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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
collapsedsquid
collapsedsquid

Tried to get a twitter account, and about four seconds after signing up it was  “We’ve detected some suspicious activity, can we have your phone number?“

Fuck no, twitter

mitigatedchaos

“Aw, come now Squiddy honey-baby, you wouldn’t mind providing your number to lil’ ol’ me, would you?”
- Twitter, probably

collapsedsquid

Ain’t nobody gettin my number, I resent the very existence of phones.

mitigatedchaos

Good. I saw Twitter collecting over eleven thousand phone numbers at a bar the other night. Can’t trust a woman corporation like that.

shtpost the invisible fist
ranma-official
ranma-official:
“ official-mugi:
“It’s almost as if they ignored everything the game revealed about the characters and their feelings
”
Kanji’s character arc: being open about your emotions and liking things considered girly doesn’t make you...
official-mugi

It’s almost as if they ignored everything the game revealed about the characters and their feelings

ranma-official

Kanji’s character arc: being open about your emotions and liking things considered girly doesn’t make you gay

Fandom: yes it does! That’s what being a Gay is!

mitigatedchaos

How many levels of gay are you on?

I dunno, 5, maybe 6.

You are like a little baby. Watch this.

~Becomes straight woman.~

- how this phenomena works, probably

Source: official-mugi shtpost gender politics
bambamramfan
mitigatedchaos

You call it dumb, but the Mexican government is sending out information about how to get through our immigration system, so clearly they actually are operating on those ideas.  So does the government of China, to a degree.  It’s actually pretty normal.  And as for the institutions, I will never get over the Left’s blind faith that institutions are totally not fragile, you guys, and there is no reason to worry about them.

Source: bpd-anon
bpd-anon
bpd-anon

I was talking about my republican father about immigration. He flat out said he cares more about Americans than non Americans and that horrified me. Like… I’m not extrapolating this from some other position he holds, he literally said those words.

I asked him what made Americans so morally relevant. Perhaps he thinks Americans have a greater capacity for feeling pain and should be protected more because of that? Perhaps non Americans are automatically evil?? He said no, it’s because he is an American. He said also that it sucks when a player from another baseball team gets hit in the head with a baseball but when somebody from his favorite team gets hit in the head it’s a tragedy.

This is so hard for me to understand, like… they’re both people!

Also, it can’t just be that he thinks people with more in common with him are more worth preserving. Like, he would definitely have more in common with a truck driving poker fan in Belgium than a black punk rocker communist in America. I should point this out to him next time.

Arrrrrgh whyyyyyyyy

argumate

tribalism is a thing, group membership is still important

anyway we know the drill: arrange a Martian invasion, unite humanity against it!

bpd-anon

Ok but how is a country a group even it’s just a bunch of people who happen to be born in the same spot

Why doesn’t he feel more tribalism with poker players worldwide the way I do with rationalists worldwide (and even then I don’t think we matter more than other people when it comes to quality of life!)

mitigatedchaos

DiscoursedRome had a lot of good stuff to add in response to this, but also:

If a nation fails to maintain a sufficiently large core of people who are willing to kill and die for it, it will cease to be a nation.  These people must be willing to kill those who, outside of a war, would not deserve it.  

For instance, do you think most of the men fighting in the Iraqi Army during the invasion of Kuwait deserved to die?  Most of them were there through fear, probably coerced.  The same would be true of a Communist invasion.  For North Korea, one can argue that even if they’re brainwashed into it, no one deserves to be brainwashed.  And sometimes, people that would otherwise be normal will fight to the death during a war out of loyalty or ideology.

That isn’t to say that you can’t do anything about this.  The US Army deliberately targeted armored vehicles rather than light infantry and took many prisoners during the first war with Iraq, in part because they knew the men would surrender.

But if some dictator took over Mexico and formed an army of conscripts moving north, bent on human wave attacks, then you have to be willing to kill at least some of them who didn’t deserve to be in a conscript army, or you will lose territory.

Of course, having this capability means having the ability to misuse it, which is why I will never forgive the NeoCons.

There are other things like this as well.  There are criminals, terrorists, ideologies with higher numbers of terrorists, foreign agents, dictatorships and authoritarian regimes, elements that would politically undermine democracy, and so on.  Then there are incentive problems with open borders, in that if people aren’t at least somewhat glued to a location, they have less incentive to take care of it.  There are issues with the fragility of cultures, institutions, and moral norms.  

If the entirety of Earth were made up of the LW diaspora this wouldn’t be as much of an issue, but it isn’t.

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