> thinks “greater good” is a BS term
> doesn’t think “justice” is a BS term
Look, I get that “greater good” has been used to justify atrocities… but what exactly do you think is used to justify inter-generational ethnic revenge killings, the kind that spiral out of control and start ethnic civil wars?
“Justice.”
You’re so eager to punch or kill, even though “any harm” could mean as little as graffiti.
Liberals may not understand how Liberalism works, but it does have mechanisms through which it does work. You have to think about the mechanics of the incentives.
When you let people marry their cousins, and those people are from extremely patriarchal families from extremely patriarchal cultures, those families can use the cousin marriage as means through which to control and isolate women and reinforce patriarchal cultural transmission, even when a cousin marriage between two others would not impose this effect.
There are mechanics to the incentives. For the liberalism to work, people can’t be so deeply controlled by their families. They have to open to atomization and cultural transmission.
When you want to kill someone regardless of the actual level of threat they pose or have posed, it undermines the incentives to quit.
For the Liberalism to work, “exit” has to be a viable strategy.
You might say “but it undermines the incentives to join!”, but the “lol punchanazi” crowd don’t understand the incentives to join and are ideologically prohibited from understanding or addressing them, so that doesn’t float.
Do you care about healing society? Or, like the man who launched van attacks on Muslims in the UK in response to multiple van attacks by Muslims in the same, even though they weren’t the same individuals, are you out for revenge?
And don’t give me “NAZIS ARE ON THE VERGE OF TAKING OVER AMERICAN SOCIETY!” thing. They aren’t, and those who think they are, are high on their own propaganda supply. Charlottesville required busing them from across the whole country.
Anyhow, if people thought that the “lol punchanazi” crowd would stop at actual, literal Nazis, they probably would just let it go, silently. But almost everyone knows they won’t.
So now we all have to be concerned about the safety of Nazis, because the “lol punachanazis” are terrible at things like “check that the man you’re punching is actually a Nazi first.” (”But why would a non-Nazi be afraid of being mistaken for a Nazi?” - because wearing a hat that said “Make Bitcoin Great Again” was enough to get maced.) Charlottesville may have resulted in a kill for them, but there was a masked man hitting people with a bike lock in Berkeley. It’s only through chance that “Antifa” (in the public perception) didn’t get “first blood.”
As such, each incident is going to drive justification for right-wing behavior.
“But what about the bad things right-wingers do?” - why the fuck do you think they’ve been losing the culture war (not fiscal policy) so badly? Would the nation be less right-wing if the Vietnam War hadn’t eroded confidence in national wars? There’s a sharp divide in Millennial support for Democrats based on age, which just so happens to coincide with the Bush Administration. They may have lost an entire generation over that dumbass Iraq war. Yes, the Iraqis got it worse, but bad right-wing actions have been part of the reason for society’s shift leftward, socially, for centuries, now.
