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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
argumate
argumate

in the past I kind of dissed Greg Egan for overlooking the possibility of Islamic terrorism, but his (fictional) predictions of resurgent Aryan Nationalist groups in the near future seem increasingly reasonable, even if he didn’t quite get the memetic background entirely right, focusing more on a kind of New Age woo than the clusterfuck of retreads from the 1930s mixed with Pepe memes that we actually ended up with.

one of the things that does feel very real is the concept of “science” treated as a political football getting kicked around by nominally leftist and rightist groups whose connection to reality grows ever more tenuous

mitigatedchaos

Well, when you combine people getting excited about demographic replacement with people who still pretty unapologetically believe in Collective Ethnic Intergenerational Justice, then of course ethnic majority ethnic nationalism is going to rise.

If you got dudes talking like they’re going to take ‘revenge’ for stuff that happened decades or even centuries ago, well, that’s the basis of a lot of “ethnic tension” and ethnic violence.

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adjoint-law

Quick question to Evolution

shieldfoss

What degenerate branch of my ancestry managed to survive - and thrive - with the instinctual response to warm weather “Yeah I should slip out of this vitally protective covering (: (: (:”

argumate

gonna guess it’s the branch that hadn’t fucked up their melanin, probably

adjoint-law

“fucked up”

Ok but what if the evolution of lighter skin was in fact Scandinavian minimalism

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argumate

urpriest asked:

Is "dudebro" even about masculinity though? It's making fun of frat boys, which is a more specific thing, with connotations of immaturity. I don't think an equally masculine term like "sirgentleman" would catch on as much without those associations.

argumate answered:

It may have begun with frat boys, but it’s clearly metastasised; if you replace all occurrences of dudebro with frat boy the results are incoherent.

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mitigatedchaos
80sretroelectro

Ok a little bit political

I’m glad I don’t have a brainless racist narcist demented idiot for president. Oh and, when he got elected I already predicted this would lead to a new civil war.

mitigatedchaos

Aren’t you in Europe?

Come now, you Europeans love America! That’s why you’re trying to turn Europe into America after all, with internal open borders, a federal government, a unified currency, and the emergence of a monoculture founded on those three traits, which has only minor regional differences in culture.

Soon you’ll have your own New New York, with your very own Orange Man. It’ll be great.

mitigatedchaos

@urb-nist 

@mitigatedchaos​ What do you know about Europeans? We have some sort of hate-love for you guys.

Look, mate.

Trump complaints from Euros just convince Trump’s base that Trump is on the right path, especially in the form of “brainless narcissist” etc.  

It often goes hand-in-hand with an idea of Europeans as the more Cultured and Refined civilization - but the kinds of people that expressed those ideas in America are also the ones put their cultural and economic interests ahead of the Rust Belt voters that gave Trump the Presidency, and frequently insulted them (and celebrated their demographic replacement).  

Trump’s base has a negative amount of trust for them.

So that makes the post a good opportunity to dunk on the European Union as a project by pointing out the irony involved.

The reason the US dollar functions well despite spanning a continent, while the Euro has contributed to the collapse in Greece, is a combination of US Federal government spending and higher labor mobility, which evens out the spread of dollars.  The spending and issuing of currency are unified at the same level of government, allowing them to work together.  (This can also kinda work with some separation if the economies are similar enough.)

That is not the case in the EU, where the currency issuing and government spending are separated, and the government performance levels are quite dissimilar.

To unify them, it would be necessary to shift even more power to the EU government (which is apparently happening).  To make a true European Federation, not a mere European Union.  That would make Europe much more similar to America in structure.

Secondly, it requires the increased labor mobility.  Cultural uniqueness grows in environments with friction that allow drift from other cultures and cuts the rate of memetic transmission, and the increased overhead of communication, up to a certain level, makes business harder rather than easier.  (Think language barriers as an example.)

So all those people moving around to where the money is will start to converge on a more unified culture as a means of doing business more easily (like having only one or two languages that they all share!), just like in the United States of America.  Cultural traditions will spread more quickly and widely, meaning there will be fewer of them.  Cultural preferences, too, will be more evenly distributed throughout the Continent.

Plus this whole thing about “increasing diversity” by importing large numbers of foreigners like America will also erode the local traditions as they do not share them.  Instead, they’ll buy into the new broader Euroculture.

So Europeans are complaining about the American President while taking the steps required to make Europe much more like America - eventually France and Germany will be no more different from each other than New York state and Illinois.

Anyhow, only going halfway at it is actually even worse, as it causes things like the situation in Greece.  Either be a true Federation or be independent nations.

And yes, I know not all European countries are in the EU, or have the same level of integration into the EU.  After all, Britain kept the Pound (a decision I agree with).

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80sretroelectro
80sretroelectro

Ok a little bit political

I’m glad I don’t have a brainless racist narcist demented idiot for president. Oh and, when he got elected I already predicted this would lead to a new civil war.

mitigatedchaos

Aren’t you in Europe?

Come now, you Europeans love America! That’s why you’re trying to turn Europe into America after all, with internal open borders, a federal government, a unified currency, and the emergence of a monoculture founded on those three traits, which has only minor regional differences in culture.

Soon you’ll have your own New New York, with your very own Orange Man. It’ll be great.

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mitigatedchaos
nuclearspaceheater

More work towards achieving Total Artist Unemployment.

mitigatedchaos

Aloha Argumate-Senpai!: Discourse Beach inches closer to defictionalization.

mitigatedchaos

But anyhow, note the limitations.  I don’t think we’ll actually get Total Artist Unemployment, because these artificial NNs don’t do general reasoning, which limits their capabilities (apparently also true for self-driving cars).

However, I can imagine a future in which 10x as much manga-style stuff is created, and the media ecosystem is even more fragmented as micro-genres emerge.  Attention resources are limited, though, so we’ll see.

mitigatedchaos

Anyhow, someone needs to use this as the avatar generator for a comment system like SSC has.  That would be hilarious.

@slatestarscratchpad brah you need to get on this

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mitigatedchaos
nuclearspaceheater

More work towards achieving Total Artist Unemployment.

mitigatedchaos

Aloha Argumate-Senpai!: Discourse Beach inches closer to defictionalization.

mitigatedchaos

But anyhow, note the limitations.  I don’t think we’ll actually get Total Artist Unemployment, because these artificial NNs don’t do general reasoning, which limits their capabilities (apparently also true for self-driving cars).

However, I can imagine a future in which 10x as much manga-style stuff is created, and the media ecosystem is even more fragmented as micro-genres emerge.  Attention resources are limited, though, so we’ll see.

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nuclearspaceheater
nuclearspaceheater

More work towards achieving Total Artist Unemployment.

mitigatedchaos

Aloha Argumate-Senpai!: Discourse Beach inches closer to defictionalization.

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fierceawakening
fierceawakening

The other thing about people demanding Nazi punching and saying anyone who chooses nonviolence is a coward is…

…I get the very strong impression fights are exactly what Nazis want.

Just look at the Pr00d B0ys’ “degrees.”

mitigatedchaos

I tried to explain this to someone and got accused of “defending Nazis.”  (Though not about the PBs specifically; I haven’t kept an eye on them.)

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