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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
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argumate

if the thing about people preparing less for hurricanes with female names is true, that suggests that giving all hurricanes female names would apply evolutionary selection pressure against sexism

argumate

morganwintermiller said: Far as I’ve read, it’s not considered accurate. There was a lot of iffy statistical analysis behind it.

kontextmaschine said: It’s an artifact of the fact they used to only get female names so the “female” set tips older with less warning and shoddiest buildings

kontextmaschine said: oh *preparing less* that might be something different, that’s my stock response to the “dying more” statistic

I think you can treat all headlines about gender issues as false and you will be right more than you’re wrong.

mitigatedchaos

I certainly don’t believe any of these things anymore until I’ve seen it verified from someone I trust on these matters.

thathopeyetlives
swan2swan

You know what?

I’m no longer holding Star Trek or Star Wars “accountable” for their clunky-looking sixties-and-seventies future technology.

Why?

Because the Enterprise is off on a years-long voyage through space. There’s no Verizon store, no Radio Shack, no Geek Squad out there. If the Klingons fire photon torpedoes and the bridge shakes and Spock’s head bangs against the fancy iPad72 touchscreen and cracks the glass, the ship’s toast. If Han Solo’s fingerprints get all over the starchart and the touch-calibration is off by half a centimeter, the Falcon is going right into a star. But if Mister Worf accidentally twists the command knob too hard and pops it off, he can just screw that thing right back on and it will keep working. Dust gets in there? Take it apart and clean it out. All the plugs are big and universal, all the power cells are functional and have a decent battery life, and nothing is built to expire in the next six months so you have to buy a new one.

That tech isn’t anachronistic or suffering a bad case of Zeerust–it’s practical, effective, and it works. Apple tried launching its own space exploration craft, it had to come back for full repairs within three months, and then it had to be upgraded over the next two.

But this? This is just good, long-lasting, fully-functional, and reliable craftsmanship.

alexkablob

The actual real-life space shuttles’ electronics looked pretty much like that for their entire lifespan and this is exactly why.

thathopeyetlives

Here, have a fun romp through the world of industrial and military/aerospace electrical technology vendors!


A big point of this stuff: Making it extremely rugged (because enviroments are harsh, having it break is bad, and if you’re in the military people are shooting at you), making it extremely reliable (because you’re dead if it breaks, imagine the equivalent of having an arrow key get stuck down on your computer), and making it easy, or at least possible, to field repair. You might not be able to see the screws and bolts that hold the connectors together, but they are there. No molded-blob-of-plastic USB connectors or featureless monolith ipod cases allowed here. 


(A specific thing that irritates me: The exclusive use of touchscreens or holograms for controls. These are great ways to make a complicated system easier to use or let lots of functions be controlled with a simple panel. However, they can’t be used blind and they lack tactile sense, so they are not good for important stuff like flight controls or turning your engine on and off. Modern fighter jets have a lot more big screens (”glass cockpit”) but flight controls are still your classic joystick with buttons on it. Also, in the military, often instead of a touchscreen you have a row of buttons around the edge of the screen, and the labels for these buttons appear on the screen.)


(This can lead to problems. The USA’s main battle tank contains several tons of copper that’s just carrying weak electrical signals, on a tank that only weighs about 70 tons in the first place. That’s several tons that can’t be armor, ammo, engines, or the gun. There’s a plan to upgrade to fiber optics. One of the reasons that Elon Musk is able to eat the lunch of all the other rocket vendors is by taking a much more liberal approach to this kind of thing. All computers in any military ever are dreadfully obsolete and NASA sometimes needs to lurk Ebay for spare parts. An awful lot of this equipment has been updated to have some basic computer control and internet connectivity but with zero security.)

mitigatedchaos

Okay, but consider this - the entire crew of the Enterprise should be paramilitary cyborgs able to manipulate all this machinery with their thoughts, with manual controls built throughout the ship as a backup.

