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argumate

people (very briefly) wrote about Bannon as if he was this erudite mastermind of fascist strategy, but I think the narrative will collapse faster than his attempts at passing legislation.

Dubya’s cronies had been kicking around in Washington for decades and had far more institutional experience and they were still a clumsy pack of ideocrats; you wouldn’t expect Bannon to be even on their level.

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mitigatedchaos said: Yeah, I’m going to dredge all the fascist panic up and shove it in peoples’ faces in 4 years at this rate, probably.

“don’t worry, we survived Donald Trump didn’t we?”

“this is different! if you vote for Chelsea Clinton people will die!”

mitigatedchaos

Not everyone is going to survive any given Presidency.  Lots of people didn’t survive the Obama Presidency, for instance.

Rather, the specific complaint in this case was that Trump was Fascist and would somehow turn the US into some sort of authoritarian state far exceeding the existing level of wasteful authority.

I’m confident that isn’t going to happen.  Trump is not going to be a military dictator or three-term President.

I’ve been rather annoyed with it, along with the claims of Xism leveled at all opponents, the no-platforming, the enthusiasm for punching ‘Nazis’ that inevitably ends up pepper-spraying bitcoin enthusiasts and cheering physical violence against Libertarians, the racism itself…

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This is a drawing I finished today [July 20, 2017] to represent the kind of president we could have (if he was a sane individual, of course) but we just don’t for various reasons. If you are a Trump supporter you aren’t allowed to interact with this post. […]

Have we reached Maximum Trump?

I dare to say that no, we have not!

Total saturation of the airwaves has not been achieved.  Somewhere out there, there continue to be TV broadcasts which contain NO MENTION of Donald J. Trump, the first Meme-American President of the United States of America.

This will not do.

The amount of Trump must be increased.

Projections under the previous Trump First Initiative showed that merely amplifying the existing Trump will not do due to local radio spectrum saturation, supported by a number of field tests.  It was for this reason that the Trump First Initiative was scrapped.

My colleagues in the Mecha-Bannonite program were pessimistic and skeptical after the cancellation of Trump First.  They said no increase in the memetic saturation of Trump was possible.

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I know he’s the president

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but he lies. He never tells the truth. So, why do newspapers put everything he says in the headlines?  It’s not true.  We know it’s not true and even if some thing true was accidentally said, how would we know? 

The boy who cried wolf (in Russian). 

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Why are liberals like this?

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OP kind of has a point though. Trump plays the media like puppets, and they just go along with it like absolute saps.

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They don’t care about the country, so all that’s left is ratings. And boy golly gee does Mr. Trump-san bring in the ratings.

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Looking to 2020, there’s only one way Trump can surely win from here and that’s a Zuckerberg/Chelsea Clinton runoff for the Democratic nomination.

The good news is I’m 60% sure something close to this will happen because there’s only one party as bad at playing its hand as the GOP and that’s the Democrats.

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I mean, give it some time and we’ll see.  I’m still forecasting a 50% chance of reelection.

But yeah, the Democrats are almost that dumb.

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Look, I know you guys all think this is evil.  And it’s probably not preferable to ending jus soli and issuing more legitimate agricultural visas/etc.

But despite all the people on Facebook talking about how the guy is a nightmare monster from the darkest dreams of the Alt Right come to life, I’m telling you right now that he has a non-trivial chance of re-election unless the Democrats get their shit together.

I pegged it at 50% earlier, reduced it to 40%, but it isn’t a 10% chance or less.

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We won’t know if the Trump Presidency was properly bad until later.  The Left/Libs cannot be trusted to be honest in their criticisms, or consistent.  They’ll attack using whatever they can - they even btched about him eating steak “wrong”.  

If you get swamped with maximal criticism no matter what, you might as well just ignore the criticism and go with your own conscience.  

It isn’t that I think he’s great.  It’s that you can’t trust people who were completely blindsided, and who are ideologically pre-committed to opposition, to accurately evaluate the situation.  You wouldn’t trust most right-wing pundits on Obama, after all.

Trump bowled over the mainstream Republicans because he had three core issues - less trade, less (stupid) war, less immigration.  He will be judged by whether he meets those goals, not left-wing goals about maximizing undefinable “diversity”.

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This makes sense if you assume the goal was to establish the credibility of future military threats, which is reasonable 2D international relations chess.  Previous Trump strategies (gambits?) have involved relatively extreme opening offers followed by negotiating down to something more in line with the original plan.

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Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line.  U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield.

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mitigatedchaos

Hmn…

In her first interview since her stunning presidential election defeat by Republican rival Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for the United States to bomb Syrian air fields.

