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Anonymous asked:

Why do male characters in older books seem so -- there is no other way to say it -- gay? They cry, they swim naked with their friends, they hug and talk about how much they love each other, etc...

slatestarscratchpad answered:

I heard the theory that if homosexuality is so beyond the pale as to be socially impossible, then there’s no need to avoid potential signals of homosexuality. Right now men don’t do those things because if they did, everyone would assume they’re gay. If the assumption is nobody’s gay, you can do whatever you want without signaling anything.

I don’t know how true this is, someone like ozymandias271 might know more.

mitigatedchaos

That’s certainly my read on the situation, at least for the West. It will start to relax over time, I think.

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flakmaniak

@mitigatedchaos how about this sci-fi take on gendpol:

“Men are indeed worse than women in various ways, more antisocial, violent etc…

And we have egg-combining technology so we can make a Lesbian Utopia…

HOWEVER, we should still keep the population at approximately 50:50… For the long-term psychological benefits of romantic interaction, given most women are straight.”

mitigatedchaos

You say this, but I already once did a fake nation writeup where they created a single-sex and it turned out terrible - not because they weren’t gay enough, but rather, because they embraced the worst aspects of both masculinity and femininity simultaneously.  (And also, they would have been less bad off if they had just a few teaspoons of Feminism, but that wasn’t going to happen, for Reasons.)

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argumate

“but how will I ever be able to get laid if modern culture frowns upon me getting coworkers drunk and making out with them against their mumbled protestations?? it’s not like my wife is gonna sleep with me lol”

decameter

I have not actually worked out how modern culture proposes people are meant to get laid. 

I mean, people obviously seem to be doing it, but there appears to be no acceptable strategy.

mitigatedchaos

You ignore the recommendations, and prove how manly you are by taking on the risk anyway, getting shut down viciously if you’re too low-status.

The problem is that any permissible channel will be FLOODED due to the mismatch between the demand for sex from women and demand for sex from men, at least at the noisiest age pools.  

Secondly, straight women (generally, on average) do not want to initiate beyond the barest hints, ones that are plausibly deniable if she turns out not to be wanted by that particular guy, leaving her sense of being desirable intact.

What is going to change this is early Transhumanism, as it’s going to alter the sex ratio and potentially result in an increase in bisexuality.

I mean, in practice I used a dating website, which implicitly includes the idea that everyone there for dating is there for dating, and specifies their orientation, so if you don’t have “short/long-term dating” and so on your profile, no fuck for you,

but I don’t necessarily match the patterns of other people, so this may not be actionable advice.

mitigatedchaos

Anyhow, to add on to this, revealing you find someone hot when you’re attempting to extract resources or in a high-stakes …relationship negotiation? …hurts your bargaining position.

At least, you can still get away with pretending that you have to be won over (and showered in all the resources that “winning over”) requires, so long as there are more incoming proposals than outgoing ones, such that the norm is they have to approach you if they find you hot.

As the sex ratio changes, this becomes less and less feasible.

Since I expect a decent-sized chunk of people (3-5%) to “exit” from being male (as we know it) once the technology improves, that throws the bargaining out of whack, as does bisexuality, which means you’re competing with more people for a higher virtual gender ratio… or something.  Naturally, once being a sex is more voluntary, what being that sex means changes as well.

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mitigatedchaos

Anonymous asked:

I still think the better solution to the gender wars is the mass destruction of femininity through hormone disruptors in the water supply. T O M B O Y S A N D C H A D S W I L L R U L E T H E W O R L D

mitigatedchaos answered:

Anon, secretly owner of the largest testosterone factory complex east of Nebraska: 

“We need to be open to radical solutions.”

mitigatedchaos

n.n.:  We can do better than just water.

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brazenautomaton
brazenautomaton

Feminism is Sexism plus Popularity.

Feminism cannot ever possibly be defeated and it will burn down every single thing that makes living tolerable and salt the earth just for the joy of annihilation.

mitigatedchaos

You honestly think they’re going to stop the cybernetics/tissue industry?

