mitigatedchaos

We cannot go inward any further than the whole self entity because all of them are linked as part of one entity, and we cannot go outward because there is a discernible difference between one self and another self.

No dude, we actually can go further because it’s still causally relevant.  We can also use physical interventions such as drugs or magnets or surgery or injury to act on the subindividual level.

The subcomponents are relevant in the self level, that’s the point, they are as much a part of the self level as your conscious, controlled thinking. I’ve said as much several times over.

So it isn’t consciousness that’s central to moral liability anymore.  Either demonstrate that it’s still necessary for your system, or that starfish over there violated my NAP.

I have not asserted all internal layers should be dismissed, I’ve actually stated they are merely part of the self.

By saying your position such that they don’t have an impact on the moral liability, you have effectively stated that they should be dismissed.

You have not argued why they should be considered distinct, when we’re discussing the morality of actors.

They are causally relevant and in that sense sufficiently distinct.  You are discussing the morality of aircraft, I’m saying it’s fair game to talk about the morality of the pilots.

They exist as distinct entities, but the sublayers are not distinct, they’re part of a whole, that’s why we call them sublayers, or subcomponents, or so on.

They are actually sufficiently distinct, that’s why they can be altered.

Your subconcious mind is still you.

Again, not making consciousness the central element means that non-conscious animals are now part of the moral consideration.