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This has to be the world’s most annoying thread; cousin marriage is actually really common!

In south India, where I’m from, cousin marriage has always been really common, till the recent past when some combination of Brit control, north Indian cultural dominance and urbanisation changed the norms.

I know people whose grandparents married their cousins. And, surprises galore, these people are not possessed by a singular will to always be eating.

Literally, open the wikipedia page:

“According to Professor Robin Fox of Rutgers University, 80% of all marriages in history may have been between second cousins or closer.“

“Charles Darwin and his wife Emma were first cousins.“ And then their descendants have done so much awesome shit that there’s a really long wikipedia page about them.

I mean, come one guys, find it icky as you want, norm-mandated gut reactions aren’t subject to reason, but at least open the wikipedia page before prophesying the death of society.

Something doesn’t have to result in the total death of society to be a bad idea.

According to that same Wikipedia page, Europe banned cousin marriage as a continuation of Roman law.  What are the GDP/caps of nations with low cousin marriage rates vs high cousin marriage rates?  Why did studies find an inverse relation between cousin marriage and Democracy?

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Then, of course, there is the Genetics section of that same page, which, while it might not have much issue with the first generation of cousin marriage, makes it clear that it can become a problem if it’s ongoing in a population.

I mean seriously man,

The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with [recessive] genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability.

Do you have any idea how much money that costs?  And more importantly, the wealth that money represents?  We might as well create ten thousand tons of steel and throw it into the sea.

It’s noted that it could be due to other factors of population-limited breeding, but that means those other population-limited breeding norms should also be removed.

I’m just not seeing how social advantages outweigh it at the current genetic technology level.  It seems much wiser to head off these problems before they start than to spend tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars on medications and possibly later cybernetic prostheses.

And I can’t leave it as an individual choice due to political reasons - the dominant Western morality won’t allow increased medical fee taxes on the child for something the parents did.  If it’s allowed and becomes widespread, somehow I am going to have to end up paying for it.

I don’t actually care to heap scorn on Darwin.  That isn’t the point.  I don’t trust people to be judicious without the taboo, and the taboo cannot be restored once it’s gone.

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What neither side of US politics wants to admit: the promotion of identity politics combined with the declining white super majority has led to turbo charged white identity politics. Since Dems catered for non-white identity politics, Trump and the GOP took hold of white identity politics.  

Most countries that do not have a 70%+ super majority ethnic group have ethnicized electoral politics.

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Yes, my fear is that Lee Kuan Yew is right.

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I actually suspect that the switch to identity politics over class politics may have been based on a growing ineffectiveness of class politics.

“BUT THE POOR!” lost ground as more cached arguments were built up against it, even if it wasn’t entirely justified.

“BUT RACISM!” still had a lot of bite and could circumvent some of those cached arguments.  So, it’s natural to shift to it and build the platform around it.

It had a lot of bite, anyway.

There was always the focus on what was morally right, even in the minds of people who claimed they didn’t believe in morality, over what was effective policy, so now we get a lot of talk about guilt, or about pie in the sky ideas of “dismantling the systems of X oppression requires dismantling capitalism” (and people remember how “we need to dismantle capitalism” went last time), and not so much about “we should distribute multivitamins to the poor.”

I mean, that does sometimes get through, but the zeitgeist doesn’t seem to care about it as much as it cares about language policing and thinks that beneficial policies will just naturally unfold once everyone acknowledges their sin.

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It's not how white you are on the outside that counts, but how white you are, in your heart.

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Leukemia is not actually a good thing, anon. If your blood is over-saturated with white cells then please seek medical assistance.

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I just saw an article last week suggesting that using identity politics in the US was a bad plan because the majority can practice identity politics, too, and the definition of “white” has expanded in the past.

I’m pretty hyped.  What exciting new races or ethnic groups will be considered “white” in the future?  Could Asian-Latin fusion cuisine become the next official white people food?  When will they be issued their official White Man™ polo shirts?

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Tbh I really like your politics but find your writing style and incessant self-meming insufferable.

