I will admit, when I realized that each generation must raise the next, and I mean really realized it, not just in passing, I became more right-wing.
@silver-and-ivory why did you
If some subset of society just does whatever they want, as long as it’s not too big, then it doesn’t risk imploding society.
However, for society to continue and be good to live in,
- Each generation must have and raise children
- These children must be raised to be of at least average virtue
Thus, the family is, in fact, one of the primary core units of society, and of great importance. How people live, in the aggregate, matters a lot. The education and raising of children matter a lot. There is a maximum number ratio of wine-drenched spinsters and perpetual bachelors, beyond which, long-term, any nation will crumble.
How people live determines the wealth of society, the general pleasantness of society, and so on.
I feel like this is wrong but I have no idea why I feel like that, so have a reblog.
False equivalence. The right doesn’t raise their children to be more virtuous than the left. They have different vices and virtues.
Sure, in some ways. Some patterns work even when done by people who don’t believe in having others follow them.
Also, there is more than one way to be right-wing.
What’s right and left can vary, too. Polygmy is bad for children. However, while in the middle east, polygamy would be Trad, in the United States, it would be the Idpol Left that would legalize it, in the name of “religious tolerance” and a bunch of other things.
And thus, within the context of America, my opposition to it is “right-wing”.
Without getting into a long argument about which left wing virtues are actually virtues, could we agree that the right wing virtues are often those which contribute most directly to intergenerational transmission?
(“Right wing” covers a lot of different groups so to be clear I’m taking about social traditionalists mostly.)
It’s the right, not the left, which treats childbearing itself as a virtue. The right has economic productivity as a virtue. These are two things we need in order to keep having the kind of society we currently have, and ideologies which argue against them are arguing for their own extinction.
Memetic virulence is not moral correctness
“It’s the right, not the left, which treats [the divine right of kings] as a virtue. The right has [mercantilism] as a virtue. These are two things we need to keep having the kind of society we currently have, and ideologies which argue against them are arguing for their own extinction.”
~ conservatives in 1650, probably
Why the hell is humanity so important compared to other species, anyway? I’m pretty sure that dolphins could do a better job than we did with civilization once they develop writing and speech and whatnot.
I honestly don’t care if humanity dies out at this point. At the current time we are responsible for the next generation, but basically we have a 99% chance of fucking the next generation up because of our own failings and the failings of the generations who have come before us. People basically have kids for selfish reasons or because they have basically given up on their own lives and that’s about it.
Signed, a perpetual bachelor whose parents really, really shouldn’t have had kids
Dolphins aren’t going to do anything of the sort. The evolutionary gap is too large, and if they managed to cross it (including migrating back to land), they wouldn’t be dolphins anymore.
Chimps are the better candidate to actually happen, and chimps are fkin’ brutal.
I’m not saying that you, in particular, need to have kids, though.