Anonymous
asked:
Why can't they see that we just want to guarantee our existence as a group?
mutant-aesthetic
answered:

that can’t be permitted according to them because their moral philosophy requires unilateral world domination with no exit for dissenters

mitigatedchaos

Honestly, it’s too bad “create some tiny white ethnostate and have all the white nationalists go there” isn’t an option.  There are enough chunks of land available to make it happen.

Over the short term it would be opposed for all the usual reasons, but of course over the long term there would be a demand to dismantle it as a moral imperative, on the grounds that white nationalists do not deserve to exist (even though the same people would continue to allow other forms of ethnic/racial nationalism).

And of course Whitopia would probably suck, because WNs are not usually the best stock of white people.  But who cares?  It’s an opt-in community, no one has to live there.

I don’t expect much if any external terrorism to occur following its formation, and if small, it couldn’t successfully invade anywhere anyway.

Also it might fall over arguments about who really counts as white, but eh, once they all move there it’s not my problem.

esoteric-hoxhaism

the reason a tiny white ethnostate isn’t an option is that they tried to coordinate and move to leith, a town in north dakota with a population of twelve, and this became a huge international story and got shut down.

dissent exists to legitimize authority’s rule, and don’t you forget it. the system needs white nationalists, and needs them to stay around, so it can justify its perpetual expansion of its own power. leith wasn’t allowed because leith wasn’t useful to the system. charlottesville was allowed because it was. 

mitigatedchaos

Well, we had a war over secession already, and ideological grounds are sufficient by themselves to create that response without planning by the ruling political class.

The ideology of human rights, as backed by Progressivism or Liberalism, is universalist.  It either applies everywhere, or it applies nowhere.  The idea of different rules for different groups, living in different geographic areas, is Nationalist and in opposition to this.  To accept the existence of a tiny WN city-state is to implicitly accept that the universalism of Progressivism or Liberalism, which they use as their basis, is untrue.

Even if it’s just a means to contain the KKK so they shut up and quit causing problems for everyone else.