Oceans Yet to Burn

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[ithelpstodream]

women are never free from misogyny and male entitlement, not even after death

[genderfight]

I like this because it rests at an unlikely crossroads of “Poe’s Law Incel Weirdness” and “Things I Rather Suspect That You Could Get A Drunk Utilitarian To Agree To.”

[isaacsapphire]

1. I don’t even know if this is a false flag or not. I hope so, but I don’t think it’s certain. Anyway, somebody thinks that necrophilia for non necrophiliacs is better than never having a live woman consent to sex with them.

2. This seems to be a result of the denormalization of hiring sex workers. Like, I’m pretty sure that “incels” aren’t a problem in cultures that have normalized sex work.

3. Seriously, government funded necrophilia is supposed to be a better solution than decriminalization of sex work????

[mitigatedchaos]

OP’s line seems to imply a worldview in which men normally think like this, but actually incels are their own special brand of fucked up.

Never internalize the idea that your value is derived solely from sexual “success.”  It will corrupt your mind.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[diarrheaworldstarhiphop]

j ESUS CHRISTT

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Anonymous asked:

Why do the autistic rationalists get an exception from "poly is bad"?

mitigatedchaos answered:

When normies practice polygamy, what actually happens is polygyny.  It is from polygyny that many of the worst consequences of polygamy arise.  The domestic violence, the crowds of unwanted young men with no future and inadequate ties to society, and so on are what happens when polygamy is applied to ordinary gender stuff.  

Autistic rationalists do not necessarily conform to the same gender conditions, being a bunch of (lovable!) weird nerds.  (I am also a weird nerd, as evidenced by this very blog.)

It is important to understand thresholds of social behavior, which means that weird nerds practicing something does not have the same impact on society as everyone practicing something.

Likewise, exclusively gay men practicing polygamy would not create a mass gender imbalance in the dating ‘market’ that incentivizes bad behavior (including child marriages as desperate straight men try to secure access to women), because they are all gay, so they would not have dated women in the first place.

However, it isn’t politically possible to have “polygamy, but only for LGBTs and weird nerds”, so multiple marriage must remain banned at least until people have the ability to change their sex/sexual orientation cheaply and with few side effects.  

Also, the situation where one man has eleven children by eight different women has enormous costs to society and must be discouraged.

Outright stopping poly people from engaging in non-marriage relationships, however, would be much more harmful than beneficial.

In the Transhuman Space Future, some of these conditions will no longer apply, and polygamy is much less of an issue.

[mitigatedchaos]

@kissingerandpals

I don’t think any of those are the problem with polygamy. The problem with polygamy is that it hurts people emotionally who brainwash themselves into going along with it.

My personal belief is that polyamory and high levels of promiscuity do actually work - for a small, select subset of people, who many people try to convince themselves they are a part of.   

I think that the typical human being is more healthy not attempting to be poly, and not being highly promiscuous, and so I recommend not doing either, much like I would recommend limiting just how much porn one watches or how much alcohol one drinks, without banning either porn or alcohol.

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Anonymous asked:

Why do the autistic rationalists get an exception from "poly is bad"?

When normies practice polygamy, what actually happens is polygyny.  It is from polygyny that many of the worst consequences of polygamy arise.  The domestic violence, the crowds of unwanted young men with no future and inadequate ties to society, and so on are what happens when polygamy is applied to ordinary gender stuff.  

Autistic rationalists do not necessarily conform to the same gender conditions, being a bunch of (lovable!) weird nerds.  (I am also a weird nerd, as evidenced by this very blog.)

It is important to understand thresholds of social behavior, which means that weird nerds practicing something does not have the same impact on society as everyone practicing something.

Likewise, exclusively gay men practicing polygamy would not create a mass gender imbalance in the dating ‘market’ that incentivizes bad behavior (including child marriages as desperate straight men try to secure access to women), because they are all gay, so they would not have dated women in the first place.

However, it isn’t politically possible to have “polygamy, but only for LGBTs and weird nerds”, so multiple marriage must remain banned at least until people have the ability to change their sex/sexual orientation cheaply and with few side effects.  

Also, the situation where one man has eleven children by eight different women has enormous costs to society and must be discouraged.

Outright stopping poly people from engaging in non-marriage relationships, however, would be much more harmful than beneficial.

In the Transhuman Space Future, some of these conditions will no longer apply, and polygamy is much less of an issue.