Oceans Yet to Burn — silver-and-ivory: the sj hiding in my brain: uh...

silver-and-ivory

the sj hiding in my brain: uh why are you reading a book where the two main characters are boys, written by a man, i really think that you’re reinforcing harmful and incredibly oppressive structures-

me: could you just, fuck off, and let me read my adventure novel about archery and fantasy rangers in peace, without commentary, for ONCE

mitigatedchaos

you: haunted by the ghosts of your past who sing in chorus in your mind ever onward, seeking to bind you in chains of your own making

me: busy writing something arguably even more problematic than archers, fantasy rangers, or even gay archery-focused fantasy rangers

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thathopeyetlives

ranma-official

@mitigatedchaos

There’s no logical proof that they can declaw all religions equally, or that the distribution of violence is the same at the tails of all otherwise-declawed religions, though.

Religions are declawed in a secular society naturally as long as no deliberate action (that ensues resistance) is taken. Christianity is very heavily fragmented and society in general has done a really good job declawing it. We are at a “you can’t even prove if God exists or not” level right now. That’s an absurd step down from the absolute majority of humanity’s history

slartibartfastibast

What if your religion expressly forbids secular government/society?

ranma-official

Gets declawed and settles down. Most religions are against any government ever overriding religious laws.

slartibartfastibast

How do you prevent reversion to non-secular society when you constantly import (and don’t police) extremely conservative people that have been cousin-marrying since classical antiquity? Do you know about clannishness vs. W.E.I.R.D.ness?

isaacsapphire

The allure of sexy secular people, particularly young women, is an extremely well established method of getting the second generation immigrants to defect from their culture.

thathopeyetlives

Well, the Gods of the Copybook Headings with monkhood and marriage return, I guess.

I doubt that’s a long term solution. Eventually the sex and apostasy gets boring and then memory and hopes of marriage call one back, maybe to a better place than one was in at first. It happened to me.

mitigatedchaos

#plz no declaw

You’re Christian. Your religion’s central idea of martyrdom, as popularly understood, and brutally oversimplified, involves the government nailing some guy to a stick.

And in this sense, “declawed” refers primarily to religiously-motivated violence, though I suppose it also refers to virality, which is also a (longer-term) risk factor.

So as you might gather, it isn’t Christianity with its “render unto Caesar” and liberal democratic governments that I’m worried about. Nor Buddhism, nor Hinduism…

Anyhow, I think some of the rampant sex culture will decline on its own even without religion, just from people noticing what they previously weren’t socially allowed to notice - most people do seem to emotionally bond from sex, so for most people it really isn’t just some fun casual activity to do with randoms, and also long-term accomplishment tends to build a higher baseline level of happiness than momentary hedonism.

Source: ranma-official religion uncharitable cw

brazenautomaton

earthboundricochet

Everytime an anti-sj/”skeptical”/whatever says that using the right pronouns for trans people is a matter of courtesy I want to scream in the void

nvidiatitanx nvidiatitanx

What’s wrong with saying it’s about respect/courtesy?

brazenautomaton

if it is about respect, then you misgender people you don’t respect (as we see SJ do to any outside The In Clique) and then accurate pronouns are something you must earn by adherence to their ideology

mitigatedchaos

It’s about winning the local battle (pronouns), since it’s easier than winning the war (trans is legit), and maybe if the local battle is won people will go easier.

But it does have that side effect.

Source: earthboundricochet gender politics

silver-and-ivory

are you a “makes fun of otherkin” anti-sj or are you a “writes thousand word posts about intersectionality and the evils of normativity” anti-sj

mitigatedchaos

I’m “thinks otherkin are ridiculous since that’s not a realistic variation on human brain designs, but supports their right to morphological freedom in the transhuman future”.

identity politics gender politics

ranma-official

Anonymous asked:

do you ever have that dream where the sj and anti-sj trains crash into each other and all of them die in a giant fireball because I have that dream every night

ranma-official answered:

This has already happened on tungler dot hell years ago, and we, mad and in deep denial, scavenge for questionably dressed anime girls on this desolated wasteland

luminousalicorn

daniel-r-h asked:

Are alarm clocks particularly dangerous to baby birds?

luminousalicorn answered:

Alarm clocks are VERY LOUD AND THREATENING but I will FIGHT THEM if they come near my nest!

luminous alicorn au sj series cowbird

ranma-official

internalscreeching internalscreeching

Challenge: find a blog that criticizes tumblr culture, but doesn’t make fun of completely innocuous kin stuff.

internalscreeching internalscreeching

#or nb people #or mogai labels #or legitimate sj concepts

funereal-disease

OH HEY this is right in my wheelhouse! I recommend:

And myself, if you don’t mind sifting through the dross of complete shitposts and Maleficent fanart for the occasional gold of a real post.

fierceawakening

omg thank <3

cromulentenough

what really annoys me is when people to about the subreddit tumblrinaction and are like ‘i liked it when it was just making fun of otherkin,now it’s all about SJWs’

really? the ONLY bit you were ok with was making fun of the people pretty much trying to do their own thing and even if misguided weren’t harming anyone?

ranma-official

When it was a baby subreddit (i remember those times) it was way less mean-spirited and we were even fans of some otherkin bloggers (but also, I’m going to note that a lot of otherkin bloggers were super vile for no reason)

mitigatedchaos

What’s the SJ value if I think Otherkin is ridiculous and undermining transgender people, but also support their morphological freedom in the awe-inspiring/terrifying Transhuman future?

Source: russian-hackers-official

the-grey-tribe

onecornerface

I know some super-edgy far-leftists who are kind of assholes online but are the sweetest people in person. In person they’re willing to show more compassion, discuss more nuanced details, and express more uncertainty–while online, they easily get pulled into macho woker-than-thou posturing. I imagine a lot of the people responsible for Bad SJ Discourse are kind of like that.

A lot of internet people who are jerks and upset me are probably people I’d like if I talked with them in person. This does NOT justify this sort of online behavior. But thinking about it this way helps me find it less upsetting.

Sometimes the person is an asshole whose real self comes out only online. But some people are also really nice, and their real self gets masked online. And of course, in some ways, the in-person self and the online self are both the real self (as well as a masked self)–and it is an entity whose quality is very mixed.

the-grey-tribe

If being mean comes naturally that’s one thing. If you have to put effort into being mean, whyyyy?

mitigatedchaos

eXCUSE ME but being mean to the outgroup is completely morally justified, you aren’t some secret outgroup member …R U?

Source: onecornerface shtpost

the-grey-tribe

raggedjackscarlet

So I’ve been seeing this post go around our little sphere here, and….

look, everything in that post is correct, but the change is never going to happen.

the “Dork = Reactionary” narrative is a superweapon that SJ is never going to willingly surrender. it’s too goddamn useful.

not only does it allow them to righteously bash a helpless target (“THESE BARELY-FUNCTIONAL ASPIES ARE ALL SECRETLY NAZIS!!!”), but also allows them to use the threat of being tarred as a NEET to keep each other toeing the line.

It’s never going away.

Source: raggedjackscarlet identity politics

the-grey-tribe

rocketverliden

The PewDiePie discourse seems to help illuminate two schools of thought regarding the inculcation of extremism and such.

One school of thought, favored by SJ and left-wing people, is that extremism is generative: if left unchecked, it grows.

The other school of thought, favored by less-than-left people, is that extremism is reactive: it is always growing in opposition to perceived overreach/overreaction.

@theaudientvoid @brazenautomaton @thathopeyetlives @argumate Thoughts?