collapsedsquid

Pro-tip that is only somewhat meant snarkily:   If you’re going to use facts and logic to make a argumentative point, just use the facts and logic.  Facts and logic should be able to stand on their own, they don’t need a preface saying you’re going to use facts and logic.

If you say “I’m using facts and logic“ there’s a subtext there that is “unlike you, who are irrational and hysterical.“

There’s a roughly similar point for talk of “bias” that I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader.

mitigatedchaos

“That sounds like something a racist misogynist would say. I bet you talk about forking dongles near womyn, discouraging them from entering the tech industry with your disgusting sexual harassment.”

Total mystery why someone would assume certain factions were hysterical and illogical or not acting in good faith.

And yeah, I know it isn’t all like that, but aside from lopsided media exposure there is a culture war going on, and doxxing/firing/etc have been deemed Justice so a lot of that social capital has been blown, including for leftists more generally.

misanthropymademe

Nobody acts in good faith, we all run on corrupted hardware (but this is no excuse to handwave anytime you fuck up yourself). Fallacy bingo, histrionic accusations that a participant in a debate has no skin in the game and getting huffy about the opponent not being charitable are all manners of trying to goad the opponent into adhering to one’s personal shibboleths and should therefore be ignored. 

mitigatedchaos

In my opinion the best way, morally, to deal with all this diversity fighting is to just ignore it and act on your own morality. Nothing you do will ever be good enough to satisfy the culture warriors, and therefore their demands should be treated as irrelevant. Never agree to repay an infinite debt.

I have no interest in supporting a movement that awards social status for destroying people like me. I’ll help individuals, listen to those I trust, and act on my own morals. But without further information suggesting I should actually trust them, I won’t give the typical SJ thinkpiecer the time of day.

Burning enormous amounts of social capital fighting The Gays™ by the righties was also incredibly stupid.