nocherrybombs

Why did the early 2000s neocons think we could export liberal democracy to the Middle East? We can’t even export liberal democracy to the United States.

mitigatedchaos

Once you drink too much of certain variants of Liberalism, you start assuming that Liberal Democracy is the natural condition of mankind and once the restraints are removed, it will naturally emerge and take root, along with economic development.

nuclearspaceheater

I mean, it‘s probably doable, but step 1 is to enforce a ban on cousin marriage for 1000 years.

mitigatedchaos

Ah, but you see, Neocons are ideologically prohibited from acknowledging this, because hey, what is a foreign culture but food and clothing waiting to be sold in the United States?

mitigatedchaos

You could do it in far fewer generations, but you’d have to install a 20-year military governorship, still ban cousin marriages out to the third degree, enforce village exogamy, and seize total control of the educational system to wipe out non-trivial parts of the culture and replace them with ideology necessary to support Liberal Democracy.

That’s a pretty big ideological price, and it would require a long troop presence to enforce.

It’s hardly impossible.  Afghanistan was liberalizing at one point.  But if you’re too hooked on the ideology that democracy flowers in all soils, it isn’t possible for you to carry it out.