  Men would be shaped differently.  Men would be sized differently.  Women have fat deposits on their bodies because making human babies is so ludicrously expensive that preparations need to be made beforehand in pre-modern societies.  Men are in part organized the way they are because they are more expendable biologically.  Higher risk/higher reward.

If men got pregnant, then that goes away.  The changes would be so drastic that they could not be called men anymore.

(*in the classical sense the kind of people that make this comment use, since otherwise they wouldn’t be be making this comment in the first place)

gender politics transphobia cw
nuclearspaceheater
You know, I do think this attitude has contributed to the rise of the Alt Right. If they’re going to call you racist no matter what you do, then it doesn’t matter if they do. You might as well think forbidden thoughts, say forbidden things, speak the...
mitigatedchaos

You know, I do think this attitude has contributed to the rise of the Alt Right.  If they’re going to call you racist no matter what you do, then it doesn’t matter if they do.  You might as well think forbidden thoughts, say forbidden things, speak the dark speech they so fear to punish them for their intent to punish you for even the most minor transgressions.

Of course, you could also go by your own conscience and not try to build a racially-homogenous ethnostate, but that lacks the same trolling value.

Source: gummybearattacktheworldofdespair politics race politics
ranma-official
mitigatedchaos

Well, NIMBYs killed microhousing in Seattle which was going to be the kinds of small, affordable apartments that people could actually afford to live in.

Yeah, that’s one of the problems with the whole “but that isn’t REAL Capitalism!  We need to deregulate!” things.  The regulatory capture that corrupted the existing process will also corrupt its dismantling unless you fix it, and Capitalism pays people to subvert public ownership of the state.

the invisible fist politics
ranma-official
ranma-official

Hot take: the problem with homelessness does not boil down to “count amount of homeless, count amount of houses, if the latter is larger, then capitalism is intentionally making people homeless and will collapse if they aren’t, therefore get rid of capitalism to instantly solve homelessness”.

Pay attention to the fact that there are much more homeless people per capita in cities than in half-abandoned villages, and you will realize that the problem isn’t just not having a home, but not having a home where you want to have a home, to the extent where they would rather be homeless in a city than landlords in a village.

There are obvious easy solutions, like falsely​ reporting that you have solved homelessness while carting people out of the city (adjusting visibility), or forcing people to live in certain places regardless of where they actually want to live (adjusting mobility), but they don’t fix the actual underlying issue.

Policy changes to address this are going to be very expensive, unless you want to reduce safety restrictions for houses, which you should not.

And not expensive because robber baron capitalism pigs, but expensive as per LTV - construction is a man hour hungry process.
mitigatedchaos

You have to make other changes that allow you to fix the zoning laws, but even that only gets you so far, so basically this.

policy politics
ranma-official
argumate

Very good point I’m totally convinced now that homelessness is a thing just because it never occured to anyone that we should solve it, and not because it is literally the prerequisite of capitalism.

People keep saying stupid shit making incorrect assumptions about this.

We could fix homelessness with modest improvements to existing policies.

The status quo does not hinge on schizophrenics sleeping rough.

ranma-official

You can fix homelessness by claiming that homelessness has been solved

mitigatedchaos

In Libertopia, homelessness is only a sign that vagrants don’t want homes enough.

The Market Provides.

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the-grey-tribe
the-grey-tribe

Going way meta here.

Knowing about cognitive biases can hurt some people: Mr Inman is subtly implying that the backfire effect only happens to the red tribe, while simultaneously poisoning the well on counterarguments.

Imagine a version of that comic that tells you stuff about Abraham Lincoln, and ends with “Abraham Lincoln did not think that the American Civil War was about slavery (source)“, and then immediately condescendingly say that certain people are going to write rebuttals on Facebook and miss the point?

Imagine starting out with the famous sentence from the Treaty of Tripoli about the constitution of the USA being agnostic, only to then veer into the white slavery of the Barbary Pirates that made such a treaty necessary.

Moldbug did that all the time. This is a positively Moldbuggian infographic!

Imagine starting out with some statistics about equality, diversity and feminism in Scandinavia, and then adding statistics about decreased social cohesion resulting from ethnic diversity, male-dominated professions resulting from greater female freedom to choose careers, and the effects of the Law of Jante on entrepreneurship and GDP. If you accept one, you must accept the other!

Imagine an infographic about refugees, freedom of the press, ISIS and Erdogan, then suddenly about support for authoritarian Islamic reactionaries, or straight-up Jihadists, among Muslims in the West. Not fair, you say. Backfire effect, I say!

This is what Moldbug did. He roped you in with some well sourced, morally neutral facts, then got into morally repugnant territory, and you were left wondering if you didn’t accept it only because you didn’t want it to be true. “Fine”, Moldbug says: “You appeal to consequences. But are the consequences of a Singapore-style ethnically uniform capitalist dictatorship not so much better than what we have now? You said that free trade brings peace, why stop here?”

Of course, you can accept one and not the other, and the reason Moldbug can get away his arguments is that once you accept that your world view has been shaped by cognitive bias and whig history, every cherished belief of yours is up for grabs. Those beliefs that contradict Moldbug are obviously the ones that are wrong!

Inman does not go as far. He does not lead you to a repugnant conclusion. He just stays in the comfortable confines of bland tribalism. He does not have cognitive biases, or he does not share them. Mr Inman only has pinky toe, and an understanding of cognitive neuroscience that makes the average person who reads his infographic slightly less well-informed about emotion and what an amygdala is.

mitigatedchaos

God bless the United States of Singapore.

Good post.

Source: theoatmeal.com
wirehead-wannabe
wirehead-wannabe:
“ mailadreapta:
“ shieldfoss:
“ anarchyinblack:
“I can’t decide: Which of these is the more ancap option?
”
#2 sounds like a man seeking government permission to be in breach of contract.
”
#1 is obviously correct; #2 is just being...
anarchyinblack

I can’t decide: Which of these is the more ancap option?

shieldfoss

#2 sounds like a man seeking government permission to be in breach of contract.

mailadreapta

#1 is obviously correct; #2 is just being an asshole. If you’re having a problem with female employees, the correct thing to do is not hire women in the first place.

wirehead-wannabe

What the hell is this a screenshot from

mitigatedchaos

Most likely the game NationStates at NationStates.net.

Source: anarchyinblack
bariumsulfateacetone
mitigatedchaos

What price are you willing to pay to solve those problems, ideologically?

If it is necessary to become Singapore, are you willing to do this?

bariumsulfateacetone

What do you mean by “become Singapore”?

mitigatedchaos

For instance, though this is less Singaporean, suppose that the things social conservatives complain about are true (outside of LGBT), they just happen to apply mostly to lower-class communities, because upper-class communities can survive that level of dysfunction (thanks to money).  What would you do?

Or for something more genuinely Singaporean, are you willing to have convicted vandals publicly caned?  Are you willing to use conscription for young men?  Will you allow schools to punish or exclude problem students?

Source: dataandphilosophy politics