Source: swan2swan skiffy mitigated fiction
wirehead-wannabe
nostalgebraist

Does anyone else obsess over the idea that they have become mentally worse – less motivated, less energetic, more anhedonic – than their former selves?

I have a habit of assuming this decline is just a known fact, and then thinking a lot about what has changed and how I could reverse those changes.  But in the rare cases when I reflect on it, I realize I have no idea if I’ve declined at all.  I might be comparing the present baseline to highlights of the past, for instance.  Looking around on my computer storage, I can find occasional notes on my mood and motivation from various points in the past (up to 6-7 years ago), but these were all motivated by this same worry, which apparently goes back a ways.

It’s also possible that I really have declined in these ways, but that I’m choosing such a pivotal set of ages (roughly 17-22) for my reference points that I ought to expect decline.

wirehead-wannabe

I definitely declined, but I feel like in hindsight I was always sort of set up for a Fall From Glory, personality- and neurotype-wise :/

mitigatedchaos

I worry about this regularly, but I continue to surprise people with new ideas, so I cannot accurately estimate it, and I think that if I can nail this aerobic exercise and eating and sleeping thing, I will improve again.

If not, we’ll just have to lean on Transhumanism.

Source: nostalgebraist
poipoipoi-2016
hamnox

3 kinds of health insurance

“Hey there’s some low-probability, high-cost health problem that it’s crazy to try to prevent/prepare for on an individual basis, let’s contribute to a communal pool to deal with it when it comes up, maybe with some incentives to keep controllable risk factors down”


“Hey negotiating per product/service on every health maintenance transaction is kinda crazy making, how about I (or my patron) pay a flat monthly fee that cover all my basic needs and you handle the details?”


“I am foreseeably going to need more care as I get older or my disease progresses. Let’s make some sort of social / financial arrangement that leverages this, like I raise kids who will care for me or I give you investment money now and you pay my medical bills later.”

cptsdcarlosdevil

“most people don’t like the policy where we just let disabled people die, but disabled people can often cost tens of thousands of dollars a month or more to keep alive, and they rarely have the high incomes that would enable them to keep themselves alive”

chroniclesofrettek

Ozy, that’s not insurance, that’s charity.

poipoipoi-2016

However unfortunately… This.

Source: hamnox :(
poipoipoi-2016
argumate

fluffshy said: How are you not involved? You have acted as the core of my experience of the social side of rationalists for months.

as far as I know the rationalists hang out on Facebook and the SSC comment section and in the Bay Area and at various meetups in cities around the world, which I’m not involved in.

inferentialdistance

The set of Rationalists is defined as such:

  • Eliezer Yudkowsky is in the set of Rationalists.
  • Anyone who argues with a member of the set of Rationalists is in the set of Rationalists.

The proof of your membership in the set is left as an exercise for the reader.

Source: argumate the rationalists
squareallworthy

Anonymous asked:

Do you honestly think there's any chance that your very intellectual approach to politics will ever translate into a movement radical enough to mobilize people to implement it?

mitigatedchaos answered:

“Very intellectual”

Heh.


Could someone start a knock-off of Singapore’s People’s Action Party and get any seats for it?

Not under the current electoral system in America, though we see elements, bits and pieces can sometimes get through, such as Maine adopting a kind of preference voting for the governor’s seat.  

The polarization into two parties is the natural state of the first-past-the-post, winner-take-all electoral system - you want exactly 51% of the vote in order to have the minimum amount of compromise.  This creates a lot of dumb politics.

There is, after all, no place for me in the Republican Party, nor in the Democratic Party.

However, while a unified party powerful enough to take power may not emerge, some ideas, elements, and legislative reforms could get through.  And if there are subtle changes to the system, then a more unified platform could become viable.

