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Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
argumate
argumate

the weirdness of people buying tons of vitamins and other health supplements to take back to China is something I still can’t get over; talk about market failure!

argumate

godeepforme said: you mean state interference?

both state interference and a lack of state interference (states create markets!)

for example without enforcement of various consumer protection laws, IP laws (trademarks), and product safety regulations, you end up with a market for lemons where premium products cannot easily gain consumer trust, and people would rather fly to another country and raid the supermarkets there.

politics economy

2007: Your robotic catgirl girlfriend will satisfy your every whim in her adorable cuteness.

2017: Your robotic genderqueer trap catgirl waifu will harvest information in order to target advertisements deep into your soul, sponsored by Woke Brands such as Target, Starbucks and refreshing Coca-Cola™, as well as providing information to the loyal, pro-diversity, freedom-loving patriots of the Deep State.

mitigated future shtpost invisible hand
the-grey-tribe
ranma-official

Explain this obsession with murdering people who block traffic. People e-brag about shooting them with shotguns or more commonly just plowing into them at full speed on their cars.

mitigatedchaos

Not sure.  I’ve seen people joke about it at least.  Maybe because it’s the only way protesters practically interfere with the daily functioning of their lives?  At least one ambulance has been blocked, though the use of lethal force to disrupt traffic-blocking protests would almost certainly increase net casualties.

I still contend that America is simply not competent enough to enact (as in justify) restriction policies on the level of soft authoritarian countries in Asia.

the-grey-tribe

What’s soft authoritarian? Singapore? Hongkong?

mitigatedchaos

Something along those lines, yes.  Caning for vandalism, death penalty for smuggling drugs, dominant party since the nation’s founding with a habit of suing its opponents into submission, that sort of thing.

I can be pretty freakin’ Statist.  People get offended over banning chewing gum.  Me?  When I looked up the reason why they did it, I might well ban it too.  And that’s just a ‘silly’ example.  There are some much more extreme policies I might go along with if I trusted the government enough.

…which I don’t, especially not the American government, which is rife with incentivization problems, lobbying, and shear incompetence at every level.  For example, Illinois had to amend their state constitution to get their politicians to actually spend the state transportation funds on transportation.

Singapore has the kind of government that freaks out when they go from 70% of the vote to 60% of the vote, which in any other country would be considered a landslide victory, then managed to get back up to 70% of the vote.  

America has the kind of government that needs the occasional large-scale protest because the guys in charge are either dishonest, stupid, or both.

And quite frankly, there is no path to the formation of an American Action Party which then obsoletes one or both of the existing parties and rules America with a studious technocratic fist.

Edit: China, of course, also an authoritarian country in Asia, but they flat-out don’t deserve it.

Source: justsomeantifas politics
ranma-official
ranma-official

Explain this obsession with murdering people who block traffic. People e-brag about shooting them with shotguns or more commonly just plowing into them at full speed on their cars.

mitigatedchaos

Not sure.  I’ve seen people joke about it at least.  Maybe because it’s the only way protesters practically interfere with the daily functioning of their lives?  At least one ambulance has been blocked, though the use of lethal force to disrupt traffic-blocking protests would almost certainly increase net casualties.

I still contend that America is simply not competent enough to enact (as in justify) restriction policies on the level of soft authoritarian countries in Asia.

Source: justsomeantifas politics
thathopeyetlives
ranma-official

@mitigatedchaos

There’s no logical proof that they can declaw all religions equally, or that the distribution of violence is the same at the tails of all otherwise-declawed religions, though.

Religions are declawed in a secular society naturally as long as no deliberate action (that ensues resistance) is taken. Christianity is very heavily fragmented and society in general has done a really good job declawing it. We are at a “you can’t even prove if God exists or not” level right now. That’s an absurd step down from the absolute majority of humanity’s history

slartibartfastibast

What if your religion expressly forbids secular government/society?

ranma-official

Gets declawed and settles down. Most religions are against any government ever overriding religious laws.

slartibartfastibast

How do you prevent reversion to non-secular society when you constantly import (and don’t police) extremely conservative people that have been cousin-marrying since classical antiquity? Do you know about clannishness vs. W.E.I.R.D.ness?

isaacsapphire

The allure of sexy secular people, particularly young women, is an extremely well established method of getting the second generation immigrants to defect from their culture.

thathopeyetlives

Well, the Gods of the Copybook Headings with monkhood and marriage return, I guess. 

I doubt that’s a long term solution. Eventually the sex and apostasy gets boring and then memory and hopes of marriage call one back, maybe to a better place than one was in at first. It happened to me. 

mitigatedchaos

#plz no declaw

You’re Christian.  Your religion’s central idea of martyrdom, as popularly understood, and brutally oversimplified, involves the government nailing some guy to a stick.

And in this sense, “declawed” refers primarily to religiously-motivated violence, though I suppose it also refers to virality, which is also a (longer-term) risk factor.

So as you might gather, it isn’t Christianity with its “render unto Caesar” and liberal democratic governments that I’m worried about.  Nor Buddhism, nor Hinduism…

Anyhow, I think some of the rampant sex culture will decline on its own even without religion, just from people noticing what they previously weren’t socially allowed to notice - most people do seem to emotionally bond from sex, so for most people it really isn’t just some fun casual activity to do with randoms, and also long-term accomplishment tends to build a higher baseline level of happiness than momentary hedonism.

Source: ranma-official religion uncharitable cw
wirehead-wannabe
maddeningscientist

local social corner talks a lot about the Glorious Transhumanist Morphological Freedom Future

but like as commonly described i’m not sure that’s a world where i’d actually want to like

live

u know

maddeningscientist

metagorgon said: ynot?

itsbenedict said: ?

it is v amusing to me that i didn’t expect ppl to find this puzzling

uh non-exhaustive collection of reasons

A) i don’t like being obsolete.  i like solving problems and building cool things and stuff, and i like it when those things are useful.  

a_1) it tends to go along with something resembling Fully Automated Luxury Communism Where Machines Will Do Anything For You If You Ask

a_2) it tends to allow for arbitrary intelligence boosts and/or hivemind creation

a_3) i don’t think i want to live within range of either of those things because A

B) takes a very gung-ho attidute toward modifying minds which i consider a thing to be done Extremely Cautiously

b_1) i should not be able to make significant changes to myself on impulse. especially not irreversible ones.

C) many of the Ideal Forms i have heard described i would not actually ever want to be in the presence of, often due to effects relating to B

D) pettiest objection: monsters are not my aesthetic :V

wirehead-wannabe

E) I REALLY do not want to end up in a Red Queen race where everyone is recklessly modifying themselves so they aren’t at a mental or physical disadvantage relative to their neighbors.

mitigatedchaos

In the future, this era of involuntary death, famine, and war will be thought of as in some ways a more innocent time where the barriers of reality as we intuitively know them were only just starting to break down.

I will miss the year 2007.  However, for those unwilling to die, there is no choice but some level of Transhumanism.

What we do in this time, however, matters perhaps more than at any previous time in human history.  The ideological justifications for Capitalism as a moral system rather than a means to an end (merely a pragmatic choice based on its effectiveness) must be destroyed if total competition is not going to destroy everything we hold dear.

Honestly tho I just want to be Motoko Kusanagi or Hideo Kuze plzthx.

Source: maddeningscientist transhumanism