Anonymous asked:
I am so glad I don’t own any property in Las Vegas.
Anonymous asked:
I am so glad I don’t own any property in Las Vegas.
connard-cynique asked:
Alright, again setting aside that this is trolly bullshit,
All states use the implicit threat of violence.
All states. Also all Anarchists, so as to prevent the formation of new states.
That includes liberal states! It includes Democracies!
Anyhow.
If you decide to actually massacre millions in the name of “white protection,” the Liberals get to kill you.
What you’ve just said implies a great confusion about the availability and power of political will.
Extermination takes more political power than separatism. If you have enough power to attempt extermination, then you have enough power to do separatism without it getting watered down. If you have half the power required to enact extermination, you have enough power to do separatism without it getting watered down.
And if the idea that some people might change their minds and later invite others back in applies to separatism, then it also applies to extermination, assuming you don’t literally control all habitable areas of the world in order to attempt extermination completely.
It’s also about political power required per unit area, per political operative, number of political operatives, et cetera.
Making a white city-state requires the coordinated action of the population of a city-state. So let’s call it somewhere between 1-7 million. They all have to move into, and control, only a city-state’s worth of geographic area. Most of them don’t have to be Party Militia members, so your real hardcore force would only need 50,000-500,000. to attempt this.
The entire process can be legitimized through the use of democratic means and ideology of national self-determination. The desired area can attempt to secede through a vote, severely undermining the ability of democratic nations to respond.
On the other hand, a plot for extermination requires seizing control of the whole country, and maintaining that control. For a country like Britain, with a population of 65 million, it’s going to need support from at least, let’s say, 25% of the population. So around 15 million. And that probably isn’t anywhere near enough unless you also have near-total control of the army.
One of these might actually be possible in the 21st century without the context of an invasion by a foreign power, the global collapse of oil reserves, the government of the United States of America declaring bankruptcy, and so on. I’ll give you a hint - it’s not the one involving the mass murder of people who have, individually, not committed any crimes worse than a parking infraction.
And that’s disregarding the effect that CRISPR and similar technologies are going to have on race.
But of course, this assumes White Nationalists who are not too delusional and who are capable of pulling off something reasonably well-organized with a realistic and achievable goal. The kind of people that could somehow make White Singapore.
Which don’t really exist in numbers right now.
I’m hoping that Leftists will be restrained enough to prevent them from coming into existence.
Besides, you’re forgetting a key part of why the Left has been able to advance, socially. A price paid in blood is a price paid in your nation’s will to survive.
connard-cynique asked:
So again, taking this as serious for a moment…
Ethnic separatism isn’t a gentle “no thanks,” it’s the formation of a new, sovereign nation-state based on principles of ethnonationalism and ethnic exclusion.
Exclusion backed by the iron hand of a state, and its implicit threat of violence.
But this isn’t extermination, and it doesn’t require the will for extermination - which isn’t going to exist at the national level barring some pretty shocking unforeseen circumstances.
So assuming you actually believed this, it would be foolish to pick extermination over separatism.
connard-cynique asked:
I understand this ask is satirical, with the goal of mimicking hard-right ideology. Quite frankly, I’m not sure what the point even is, since for Libfas, it was probably an attempt to bait him into saying something that would “reveal” his “inner Nazi” or something along those lines.
But not everyone with concerns about immigration truly has a secret inner Nazi with an opinion like your satirical one. Leftists are just not that great at understanding right-wing motivations, statistically, from what I’ve read.
But let’s assume we take it seriously for one moment. Just, you know, hypothetically.
Is there any way in which extermination is preferable to separatism?
Because not only does extermination require political will, it requires somewhere between one to three orders of magnitude more political will than separatism, control over the state apparatus, and conditions that, in the West, would only exist in a time of lawless violence and disorder on levels of Weimar Germany (which we aren’t at - note the insufficient challenge to the state’s military power).
And then, once extermination is attempted, because for such a nation to exist (at our technology level) for whites, it must exist in areas that are currently majority white, the full force of the political will of the liberal countries will crash against it, likely resulting in a much larger and better-armed invasion.
Separatism, however, won’t necessarily generate an invasion, and may have trouble rousing even a sufficiently crushing response in economic sanctions.
It would muster almost no response in sanctions if your ethnic separatist population was any color other than white. However, supposing you really did believe this, that becomes a method to corrode your opposition’s political will - just repeatedly pointing out their hypocrisy on this matter.
So even if one were an extremely racist hardcore reactionary, it just doesn’t make much sense to choose extermination instead.
That doesn’t exclude people from holding such ideas, or even acting on them - after all, destroying the Twin Towers was never going to make America quit meddling in the Middle East.
Anonymous asked:
Sssh, I’m trying to get through to a lolpunchanazi, on something more important, and that means setting some things aside for later. One thing at a time.
Anonymous asked:
Voting machines with software not licensed by Diebold.
Anonymous asked:
The political climate necessary to even establish such a thing suggests sufficient power mass to deal with most of the marginal sources that would turn people towards wanting a European ethnostate to begin with.
I don’t think what most of the people becoming identitarians right now really want is racial purity. I just think that they think racial purity is the only way to get what they want.
Anonymous asked:
Are you kidding? The Leftists would be absolutely furious if I got away with this, seeing as it denies the universalism of their ideals. They’d be furious even if it failed. They’d still be furious if I also gave one to the Black Nationalists. (They wouldn’t be furious if I gave one to Black Nationalists but not White Nationalists, but, eh.)
Anyhow, as for “nonwhite immigrants embracing the Rights of Englishmen” - that’s more a matter of social equilibrium forces and cultural replication, not genetics, IMO. (Also banning cousin marriage WRT its social effects, but cousin marriage rates are fairly low in the US.)
We need to slow immigration to get housing costs under control anyway.
And besides, if you get a little city-state of your own, then surely you can prove that the “White Way is the Right Way™” and that really it is about genetics and not culture. Right?
I think it’ll fail, but I’m willing to make that bet.
Anonymous asked:
Are you just going to overlook the part here where most of the white nationalists really hate the Jews? And the part where the Jews that wanted an Israel were not among the least competent of all Jews?
Anyhow, if it’s small and powerless enough, I don’t really care if there’s some racially-exclusionary city of 50,000 - 100,000. They get to have their little white ethnostate, the rest of us get to have them no longer included in our politics.
Maybe they’re right, and it’ll be full of great city-state statistics like Hong Kong or Singapore, only you know, ethnonationalist. Probably not, though. We’d have to intervene if they tried to bring back slavery or something.
As you may know, street fights with these people are being used as a justification from the Left to attack our rights, and the behavior of a bunch of fight-happy Communists smashing junk is being used for the same by the Right.
Anonymous asked:
I will never submit to Hyperpatriarch One, or his mind control. I’ll flip my banshee switch before I allow that to happen, and my body will keep fighting until it’s rendered completely inoperable.