Some of these elements which escape to be adopted by others may be ideological in nature.  Some of my posts on Nationalism have caused some local Rationalists to scratch their heads, wondering “wait, why isn’t that the argument actual American nationalists, in the form of the GOP, actually make?”  Or otherwise they simply have never been exposed to an argument for Nationalism that is more than performative flag-waving, by the kind of person who believes that nations are both real and fake at the same time, that can see them as constructs, but still considers them desirable.  Also, many may not have been exposed to the idea that open borders may be a pathway to an incompetent yet oppressive world government (gradually, over time).

Likewise, in constructing a kind of Social Centrism, most people do not currently have access to arguments against the most liberal positions (on e.g., polygamy) that are rooted in secular considerations and which also take in mind future developments (e.g., Transhumanism).

There is a question - when GOP members exit their current ideological basis, what will they exit to?

By making these arguments, which then are shared, I create a more defensible ideological position of retreat other than just crossing over entirely to the other side.


The ideal body for my politics right now, given conditions, would be a think tank that could conduct research and produce ready-to-sign legislation along pathways that the existing political parties are not currently setup to defend against (insufficient pre-built memetic barriers - battles they don’t even realize they are or will be fighting).  This does not require a mass movement, but rather a fairly good-sized chunk of funding and a core of intelligent and motivated contributors.


On a more mass basis, once a more clear ideology is produced, I think it can be simplified in a way that is more easily communicated…

…though that may still have issues generating sufficient excitement.

squareallworthy

If you are concerned about the polity in a multi-racial society breaking up into a number of racially-aligned parties, then isn’t the two-party system we have in the United States a good idea?

mitigatedchaos

A good question, but is it better to have one “White Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?  

Or one “White + Asian Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?

The real answer, I think, is to knock it the fuck off and realize that Melting Pot + Civic Nationalism is the superior model for racial harmony vs. SJ and its subtextual ethnonationalism and racial intellectual property rights.

Source: mitigatedchaos politics racepol
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flakmaniak

@argumate on the one hand, it seems dubious to poke the bear’s nest by resurrecting the weak men post and its attenant cloud of discourse, but on the other, it’s still hilarious every year how butthurt people were about it. Potentially still are? Haven’t been paying enough attention to know if the discourse is fresh.

argumate

it’s a complicated and it takes time and careful words to unpack.

there are a few posts going around Tumblr of the form “if your friend has to drive you places because you have no car then I will be dating him, not you” followed by general acclamation; yeah girl, respect yourself, etc.

if widely held, this view guarantees one or both of these:

1. you’re damn right there will be a wage gap

2. many people will be dissatisfied with their relationship options

statements seen as being generally “pro-women” are read as non-sexist, even if they have implications which are exceedingly sexist.

for groups to be equal, individuals must be equal; if there is a preference for inequality at the individual level, it’s going to drive inequality at the group level.

one cannot complain about people reacting to an incentive structure that you yourself participate in creating.

Source: flakmaniak gendpol
stumpyjoepete
mitigatedchaos

@rendakuenthusiast

It’s weird that most people don’t pretend to be the other gender online, honestly.

Eh, there’s still existing gender conformity rules (though more for men than for women) saying not to do it, plus I think a lot more people are vaguely comfortable in their gender roles than they let on.

Not that I don’t recommend it.  I have many faces, and I like to let people assume.

shieldfoss

If you end up being the person running the @argumate account, I am going to be livid.

mitigatedchaos

We are all running the Argumate account, ShieldFoss. The steady and unrestrained stream of anons assures that the Argumate blog is a democratic and participatory process.

squareallworthy

We are all argumate, but none of us know it, because argumate is a Chinese Room whose output is determined by symbols that we pass around to each other without knowing their meaning. 

stumpyjoepete

Chinese-Australian room, surely.

mitigatedchaos

If all owl possible owl hoots from all possible worlds in all possible contexts are placed into a lookup table, is the resulting lookup table an owl?
- anonymous, On the Nature of @argumate​, 2054

Source: mitigatedchaos shtpost