Oceans Yet to Burn

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

So uh… about these hurricanes

[poipoipoi-2016]

So there’s been this interesting pattern where the places that are habitable after global warming are also the places with housing restrictions.  

At which point everyone despairs of ever living in the 80 degree parts of LA and moves to 120 degree Vegas at a tenth the price.  (Or at least the 109 degree parts of LA a couple mountain ranges away).   

And right now, it sure looks like the fastest growing cities and regions in the country are either the sort of place where an extra 5F gets people killed or the sort of place where you get semi-regular hurricanes.  

So uh… what happens when people try to flee north and can’t?  

[garmbreak1]

massive pressure on the Canadian government to allow unrestricted immigration, probably.

which we’ll cave to without anything in return

probably.

[poipoipoi-2016]

The population of the South census region is 120 Million, the population of Canada is 30 Million, and a mild exodus of admittedly rich Asians from a single city-state destroyed an entire province in under a decade (And then actual China got involved and things got worse).  

Even if you wanted to take them all, you physically couldn’t.  

Which is really sort of my question here.  The only places in America that are growing are probably places that we don’t want growing because they’re not terribly nice places to live.  What happens if/when they become uninhabitable?  

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[mitigatedchaos]

Broke: Lowering immigration is racist because immigrants are predominantly non-white, and therefore any opposition to immigration necessarily stems from white supremacist racism.

Woke: Not lowering immigration is racist, because bringing in better unskilled or low-skilled employees disproportionately hurts those in our society who are the worst off in terms of health, education, family structure, and contact with the criminal justice system, and that is very much skewed, racially, in our country. Support for mass immigration is just white people showing off how tolerant they are while pushing off the costs on other groups.

[defectivealtruist]

immigrants don’t count as people worth helping, apparently

[mitigatedchaos]

If you’re going to make the tradeoff, admit you’re making the tradeoff.  Don’t lie and call everyone else racist.

Rationalist Tumblr does reasonably well at that.  The Democratic Party and its pundits and associated left wing political operatives do not.

Likewise, don’t heavily restrict the construction of new housing units while calling for mass immigration and becoming viscerally upset at any attempt to slow immigration and insulting the people that want to slow immigration, then complain about high housing prices.

Which is, once again, something Rationalist Tumblr does much better than the Democratic Party.

And quite frankly, I see no reason to believe the latter will improve.

Maybe you do, but I suspect that instead, SJ will eat you alive.

[poipoipoi-2016]

Related: 

My position on immigration is basically a function of the national rent/income ratio.  

Because either we’re a growing nation that invites in immigrants, or we’re not, but the one thing we’d better damn well not be is a nation that invites in another couple hundred million people this century and then forces everybody to live with roommates with hellish commutes down choked, collapsing, under-provisioned infrastructure (like the Bay Area presently does).  

[mitigatedchaos]

This is what I mean, in small part.

The change, the increase in housing stock for an increase in population, is part of the Happy Liberal Land that Rattumb readers must deliver.

I believe in Nationalism, but how willing am I to fight for it?  How willing am I to invent new forms of it that may spread in the 21st century?  The nation-state is not dead yet.  It isn’t even doomed.  The idea that it is, is a Liberal fantasy.  

I am willing to fight for it to the degree that you fail.

(*not you, poipoipoi)

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

I am here to tell you how to achieve the Happy Liberal Land through the steps you refuse to enact, and to leverage you to enact them by creating and supporting an alternative that you want to destroy.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

The ultimate approach is to take advantage of the fact that they already control the food and water supply of their employees, and simply dose them with plastics until they achieve the desired gender balance.

(via rationalists-out-of-context)

Putting the humor aside – this does create awkward questions for the trans discourse.  I mean, in a hypothetical world where Google has achieved rough gender parity, but 90% of the women are trans women, would that actually be taken as resolving the problem that people are complaining about?

(Yes, I understand that not enough people are trans for this to be more than a hypothetical.  Least convenient possible parallel universe…)

As long as the intentional dosing plan was secret, or merely crackpot rumors, yeah, if anything that would be more satisfactory than an even ratio of biowomen, to literally everyone except the radfems/second wavers and conservatives who disapprove of both women in the workplace and trans people.

(via isaacsapphire)

This is why one should not say “achieving gender parity at Google is my terminal value.”