Because what it means to be “a woman,” as a category, is on a countdown timer right now.  

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the-grey-tribe

The Dream Daddy team are probably thinking “fuck, this would’ve been so much simpler if we just didn’t include a trans character”

ua86

And that’s what happens when you constantly politicise and over-analyse trans characters, you make a political minefield around the topic that ultimately makes it safer for creators to exclude trans characters than risk implementing them in a way that results in unpredictable controversy and death threats.

Same goes for all of the types of characters who lack “representation”. Stop politicising their existence and more creative types will be comfortable including them.

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decameter
argumate

“but how will I ever be able to get laid if modern culture frowns upon me getting coworkers drunk and making out with them against their mumbled protestations?? it’s not like my wife is gonna sleep with me lol”

decameter

I have not actually worked out how modern culture proposes people are meant to get laid. 

I mean, people obviously seem to be doing it, but there appears to be no acceptable strategy.

mitigatedchaos

You ignore the recommendations, and prove how manly you are by taking on the risk anyway, getting shut down viciously if you’re too low-status.

The problem is that any permissible channel will be FLOODED due to the mismatch between the demand for sex from women and demand for sex from men, at least at the noisiest age pools.  

Secondly, straight women (generally, on average) do not want to initiate beyond the barest hints, ones that are plausibly deniable if she turns out not to be wanted by that particular guy, leaving her sense of being desirable intact.

What is going to change this is early Transhumanism, as it’s going to alter the sex ratio and potentially result in an increase in bisexuality.

I mean, in practice I used a dating website, which implicitly includes the idea that everyone there for dating is there for dating, and specifies their orientation, so if you don’t have “short/long-term dating” and so on your profile, no fuck for you,

but I don’t necessarily match the patterns of other people, so this may not be actionable advice.

Source: argumate gendpol mitigated future still not revealing my gender

Anonymous asked:

Hating men for no reason won't solve your personal problems

I was really expecting to be accused of misogyny, actually.  I’m trying to calculate how many levels of misdirection this ask is on.

Maybe it’s about this post?

They can’t undo Toxic Masculinity, because they don’t understand Masculinity, and they don’t want to.

…because that would mean understanding things about themselves that they don’t want to understand, either.

In which the “they” is actually Mainstream Feminists.

Patterns of male behavior are in part driven by what straight women like/don’t like, or more accurately who they treat as hot/not hot, who they date/don’t date, etc.

Undoing what the Mainstream Feminists call “toxic masculinity” would mean that straight women, on average, would have to change, which would mean they’d have to first understand how cishet female preferences shape the very male power/dominance/status hierarchies they ostensibly oppose.

However, Feminism does poorly at attributing agency and power to women (beyond some of the “rah rah, girl power” stuff), as it’s more politically useful to present as the unpowered underdog.

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Anonymous asked:

I bet you hide your gender because you don't know what it is. Merely being a confused possibly trans person is too normie, I'm guessing there was some kind of mindwipe and on the right stimulus you'll trigger as 2x193ffhg or something, at which point the world is sufficiently Woke to handle such a true form.

Gender, on Tumblr, is a Discourse Attack Surface:

Woman?  “Shut the fuck up, you sexist bitch.”  “Hush, Karen,” and so on.

Man?  Obviously you don’t understand the Lived Experiences of Womyn, you’re an oppressor, you’re coming from a place of privilege, et cetera.

Transwoman?  You can’t be a true woman because you were socialized male, and therefore oppressor, at birth.  (Or various right-wing criticisms.)

Transman?  Why are you trying to become the oppressor gender, you delusional wannabe oppressor?

Nonbinary?  Make up your mind / stop trying to escape your obligations to WOMEN

And so on.

Not providing it makes it more difficult for [discourse rival] to avoid engaging with the content of a post by writing it off as written by [enemy gender].  They still can, but they have to assume the gender to do so, which is a discourse liability.

But on some level, you’re right - it’s probably no accident that all my long-term exes are bisexual women of some kind or another.

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