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argumate: “ utilitymonstermash: “ https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/750546999787810816 ” Eliezer Yudkowsky turned into dril so gradually that nobody even noticed. ”
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Eliezer Yudkowsky turned into dril so gradually that nobody even noticed.

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wirehead-wannabe

There’s a well-documented attitude where humans will twist themselves into mental knots trying to come up with reasons why death or work are actually good. The thing is, even the anti-deathists (looking at you, Big Yud) will turn around and do the exact same thing about suffering, telling themselves that OF COURSE humans need suffering to be happy (just like *~death gives meaning to life~*, right?).

We COULD be working on destroying the hedonic treadmill, or making a version of MDMA without tolerance or negative side effects, or figuring out how to make wireheading work without interfering with our ability to earn a living, but instead we’ve decided to make all of that illegal.

I still haven’t seen Inside Out yet, but I get the sense that I would hate it, since really Sadness needs to be taken out behind the toolshed and put out of her misery, and out of the misery of her host.

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Do you think pain is bad?

slartibartfastibast

Not always, no. Define pain.

Also: http://slartibartfastibast.tumblr.com/post/113187242214/the-study-explained-such-psychological-phenomena

ranma-official

The sensation of physical pain. I asked wirehead actually but that was a rhetorical question so I will answer.

Pain is the body signalling “something is wrong!”. It’s of course very unpleasant, and thus technically “bad”. On top of that, the human body doesn’t deal with it all that well: it keeps telling us something is wrong when we are already aware, misreports the damage, etc.

There are people who don’t feel pain. They don’t live long.

Even every human having the ability to flip the switch to say “hey, I’m aware something is wrong, got it, bye” might have catastrophic consequences when the social expectation for manual laborers becomes “ignore the pain forever”.

Sadness is most likely exactly like that, and intentionally experiencing sadness is much more of a universal human experience.

slartibartfastibast

Yep.

everything-narrative

I think abolishing suffering kind of includes “abolish need for manual labor” as a sub-point… Just a slight hunch.

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mitigatedchaos

Okay, but major depression and chronic pain are probably both pretty worthless, as compared to, say, the feelings of loneliness and dejectedness one might have in an exotic relationship type one has entered for ideological reasons, or the fatigue one gets to signal it’s time to stop exercising.

Also we should unbundle chest pain so it’s easier to diagnose heart attack vs just other issues.  (Or slap a monitor on it.  You get the idea.)

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theonion: “SAN FRANCISCO—In an effort to reduce the number of unprovoked hostile communications on the social media platform, Twitter announced Monday that it had added a red X-mark feature verifying users who are in fact perfectly okay to harass....
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SAN FRANCISCO—In an effort to reduce the number of unprovoked hostile communications on the social media platform, Twitter announced Monday that it had added a red X-mark feature verifying users who are in fact perfectly okay to harass. “This new verification system offers users a simple, efficient way to determine which accounts belong to total pieces of shit whom you should have no qualms about tormenting to your heart’s desire,” said spokesperson Elizabeth James, adding that the small red symbol signifies that Twitter has officially confirmed the identity of a loathsome person who deserves the worst abuse imaginable and who will deliberately have their Mute, Block, and Report options disabled. “When a user sees this symbol, they know they’re dealing with a real asshole who has richly earned whatever mistreatment they receive, including profanity, body-shaming, leaking of personal information, and relentless goading to commit suicide. It’s really just a helpful way of saying to our users, ‘This fuck has it coming, so do your worst with a clear conscience and without fear of having your account suspended.’” At press time, Twitter reassuredly clarified that the red X was just a suggestion and that all users could still be bullied with as little recourse as they are now.

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mitigatedchaos

The less smug you are, (and the less unethical you are), the less it stings when your most unethical behavior comes to light.

It’s good standard practice to avoid using “wit” (and snark) on people because they are low-status (”gross,” “smelly,” “ugly,” “fat harpy” and so on).  First of all, it’s just not a good mental hygiene habit.  Second of all, it cannot then come back to haunt you.

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