Oceans Yet to Burn

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[argumate]

bpd-anon said: “Slavery is that thing where I have to do things I don’t want to, right?”

slavery is that thing where I’ve made choices but then grumble about them

slavery is that thing where unavoidable compromises result in arrangements that aren’t 100% ethically pure

slavery is that thing where we have to make decisions with limited information and bounded reasoning power

[shieldfoss]

Slavery is that thing where people uses threats of violence (backed by actual violence in case of non-compliance) to make me do work I don’t want to do.

That’s not taxes. Taxes aren’t work. Taxes are theft.

[mitigatedchaos]

Taxes are rent.

Force is the fundamental nature of property.  The State is the real owner.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

licking-the-liquid-crystal asked:

Suicide? What happened to looking forward to the immortality singularity?

ranma-official answered:

Not possible.

Humans are always on the brink of discovering immortality, which is just beyond the cutting edge of current science. Now, with Big Data, it’s brain uploading. Recently it was the human genome project, earlier still, transplants, pharmaceutics. During the Conquista, with the Fountain of Youth, it was cartography.

100% of people who were born will die on this planet.

[mitigatedchaos]

Nah, it’s not brain uploading anymore, we’re back to biology again. Right now we’re mostly getting tech to make being old suck less.  It’s at the stage the robot arms controlled by monkeys in labs were 10-15 years ago, so it should actually arrive, just like nervous-system-controlled prosthetic limbs are now a real thing.  Clearing Alzheimer’s plaques in mice and the experiment with old and new blood from joined mice rejuvenating the old mouse are examples, as well as tissue engineering for growing new organs.  Getting stuff for humans out of CRISPR Cas9 will take a bit longer, probably another decade before it reaches that stage.

It’s unclear whether aging escape velocity will be reached within our lifetimes, but it’s still within the realm of probability, supposing the countries advancing the current technological edge don’t crash, and… they may not actually crash.  Renewable energy is still picking up even as subsidies end, and we have enough uranium to power industrial civilization for 3,000 years in the oceans, if we must resort to it.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

Men upset by cartoon

[mostlysignssomeportents]

This cartoon, published in The New Yorker, is upsetting men today. The cartoonist is Will McPhail, who is good at capturing the moment.

https://boingboing.net/2017/02/28/men-upset-by-cartoon.html

[the-grey-tribe]

U mad bro? U mad? Plz? Mad plz?

[misanthropymademe]

*reads description to the side of it* “It says here the artist meant X.”

Alternately: “I think/Perhaps it means X.”

Do you get the same response as if you were bloviating? If so, stage exit left.  

[bambamramfan]

It’s hilarious because the cartoon by itself reads as an insult to the woman, who is offering bait and switch conversational tactics. It’s super easy to imagine this exact cartoon being written by some anti-feminist, critiquing the conversational traps men have to deal with.

(Not to mention the heuristic that “if only one person is speaking in a cartoon, they are usually the punchline.”)

But, because of the context (a high profile cosmopolitan yet very bland and conformist magazine), audiences assume it must be criticizing the silent male, and that it is also doing so unfairly. So they both presume the nature of the joke, then criticize it for delivering it badly.

Weird.

[bambamramfan]

@youzicha replied to your text post

is it really so weird? As e.g. agoodcartoon illustrates, political cartoons can often be read two ways and you need to use information about where it was published to pin down how many layers of irony it was on. If this one was explicitly targetting the woman, presumably (a different subset of) people would still hate it. Either way, it seems the artist is just trolling us.

I did not mean the cartoon was weird, so much as the reaction, which as you say seems to depend on the idea that the cartoon is “trolling” us.

What’s weird is to see a cartoon, and rather than read the message that is there, to do a two step process whereby you assume there is another message (hating men) and complain that it is delivered badly. (And indeed, it does not read as a convincing denunciation of mansplaining at all.)

Had the joke more effectively critiqued mansplaining (”When I said the picture had multiple possible meanings, I wasn’t asking you to tell me which was the right one,”) then their would have been less offense taken, which is really quite ironic.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[endecision]

People who dislike cars and want more public transit:

I sometimes prefer public transit to driving because I hate parking and navigation, and I can multitask on public transit. But I also prefer driving to public transit because public transit is loud, smelly, dirty, crowded, expensive, and slow, with no air conditioning or heating, uncomfortable seats or only standing room, delays and breakdowns, long wait times in general, no availability late at night, tunnels that plug my ears painfully, and other passengers being loud/rude/annoying, blaring music, scamming, panhandling, stealing things, fighting, spitting, urinating, harassing people (transphobia cw), and sometimes being actually threatening or dangerous.

What solutions have people come up with to these problems? (My experiences are mostly with BART, AC Transit, and Caltrain.)

[sinesalvatorem]

Same question for my own followers.

My experiences of transit have been buses in [Redacted]; the underground in London, New Castle (UK), Frankfurt (Germany), and Washington DC; the Northern Rail (UK); Berlin’s buses; the BART and the Caltrain; and buses in Toronto, the Bay Area (USA), and North Bay (Ontario, Canada).

Those are listed from best to worst by my personal experiences of them. They’re mostly Subway > Overground train > Buses, except for [Redacted]’s weird capitalist buses. I’ve also preferred [Redacted] over Europe, and Europe over North America.

What makes some public transit systems better than others? And how would you make something like the BART more like that? And are they really a substitute for being able to insulate yourself and your family in a personal vehicle?

[mitigatedchaos]

You’re not gonna like this, but…

A number of the problems stem from the culture of the population at large, its level of disorder, and its level of criminality.  If you want Japan-tier respectful train passengers, you are going to have to take Japan-tier measures towards, essentially, the entire rest of society, and this will not be very Libertarian.

