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shlevy

Things that can simultaneously be true:

  • The rapes in Rotherham were a horrifying crime that could have been prevented
  • A combination of a liberal immigration policy, official adoption of multicultural value systems, and in particular a strong fear of offending Muslims allowed the travesty of Rotherham to continue
  • The value systems of many in the West and in particular in the United States are consistent with and likely to lead to similar horrible lapses like Rotherham again
  • There is generally insufficient awareness of what happened in Rotherham
  • It is bad tactics, extraordinarily obnoxious, and harmful to your ability properly consider all relevant factors* if you choose to bring up Rotherham at every possible relevant point, and many irrelevant points as well.

(this post aimed mostly but not exclusively at @slartibartfastibast)

* Including, FWIW, factors that if ignored can lead to even worse sins than Rotherham itself.

slartibartfastibast

There are a few different matters that I’m frequently accused of bringing up more often than is necessary. I don’t see it that way. People didn’t want to bring this up back when it mattered. I see my one-trackedness as making up lost ground. And there’s a lot of ground to make up.

mitigatedchaos

Well you see, IME liberal multiculturalists tend to think that anyone to the right of them worrying about this sort of thing is a paranoid bigot that is hallucinating things because they are huffing racism, and that the only possible reasons anyone would worry are unjustified xenophobia and anti-brown-people racism.  (Rationalists are kind enough to give a much greater benefit of the doubt than twitter liberals, because they are Rationalists.  Which is good.)

So unfortunately, from time to time, it must be shoved into their faces that no, these concerns are not paranoid bigot hallucinations, because if it happened in one place and was covered up, then there are good odds it’s still happening in other places and being covered up.

I think once you properly incorporate that information into your worldview, what you have doesn’t count as Liberalism anymore.  It could be reasonably close, but it’s a certain… cultural consciousness that was deemed morally reprehensible at the end of the last century, because it was considered dangerous and oppressive.

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