I understand that having your field constantly mocked for being arcane and boring is unpleasant, but can you please not do the same to other people? For the love of every fucking god ever to walk this blighted earth, you’d think it’d be obvious that the weirdoes need to stick together.
but nooooooo, clearly anyone who can Do Maths is superior and anyone who says “art is very important to most people” in slightly imprecise terms is Wrong.
Unless you want to live in a fucking stone cube with no decoration and eat soylent for every meal, art is fucking essential.
Also, that article was about art’s role in CHALLENGING AUTHORITARIAN REGIMES and why authoritarian regimes always crack down on it. I get why the quote might hit a nerve with someone, but the broad point about how when authoritarianism is increasing, that is EXACTLY THE WRONG TIME to decide art is frivolous or harass creators for not making exactly what you want, is not just a correct one but a vital one.
There was a great YouTube video I watched earlier about why political satire is vitally important, along similar lines. I wasn’t sure if I should bother to link it.
…I’ll be looking that up again now.
The presumption that anyone who values the arts clearly can’t do math was incredible, as well.
Like, I can. Not particularly high-level math, but when I was actually doing it in school on a regular basis, I could actually more than handle math.
My belief in the value of art and my decision to make a career and a life in it has nothing whatsoever to do with my ability or lack thereof to do math.
I noticed that too.
Art vs Math is a false dichotomy.
Also… A lot of mathematicians spend a lot of time thinking about the aesthetics and beauty of the math they’re doing! Math *itself* is arguably the art of logic.
Yes!
My reaction to “I am Mathy, unlike you Art Weirdo” is “Dude, have you ever SEEN a fractal?”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_beauty
Huh, I’m surprised that I didn’t know this wiki article existed. But like, 300% on topic.
OP clearly started with the “Art vs. Math“ meme. The nerd faction (bpd-anon, promethea, nuclearspacetheater, me) was pushing the “High Art vs. Low Art vs. Kitsch vs Gebrauchskunst” meme.
People who are “Arty” in the notes, as opposed to “Nerdy“, are pushing this math meme. People who think they are are good at math see no contradiction, which may or may not be ironic.
@bpd-anon said:
There is nothing recent in art museums nearly as good as what’s being made on Deviantart tbh
That sentiment is not anti-art or pro-math. It’s anti state funding and anti bullshit signalling games.
Maybe the counterfactual you need to understand this would be: Imagine the budget of the NEA’ was fixed, and every year every citizen of your country could vote via approval voting for one big project being funded. For the last three years, the grant went to a joint movie grant proposal by Seth Rogen, Michael Bay and Tyler Perry. The produced movies can be streamed for free by citizens.
Would you vote for your favourite high art proposal, or would you campaign to abolish the NEA’? Would you expect Michael Bay to win again? Is it the will of the people? If you abolished this NEA’, would Michael Bay be out of a job?
