Wait, wise old Chinese dude? Do you mean Beat Takeshi as Section Chief Aramaki? He’s a Japanese comedian and actor speaking Japanese.
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(Ghost in the Shell: ARISE, 2015)
“Why do we have to meet in person? You telling me my cyberlobby is bugged?”
It just occurred to me that, assuming the cyberlobby is hosted locally, this someone their cyberlobby is bugged occupies a strange space in between telling they have the flu, telling them they have a bad apartment messed up by previous guests/habits, and telling them they have an STD.
Which makes it insulting, which is low-key hilarious.
You know, it’s not like science has fucking stopped entirely. So why the hell do none of these sci-fi shows seems to have any vision? It’s like ideas for sci-fi stopped being created in the 80s and they can’t use anything that wasn’t written about before 1990.
Because Eclipse Phase is too unrelatable to general audiences.
We even got a live action Ghost in the Shell movie, and it really missed tons of opportunities in trying to dumb itself down for general audiences. Perhaps the worst part of it is that Standalone Complex was really quite prescient about the power of memeforce!
Though really, I also think that many Hollywood writers are mostly not of the sci-fi visionary caliber to go from “what if some dude became part robot?” to “what if every dude became part robot?”
The latter includes all sorts of cascading changes throughout society, seen in shows like Standalone Complex, with ordinary people becoming vulnerable to cyberbrain crime and reserving organs to be grown in pigs. Psycho-Pass is really the spiritual successor here in that it will probably seem really prescient about the use of big data to analyze people for criminality in about 10-20 years, the way Standalone Complex seems prescient about crimes-as-memes.
But even then, those are what, two shows in a foreign country, where most of the shows are either not of that type, or not of that caliber.
How would American audiences have responded if Standalone Complex were a live-action TV show?
I wonder how many Rationalists consider some version of her their idol.
Huh,
You know, I just realized, the Ghost in the Shell: ARISE movie would have been better
as a book.
I feel like probably the language they were speaking was Japanese, since why would you /not/ have them speaking Japanese?
I am clueless and do not speak Japanese.
From what I heard, people were speaking Japanese, but I couldn’t clearly hear the background people in the various scenes. However, I think the movie takes place in something like a Japanese Hong Kong or Japanese Singapore, probably following a world war which shuffled the national boundaries throughout Asia.
Note: “Ghost in the Shell 2017 takes place in Japanese Hong Kong” is speculation on my part. However, some of it was filmed in actual Hong Kong, so it’s not entirely off-base.
It just sounds like the most credible explanation for why “Japan” is suddenly so multiracial, multicultural, and English-speaking that an entire team from its internal security services consists primarily of non-Japanese people who speak English.
I feel like probably the language they were speaking was Japanese, since why would you /not/ have them speaking Japanese?
I am clueless and do not speak Japanese.
From what I heard, people were speaking Japanese, but I couldn’t clearly hear the background people in the various scenes. However, I think the movie takes place in something like a Japanese Hong Kong or Japanese Singapore, probably following a world war which shuffled the national boundaries throughout Asia.
“[Ghost in the Shell] is a perfect overlapping of form and function. They speak directly to the audience and say “the patriarchal corporation made Motoko white because they consider it more marketable.”
The irony of the film is that people [online] have bought entirely into the corporate logic and are now arguing that ‘authentic’ Japanese identity is superior because it’s even more marketable - literally that the movie would have made more money with an authentic Japanese on the posters.
In this view, Cutter was bad not because he was using billions of tax dollars to vicisect people for profit, but because he failed to make enough profit for his shareholders. He was not exploitative enough - he did not ‘Think Different". Cutter’s sneering racism is unfashionable, and so his Caucasian deathbots were left in the dust by the burgeoning Japanese-Looking Fucktoy industry.”
An interesting response, though I believe the arguers actually wanted it for authenticity/racial representation reasons and only made the argument about money because they thought “be more moral (according to our morality)” wouldn’t be convincing.
Okay, let me make a real post out of this for Prof. Sto– I mean @afloweroutofstone.
I think part of the public liking of anime and posting of anime tiddies, despite being considered low-class activities on the internet, reflects a coming meltdown in masculinity.
There’s a common perception that masculinity is essentially impervious to attack, which is driven by focusing almost entirely on men at the top and ignoring men at the bottom or treating them as non-men. (Also by ignoring what masculinity of the kind people want to attack even is.)
The real weaknesses of masculinity, however, are at the margins, not from Trudeau wearing pink. The men who are already having trouble performing masculinity and being judged wanting just… giving up on performing masculinity in terms of its integration with society.
For now, the broader status hierarchy based on performing masculinity in order to appeal to a combination of other men and neurotypical, heterosexual women, is holding.
But it’s going to erode as new, competing status hierarchies form and expand among those who have no reason to abide by their low status in the old ones. We’re seeing a war and division over them in “geek” culture, currently, but new culture hierarchy conflicts are going to spread as the gender system destabilizes.
This is one of those rebellions that begins with the peasants out in the provinces and makes its way into the city.
It’s visible in all sorts of low-status men that many of your readers would hate. But if it were already accepted, it wouldn’t be a true revolution, and this is what not being accepted looks like, in part, WRT the male gender role.
It is hard to pick what my favorite piece of Awful Radfem Discourse is, but I think this might just win the prize.
Okay, but to answer the question. It’s more of a correlation thing.
Trans girls are often anime girls, for example, but not all anime girls are trans girls.
I’ve long had a theory that some groups that are drawn to anime are drawn to it because it telegraphs emotions in a very blatant manner.
For people around gender issues, it also often leaves facial features more vague and less gendered.


