Popularity of different French election candidates separated by age.
From here.
I’ve been rooting for Le Pen. Not sure if I’m in the right or have crossed the line and become a villain.
I’m going to need a new wardrobe if I did, though.
Some people have dumb cultures and dumb ideologies that will do things like mutilate women.
But they like those cultures.
If it doesn’t come here, then I can be more “tolerant” because I don’t have to put up with the consequences of their culture/ideologies, but if it does, then I need to actively erode and erase their culture so that I don’t have to deal with the consequences, like higher crime rates. And I can’t stop here, but have to chase their culture all the way back to its homeland since I can’t exclude it, so I effectively must practice cultural imperialism.
Additionally, the benefits of better cultures will mask the effects of bad cultures until they become sufficiently represented within the system. This will be used to claim that bad cultures are not bad, not really, and that really the cause of all this is Western Imperialism and not having enough bad culture. So of course, we need to import more of it. You know, for Diversity.
We were promised by people that told us assimilation is wrong that immigrants from countries where they practice things like FGM would assimilate and not practice it here. Now we apparently have an underground FGM group in Michigan. How long until support for it gains political power under Democracy?
(Of course context matters; I know leviathan is a friend here, and one doesn’t want the ironic use of a term to displace the original if it’s a good one - just say no to Grescham’s Law!)
Funny you should mention that. Even now, “culturally enriched” is coming to mean “murdered by Islamists or violent immigrants”.
Seven deadly sins political compass
Submission from anon
I’m not just exactly on the intersection of sloth, gluttony and lust, but moving away from lust towards gluttony
Men’s Rights Advocates will go on and on about how they think a woman is going to trap them in to a pregnancy (why not get male birth control then?) but in reality, men are more likely to try to trap women to stay with them with a forced/unwanted pregnancy.
There’s even a whole fetish for forced impregnation.
“But why don’t you trust men” men will cry, when there are entire swaths of entitled men dedicating themselves to deceiving women at every turn.
According to the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, about 10% of men and 9% of women have experienced reproductive coercion (lying to your partner about birth control, sabotaging your partner’s birth control, refusing to use a condom).
I think it’s a mistake for campaigns to raise awareness about forms of domestic violence and intimate partner abuse to try to divide the male and female victims of reproductive coercion like this. There are abusers of both genders who lie about birth control, sabotage condoms or take them off during sex, and ignore their partner’s autonomy in reproductive decision making; there are victims of both genders who have experienced this behavior. We can raise awareness about abuse without implying that men who have been abused in this way, or who fear being abused in this way, are lying.
In general, if you are writing about abuse and intimate partner violence and your instinct is to say “oh, people say that [this group of people] suffers from this, but in reality, [this group of people] are the ones really suffering from this!!” what you are communicating to abuse victims is that unless they’re in the right category, their abuse doesn’t matter, awareness and solidarity are not for them, and they should stop talking so as not to distract from the real victims.
Instead, the right way to address the content of the article is to say “lots of women experience reproductive coercion, and awareness of reproductive coercion is important! Here’s what it looks like, here’s how widespread it is, here’s how to protect yourself if you’re in a relationship with someone who engages in it.” No need to imply that other abuse isn’t real or doesn’t matter as much.
Inform and empower people, don’t try to recruit them to one side in The Discourse.
Oh I wrote an angry post about this Huffington Article! Copypaste here:
The Huffington Post posted this article, which talks about the phenomenon of men secretly removing condoms before sex.
This is definitely a terrible thing and I agree it happens to women. The article was careful to frame this as such:
“One can note,” Brodsky writes, “that proponents of ‘stealthing’ root their support in an ideology of male supremacy in which violence is a man’s natural right.”
Because of the connection between stealthing and sexual assault, and the fact that both acts are rooted in beliefs of male dominance and supremacy…
Brodsky highlights the online communities who defend stealthing as a male “right,” particularly a right of every man to “spread his seed” ― regardless of if said man is engaging in straight or gay penetrative sex
1. The ‘community’ of men stealthing women seems to come mostly from this link right here. In the study she implies that there are multiple sources: “One commenter on an article“ and “Another defender, commenting on a blog post detailing one man’s “strategy” for stealthing” are references to the same link above. All further quotes she cites for the misogynistic stealthing of women come from that one page. My google searches for further men-stealthing-women only turned up that one page.
2. That last quote was originally ““So you’ve got a condom watcher[.] Someone who is monitoring too closely for a tip-off broken condom or to slip it off mid-fuck,” he says. “How are you going to breed[?]” from the study. The original quote is on the forum here. This is entirely about gay sex, on a gay sex forum, and even is clarified as gay in the original study. When the Huffington Post quotes it, however, it’s careful to qualify it as: “regardless of if said man is engaging in straight or gay penetrative sex”
3. By far, the longest stealthing-promoting community online is the Bareback Brotherhood, which is an entirely gay community. In fact, nearly every single stealthing advocate online I could find was in the gay community.
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In the Huffington Post article, every single victim the author lists is female. I had a hard time finding any personal reports online about being a victim of stealth seeding, except for this one, who is male.
