ratherbeinspacewithotherstars
All white people owe poc reparations

This isn’t a debate.
Your guys’ ancestors enslaved us and treated us like property that could be disposed of easily.
Now you continue to mistreat us.
Pay up
You reparations show you are sorry for your ancestors racism and the current racism.
So pay up

anti-sjw-movement

My ancestors didn’t though, in fact most people ancestors didn’t. A tiny percentage of the global populace owned slaves and the majority of that was in Africa where it’s still happening today… do they pay reparations too? By your logic. Yes they do.

sighinastorm

I do think reparations were owed, but the only sound way to do it, that I can
think of, would be for reparations to have taken the form of (at least partially) education and higher vocational training, beginning immediately during Reconstruction.  Even today, I think a program like that could do a lot of good, but with what we’re doing along those lines now, we begin too late.  College is too late.  We need to be assigning scholarships to preschools and grade schools.

“Your guys’ ancestors“, though?  Please. 

anti-sjw-movement

I don’t think reparations is owed at all, for a start the white people today who’s families did indeed own slaves at one point are not at fault for that, they didn’t personally own slaves and they could very well be upstanding members of society who would never do wrong, why should they suffer whether financially or made to sit in a classroom to be told how they’re bad.

Secondly whilst slavery was a disgusting part of human history, it was the social norm and people then were accustom to it, those who weren’t stood against slavery firmly.

Thirdly, many many many white people gave their lives in war to free slaves, no one ever mentions this, acknowledges that these people died to change the world.

All of this and more reasons are why reparations are unjust and unneeded.

sighinastorm

When the slaves were freed and then basically just left to figure out 
what to do for themselves, a self-perpetuating underclass was 
created.  This has left a black mark (no pun intended) on our social 
history, and a brake on our nation’s progress in countless fields.

For the ever-present “race issue“ to not be a thing that exists America, what would that be worth?  For racial division to have never have been such an issue
in justice, imprisonment, crime, poverty, sciences, arts,business, ownership, housing, city settling, finance, what would that be worth to a country?  

Reparations isn’t just some moral absolution for a sin (yours, mine,
or somebody else unrelated’s).  The goal was integration, which,
foolishly, was thought to be obtainable for 40 acres and a mule.

>> why should they suffer whether financially?

A cohesive society benefits all therewithin.

mitigatedchaos

That isn’t what the reparations people actually want, though, and the reparations people will never agree that any sum of money is enough, so the right move for the national government is to never pay any reparations on this matter.

The reintegration of blacks into the broader American culture is Nationalist, would require rejecting Multicultural Diversity as a terminal value, and would mean in some ways result in the dissolution of what has effectively become an ethnic group within the nation.

Can you imagine the enormous left-wing freak-out if they caught on that that was what were doing?  Re-activating the melting pot within the nation on its own groups?  Further transforming “American” into an outright ethnicity?

It would be worth an utterly enormous amount of money, more than it would actually cost, but no one in this country is capable of actually executing it.  The ones that want to do it won’t do it correctly, and the ones that don’t want to do it don’t want to pay for it.

iammyfather

Why is it “ The reintegration of blacks into the broader American culture is Nationalist, would require rejecting Multicultural Diversity “  when it comes to Black people, but integrating everything from Greco-Turkish to Scandinavian, is “Building Multicultural Diversity “.  As for those that say “My ancestors didn’t own slaves”, you are copping out, they still supported a system that enshrined slavery, even if they sat around a table bitching about it.   if your ancestors, like mine came over after slavery was ended, we have still benefited from the way the system was rigged.

mitigatedchaos

You know how the SJ Tumblr Left constantly goes on about White People™ not having a culture? What exactly do you think happened to those European cultures that came over here? How many third generation Italian immigrants do you know that speak Italian?

Melting Pot means creating a new culture from a unifying of other existing ones. In this sense it is a Nationalist enterprise, and because culture is so important, it’s one I support. As it says on my profile here, I am a Nationalist. There are many kinds of Nationalism.  

As for the debt, intergenerational justice does not exist, but it’s still in the interests of the nation and state to solve this matter as it continues to create unnecessary poverty, crime, and breaks in national unity.