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[mitigatedchaos]

Broke: Lowering immigration is racist because immigrants are predominantly non-white, and therefore any opposition to immigration necessarily stems from white supremacist racism.

Woke: Not lowering immigration is racist, because bringing in better unskilled or low-skilled employees disproportionately hurts those in our society who are the worst off in terms of health, education, family structure, and contact with the criminal justice system, and that is very much skewed, racially, in our country. Support for mass immigration is just white people showing off how tolerant they are while pushing off the costs on other groups.

[defectivealtruist]

immigrants don’t count as people worth helping, apparently

[mitigatedchaos]

If you’re going to make the tradeoff, admit you’re making the tradeoff.  Don’t lie and call everyone else racist.

Rationalist Tumblr does reasonably well at that.  The Democratic Party and its pundits and associated left wing political operatives do not.

Likewise, don’t heavily restrict the construction of new housing units while calling for mass immigration and becoming viscerally upset at any attempt to slow immigration and insulting the people that want to slow immigration, then complain about high housing prices.

Which is, once again, something Rationalist Tumblr does much better than the Democratic Party.

And quite frankly, I see no reason to believe the latter will improve.

Maybe you do, but I suspect that instead, SJ will eat you alive.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[sadoeconomist]

My 67-year-old mother saw a callout video on YouTube and now she’s furious and she’s trying to get involved in some kind of cyberbullying campaign over it, but she doesn’t know how to leave comments without using her real name

She wants me to help her set up another account in her cat’s name so she can send anon hate to this random arts and crafts vlogger who committed a minor act of plagiarism

This is the lamest of all possible cyberpunk dystopian futures

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[jessandhernewsillyblog]

Leave the DPRK the fuck alone. Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone.  Leave the DPRK the fuck alone. 

[argumate]

China’s hawks find their voice as Kim infuriates Beijing

[mitigatedchaos]

I hope Xi Jinping personally punches Kim Jong Un in the face.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[obiternihili]

I feel like you could make a point in a bias/perspective class by ahead of time getting the unfamiliar names down phonetically so that on your first day taking attendance you could make a show by pronouncing their names correctly but mispronouncing all the names like “John Smith”, “Fred Williams” or “Susan McKenzie”.

Just like in a “Hey class there are subtle little shitty things like this that just exist for some people and if I didn’t go out of my way to do this chances are like half of you would never experience it once even though it’s happening like four times a day to everyone else”

[rendakuenthusiast]

“The very presence of foreign immigrants is changing your culture for the worse, Trumpian immigration restrictionism is in your interest”

[mitigatedchaos]

@obiternihili

@rendakuenthusiast Where the fuck are you getting that? White chicks are able to come with names like Zarowski or Tegan or Kanada or whatever.

I’ll tell you where he’s getting it - this kind of exercise implies that the immigrants would would not have to deal with those terrible, horrible incorrect name pronunciations if the immigrants weren’t in the country, and that the students wouldn’t be experiencing this kind of bias exercise designed to tell them that they’re bad people for not knowing more than a miniscule fraction of the hundreds (if not thousands?) of languages on Earth.

People in the nations of origins of the immigrants may well not pronounce their names right, either.  It hits them with a unidirectional moral weight, unless handled very carefully.

…and it won’t be handled carefully, because SJ is a culture weapon.

People can sense the political intent on an intuitive level - and it is political.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

bottom of the stinking 9th

[stumpyjoepete]

Apropos of nothing, some free-association shitposting:
- Western propaganda with Chinese characteristics
- Disrupt the four olds!
- Have fewer children, raise more pigs*
- Running dogs are pets, not meat! #stopyulin
- Black cat, white cat, if it buys Coca Cola™, it’s a good cat. (Deng Xiaoping, probably)
- 1 billion served and counting
- Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred firms contend
- As Chinese as 老干妈 and 苹果“牌”!

* This one was actually real, bizarrely enough

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

When talking about monstergirls, we are talking about something that is both greater and lesser than human.  More powerful, sometimes overwhelmingly so, while also more animalistic and wild.  Sexual, enthusiastic, playful.

What men want, the longing in their hearts, is to be wanted.  To be validated, in the only way that masculinity can be.

The straight female fantasy of her own overwhelming desirability taming a terrifying and powerful, yet handsome and charming creature, more masculine than any mere man, and monopolizing it to her own ends, is matched in its male mirror.