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collapsedsquid

Trying to put a few more of my scattered thoughts on this “hardcore civic nationalism“ thing just so I can synthesize what I’ve seen.

I think this group has a complicated relationship with immigration.  There is this abstract sense with which they are pro-immigration because part of being a good nation is having people, but it depends on those national cultural institutions being strong.  They are in favor of cultural institutions being strong in part so they can allow immigration, there’s this very assimilationist thought here.  They have some opinions on what that national cultural thought should be, but it’s more critical that the thought exists than the precise details of that thought. You can synthesize the idea of their nationalism there, it’s sort of “our nation is so great that other people want to join it”

I sort of mentioned the rightward edge because I needed to separate them from ethnic nationalists, but there is a leftward social democratic leaning edge too.  The public works aspect provides opportunities to help people build a society while making sure nobody goes hungry, they’d take unemployment seriously, and anti-racist measures are both good in themselves and perfectly reasonable as methods of building national cohesion. Conceptually, you can sort of view this national culture thing as reducing the need for hierarchy, instead of having society conceptualized by you serving your boss, priest, or husband, everyone serves the national idea and we are all nominally equal.  So this can be thought of and constructed as egalitarian.

mitigatedchaos

That is all pretty reasonable, though alternatively under immigration, a nationalism which believes in national cultures and accompanying law bundles can view immigration as matching people according to desired legal/cultural configuration. Therefore, for it to make sense, some level of immigration/emigration should exist, though not necessarily for major net growth.

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