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Asked whether she now believes that failing to take a tougher stand against Syria was her worst foreign policy mistake as secretary of state under President Barack Obama, Clinton said she favored more aggressive action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

“I think we should have been more willing to confront Assad,” Clinton said in the interview, conducted by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof.

“I really believe we should have and still should take out his air fields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them.”

Clinton noted that she had advocated for a no-fly zone in Syria after leaving government, something that Obama opposed.

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So, which timeline doesn’t result in this attack?  And did we perhaps luck out on this one, in that Trump merely picked vehicles located at only one facility to strike?

Although based on Russian reactions my temporary spike in estimated risk of nuclear war has subsided.

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honestly if you call trump anything other than his actual name I immediately start discounting your opinion no matter how much I otherwise agree with you.
calling him “drumpf” or “45” or whatever other bullshit you’ve come up with doesn’t like, hurt the trump brand or hurt his feelings in any meaningful way. you’re just being an idiot.

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Orange Capitalism Man. The Orange Man. Our First Meme-American President.

- neutral on Trump, calls him other things so left/libs panicking he’ll become the next Fuhrer don’t immediately stop listening

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I’m an anarchosocialist, not a neolib. Don’t “*I* will be forced to fight them” me, like you’re some kind of hero. Their ideology is already out of date for being morally wrong, saying genetic technology is what will end them implies that the genetic “problems” they present actually need solutions. Violence against fascists is the only option against fascists. They cannot be debated since their ideology is grounded in hatred not logic, they cannot be appeased as they will always ask for more, they have to brutally crushed/scared into disbanding. 
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  1. The strategy of street fighting the Fascists in Germany failed so badly that Hitler came to power and nearly took over Europe.  If he had been a bit more competent he might have succeeded and the Third Reich could still exist today.  This strategy has already been tried, and it already failed.
  2. Antifa have pepper-sprayed bitcoin enthusiasts, destroyed immigrants’ cars, harassed business students, and so on.  If the violence were limited to just actual fascists/WNs it would probably be possible to get away with it.  It isn’t.  Instead it’s playing right into the hands of groups who say that “no white is safe”.  By all appearances, Antifa like punching and the feel of righteous indignation more than they value actually bothering to check who is and is not an actual Nazi before punching them.  This makes people who are not Nazis suddenly very concerned about the safety of Nazis.
  3. If someone is converted to Fascism, there is no reason to think they cannot be deconverted from Fascism.  There have already been very successful attempts to deconvert Klansmen, who you would very likely claim are also motivated entirely by hatred and must be destroyed by force.  Deconversion is morally preferable to extermination and also results in ideological evaporative cooling, leaving only the craziest members who will seem less credible.
  4. Deconverting them requires the ability to make credible claims that there is not a plan afoot to demographically replace them.  You, and the Democratic Party, cannot effectively make this claim.  You probably think that the rise of Trump is a scathing indictment of American racism, and not the result of a direct correlation between premature death rates for middle-aged whites and % Trump votes on a county-by-county basis.  There are a number of large holes for rival ideologies to exploit which could have been prevented entirely by buying off the white working class (and so on), but the Left was not politically willing to pay the cost of closing them.  The mainstream Republican establishment wasn’t willing to pay them either, which is why they got knocked over like a bunch of bowling pins by a populist with little political experience.
    1. Not to mention that a lot of the pro-diversity ideology is contradictory or implicitly accepts some of their frame, as I have specified.  People can notice the hypocrisy.  It went under the radar when there was less stress in the system, and in fact I quietly supported keeping it under the radar in order to keep the amount of racism low (this is after all a multiracial country), but all of these terrorist attacks in the West have blown the lid off.  New ideological tools must be developed to repair the situation.
    2. Speaking of ideological tools, some old ones must be revived.  The cultural mosaic model creates ethnic tensions.  It’s time to explicitly bring back Melting Pot.  Not bringing it back just gives people reason to wage culture war for the supremacy of their own culture.
  5. With advances in genetic technology, white nationalism becomes largely obsolete not just on the premises of its opponents, but on its own premises.  Most ideologues these days are not effectively dealing with the looming spectre of Transhumanism that is due to arrive within decades.  Nervous-system-controlled robotic limbs, vat-grown organs, and genetic selection technology are already here, they just aren’t up to par yet.  Most ideologies will have to be changed significantly to accommodate.  The reason I brought this up is because, while it’s a weakness for the mainstream, it’s a much more glaring weakness for WNs that is not being adequately exploited.
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