The memeing (#augmented reality break, #chronofelony, #the year is, etc) serves several purposes…

  1. Provide a break from the politics for people that do like it (which is some of them - the guy tagged in the last post about a children’s rhyme on the cybersecurity of cybernetic augmentations almost immediately liked it)
  2. Lower the tone of the blog from Serious Politics into something more playful (and more closely matching my actual energy/focus/seriousness levels)
  3. Obscure my race and sex, which both constitute potential Discourse Attack Surfaces
  4. Fuck over certain kinds of blog attacks by pre-establishing a range for spontaneous tone-shifting.  Various bad-faith social attacks do not deserve a serious response, but regular counter-attacks are too much effort, too, and silence isn’t always appropriate.  The meme persona is an option for twisting and distorting these attacks into something that their authors did not intend and against which they do not have pre-existing defenses.  (Some people put warding symbols on their blogs for this instead.)  

As for the writing style, it is what it is, you either read it or you don’t.

If you only want the actual serious stuff, I recommend the #flagpost and #policy tags.

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Although, if anything, that post about healthcare costs is perhaps a better summary of my current politics than any.

Efficiency - in government, in the private sector, anywhere - doesn’t just mean some nice bonus that lets rich people we don’t care about have more sports cars.  

As efficiency and production increase, you stop having to triage.  If one unit of sovereign services costs $1.00 to deliver and you have $1.00, then you can purchase only one unit.  If one unit of sovereign services costs $0.50, then you can purchase two.  

If there were two of you and you collectively only had one dollar to spend, then in the first case you have to fight about who gets that one unit of sovereign services, and in the second case you don’t.  

The adequate planning of cities and efficient distribution of resources are absolutely vital.  Surplus regulations don’t just have a cost in corporate bureaucrat annoyance, but in bus stops.  

Private property, government regulations, wealth redistribution… these are tools, not moral imperatives.

Now I know many people would say “sure, but my politics is about using them correctly as tools,” and for some people that’s true.  But a lot of the time that’s not what we see in practice.

So the great question, I think, is how we can make systems of governance better, to promote better and more accurate approaches to policy that more effectively accomplish what will benefit people.

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Hell, why don’t we re-enact Sherman’s march and raze the US south, the southern US is full of shitty people with shitty politics.  Maybe burn down all Mormon churches and compounds, they got both nasty shit going on and nasty politics.

I get you wanna piss your fuckin pants because it’s those dirty furriners doing those dirty furriner crimes, but horrible shit didn’t start with immigration and it won’t end when it’s cut off.

Things being bad is not a reason to make them worse.  (This part of the problem with arguments about alcohol/drugs, too.)

We have no obligation to import these people.  We do not have an obligation to import people that will make the country worse.  We don’t have an obligation to tolerate criminal acts favored by their cultures, or tear our national social cohesion to shreds to tolerate those acts.

So some fringe groups of Mormons are still polygamists and practice shady things with young brides and that sort of thing.  Oh look, Westerners doing a bad thing.  Better import enough people that have similar practices so that it becomes normalized and gains political power!  That’ll sure improve things!  Yay justice!

but horrible shit didn’t start with immigration and it won’t end when it’s cut off.

How much FGM was happening in the US before it was imported?  It won’t stop now if immigration is shut off only because we won’t literally kick all those who practice it out of the country.

Kicking out only individuals who are actually convicted of it is the individualist approach.  And it makes sense.  The preconditions for citizenship included not bringing foreign criminal/terrorist activity to this country.  Those preconditions were violated.

In light of that, how does removing citizenship not make sense?

And I don’t really think the problem we have is “We don’t execute criminals grotesquely enough.“  I think there’s a reason why we don’t do that sort of thing anymore.  If you wanted to heighten investigation, that could make sense, but public executions don’t really help anyone.

It apparently cost $500,000 to prosecute three guys, and the number of crimes committed is far worse.

However, “diversity” ideology covered up that the crimes were even happening in the first place.  Admitting that some cultures practice this bullsht more than others was “racist”.  I mean it’s just economics, right?  Cultural differences beyond food aren’t real, right?

What is your plan to force assimilation on this issue?

Maybe we don’t have to publicly execute them.  Maybe we can just ordinarily execute them and make sure it gets in the news where their buddies we read it.  

Maybe I don’t even want to go that far.  Maybe I just want to throw the Overton Window far enough to the right that Cultural Antirealism will die and Left/Libs will at least start admitting that there is a problem and we can get a gentler solution that actually works.

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The politics of any country would be greatly improved if the politicians had such a sense of shame when they fucked up that they committed seppuku on their own.

But if they had shame, would they still be politicians?

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