Which is fine by me since I’m not an atomic individualist and am fairly Statist and even Nationalist, but that isn’t where you are in the political spectrum.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[the-grey-tribe]

Basically don’t call people “cucks“. Don’t be surprised when people react badly to being called “cucks“. Don’t try to reclaim “cuck“ by telling other people that being cuckolded is a good thing.

[mitigatedchaos]

That sounds suspiciously like something a cuck would say. 

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[ranma-official]

I find it increasingly difficult to justify my own continued existence, really.

There are so many ~~inspirational~~ posts floating around and I’m reading through them thinking “well, that doesn’t apply either, actually”.

Somebody’s not a CEO but they help people save money on airplane tickets, and I am not even useful for that.

[ranma-official]

“but pets”.

I have a bird.

1) Someone else can take care of him. My mother, for example.

2) Or he’ll starve to death. So? Logically speaking, there are probably millions of budgies. They’re not going extinct or anything. It’d be awful, but I’m one of the sole people in the world who thinks he has any value, so it’s basically a net gain.

[ranma-official]

“but your blog”

Now you’re just lying.

[mitigatedchaos]

Well, technically, unfollowing you is as easy as clicking a button, so surely the people saying they like your blog are telling the truth about that, since otherwise who are they signalling to and why didn’t they just unfollow? If you mean it isn’t enough in the grand scheme of things then I suppose I can’t argue that, though I am left to wonder if there isn’t some high-risk activity you could take that you could use to push yourself into what you consider the positive, though perhaps you don’t have enough energy for that.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

Lvl 100 Woke

[oddbagel]

LVL 200 WOKE

[ranma-official]

We are hitting woke levels that shouldn’t've​ been possible

[mitigatedchaos]

They even have dedicated operatives supporting Liberalism online, attempting to undermine American Antifas in their glorious struggle against the illegitimate Fascist President and his Fascist voters.  Why, they could be right here among us even now!

Truly, Putin’s insidious plotting knows no bounds.  

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

marginalrevolution.com

Is healthy food a luxury for low-income households in the United States? - Marginal REVOLUTION

[slartibartfastibast]

Ideally, food stamps would be restricted to food that isn’t refined poison. But here in America we have the freedom to buy and eat refined poison.

But it isn’t advertised as refined poison. It’s advertised as a healthy part of a balanced breakfast (which is a deceptive way to say “we are legally required to ask that you dilute this poison before consumption, even tho we know you won’t”). But here in America we have the freedom to lie to the poor so that they’ll buy our cheap poison.

The simplest solution might be to get the FDA to look at contemporary inflammation rates from foods they already approved back in the Leave it to Beaver days. Once they realize the gluten hipsters aren’t making it all up, hopefully we’ll be able to roll back the industrial agro insanity a bit before things get worse.

[mitigatedchaos]

> when you’re a gluten hipster because your body is the original gluten hipster and you’ve been known to give in to peer pressure from gut neurons, and you’re also an artificial color hipster, and an artificial flavor hipster, and an MSG hipster, and so on, until you eventually just distrust any product with indecipherable ingredients on general principle, avoiding the majority of all junk food unintentionally with the exception of tortilla chips

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[markoftheasphodel]

This is my last political piece for a while ‘cause I can’t take anymore.

Some months back– during the heat of the primaries, I think– one of Slate’s soapbox columnists produced an liberal outrage-of-the-day piece on an issue so ephemeral it escapes me now but which drew unmitigated scorn from even the left-wing members of the comment section. One poor soul went so far as to post, “My God, please stop. This is what gets you Trump. Do you want Trump?”

[crazyeddieme]

We got way too little of “Trump has no idea what the fuck he’s doing and the bullshit he’s selling you is not going to fucking work” during this campaign.  That was the single most compelling issue, as far as I’m concerned… having someone who knows what the fuck they’re doing in the Oval Office.

And now we’re all in for it.

Maybe that wouldn’t have even worked.  Maybe 47% of the electorate simply don’t care if the system keeps working or not.  Maybe they’re just fine with bringing it all crashing down on our heads.  Because for them, it wasn’t working.

Now what?

[mitigatedchaos]

You sell them on a plan that will actually work.

Low minimum wage + direct-to-employee wage subsidies - creates massive jobs, cuts out a lot of anxiety for the lower classes, breaks the welfare trap.  Fix the trade balance.  Rebalance immigration and quit talking like it’s a plan to demographically replace them.

Unfortunately that won’t happen because both the party leadership and the party base are too ideological and clueless.  That’s why they failed to buy off the Rust Belt in the first place, even though doing so should have been hypothetically ideologically compatible if you aren’t Globalist.

And, of course, if they were competent, they would have fixed the welfare trap already.  But they aren’t competent.  F’in politics m8.

Or to put it another way, those Rust Belt voters don’t believe the party that professes to hate them has their best interests at heart, so something expensive will have to be sacrificed to signal that they’re willing to go to bat for them for real.  Obama was given a pass on hope and change.  It won’t work a second time.  It’s going to be tough.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

Anonymous asked:

What would Trump have to do to get you to put that hat back on?

elementarynationalism answered:

A purge of the cucks.

[argumate]

he’s entertaining globalists while you watch on helplessly; who is the cuck in this situation, really.

[mitigatedchaos]

The nation.  The nation is getting cucked by this misbehavior, much like it was under President (N-1), President (N-2), …

Though I’ll call it fine if we don’t get more Syria War Action.