Basically, if we’re going off ‘online communities,’ as this article is, stealth seeding is probably mostly an issue in the gay community, with men as victims.
…huh. Thank you for looking into that. The erasure of male victims is horrible either way but the use of quotes about abuse of men, decontextualized to make it seem like they’re about women and then spread around to claim that only women are victimized, really raises it to a whole new level of horrible.
MFMMG??
The red pill is one of, if not the most female hating subs on reddit, and I mean that. Outright disgust and contempt of women, encouragement of rape, praising abuse, mod sanctioned vileness, and preying on vulnerable men to draw in their ranks.
Assuming you can stomach it (tw casual support of abuse, rape, and misogyny - I mean this literally, one of the first pics suggests a dude film himself sexually assaulting his gf white she sleeps bc she joined the military, another explicitly states women have no value) I recommend checking out the kind of shit that got upvoted and posted to trp. This is what a man working in the law created:
http://m.imgur.com/a/bGiiW
what the fuck
Heyso usually you can’t trust media reporting on male gender stuff (remember “MRAs Hate Fury Road!”?) but TRP really is so misogynist that I can’t even bring myself to read it. His constituents should be informed of this.
@flowingblades That’s the kind thing that sort of person would never demand that women have to do, so I was being charitable and assuming ignorance instead of sexist hypocrisy.
Men’s Rights Advocates will go on and on about how they think a woman is going to trap them in to a pregnancy (why not get male birth control then?) but in reality, men are more likely to try to trap women to stay with them with a forced/unwanted pregnancy.
There’s even a whole fetish for forced impregnation.
1. Citation on the numbers or admitting you’re just estimating them, please. There are places where women discuss doing this sort of thing to men as well and it is similarly not seen as wrong locally.
2. What male birth control? A recent study for male hormonal birth control was cancelled due to side effects, vasalgel has not arrived in the West yet (but there was crowdfunding that some MRAs may have contributed to IIRC), and vasectomies are still fairly permanent. Condoms are the existing male birth control that is actually available to men.
3. Women have more options if this happens than men do. You have not actually defeated the MRA point that women have more reproductive rights (in the West) than men do.
4. It most likely is not MRAs doing this.
5. By making it adversarial, you have avoided the space where an actual gender-neutral law could get broader support to prohibit the practice in both directions, which MRAs would like, as well as the moral upper ground. Of course, once that hit the news it would spawn a few national conversations about women that weren’t particularly flattering, but the lack of those conversations is contributing both to what you would call “misogyny” and to the creation of MRAs.
6. No seriously, why are you making this adversarial, burning political energy on fighting men that would be okay with a law banning it instead of men that wouldn’t? You won’t demobilize MRAs with “women are the real victims, male suffering doesn’t matter” type stuff, you won’t prevent the creation of more MRAs, you won’t make passage of a law banning the practice more likely (and if you did make it more likely that would prove misandry on the part of society), all it does is provide reason to oppose something that shouldn’t really be opposed or, being more uncharitable here, prevent conversations where we find out how many women really think like this (enabling us to overcome that and educate them) and maybe spreading from that conversations about why.
I posted this as a comment over at Ozy’s blog, but I figured it was a long enough ramble that it might as well be a tumblr post. Cut because it’s yet another post about incels and Nice Guys and all that stuff you don’t want to read yet another post about
I’ve always believed that the grain of truth to “girls only go for assholes” culture is that…people who see this spectrum aren’t completely wrong.
In the world we live in, the world of Schrodinger’s Rapist, putting yourself out there at all is kind of an asshole move. Men (if they’re decent and paying attention) are aware that many women are sick of male attention, any male attention with a sexual bent, and that hitting on someone in any way has a strong potential to make that person really unhappy or uncomfortable, especially if you have poor social skills or trouble reading people.
If you’re aware that any attempt to make a romantic or sexual connection could really easily end up threatening and unpleasant, then you have a clear moral imperative to never hit on anyone. And therefore you’re alone, and you see people who do hit on people (assholes by definition) succeeding in their romantic endeavours, which leads to bitterness and resentment against both the “assholes” and against the women who “reward their behavior,” their behavior being “having the temerity to ever approach anyone.”
this is also what leads otherwise-decent people into “friendzone” thinking: approaching people in explicitly platonic ways doesn’t incur this worry that you’ll hurt them or make them uncomfortable with your attention. (This is of course contrary to reality: friendly approach by someone who gives you the heebie-jeebies is probably going to cause a lot more distress than a socially-competent pass. But I think this is the construction going on in their heads.) Because these people see themselves as performing the correct and moral actions of never subjecting women to explicitly sexual attention, they end up feeling like they deserve a reward.
i guess the point I’m trying to make is, I completely agree with your post and find it very illuminating, but I question the central thesis that there is a complete qualitative disconnect between the confidence of decent human behavior and the confidence of asshole hypermasculinity. existing as a man in patriarchal society means that acting with even a baseline, moderate level of confidence can make you a threatening figure.
People complain about the men posting anime girls, but I’m pretty sure half of those men would push the button to become anime girls if the option were available, regardless of whether they admit to it.
