Oceans Yet to Burn

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[mitigatedchaos]

@slartibartfastibast quoting others

“That’s when a friend of mine stumbled over a footnote in an esoteric army report about simulator sickness in virtual environments. Sure enough, military researchers had noticed that women seemed to get sick at higher rates in simulators than men. While they seemed to be able to eventually adjust to the simulator, they would then get sick again when switching back into reality.”

In the future, all women are autistics on testosterone, and the global GDP per capita exceeds $120,000.  Conventional gender as we know it has dissolved and been replaced by a neurotype inventory dynamically read from the global hypergrid.

[slartibartfastibast]

That first bit would affect childbearing.

Does that stat hide a planet full of impoverished depth grovelers mining for nuggets of neoplasm, offset by a small cabal of multi-trillionaires?

Edit: shit, you ninja-edited in another sentence. I do that a lot. Is this hypergrid capable of sustainably manifesting unenumerably vast continuums of juvenile rage and fear?

[mitigatedchaos]

An astute observation!

Childbearing has been replaced with artificial wombs in order to fine-tune the characteristics of neural development and orientation the future-market (not the same as the “future market”) demands.  And yes, the cost of these systems and state-sponsored child raising is reflected in the GDP, and it is quite extensive, though hardly limited to multi-trillionaires.

Those territories with no state-sponsored child raising glitter spectacularly, but of course they are always on the brink of collapse.  You know how it is.

As for the hypergrid, it depends on just how deeply you want to entertain the emotions of others in your hardware.  I recommend not diving /r90k/.  Oneness with the Universe is a little more difficult there.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

@slartibartfastibast quoting others

“That’s when a friend of mine stumbled over a footnote in an esoteric army report about simulator sickness in virtual environments. Sure enough, military researchers had noticed that women seemed to get sick at higher rates in simulators than men. While they seemed to be able to eventually adjust to the simulator, they would then get sick again when switching back into reality.”

In the future, all women are autistics on testosterone, and the global GDP per capita exceeds $120,000.  Conventional gender as we know it has dissolved and been replaced by a neurotype inventory dynamically read from the global hypergrid.  The largest political bloc is controlled by a rocky alliance between the National Globalists, the Post-Salvation Abrahamic Spiritualists, and the Small Animals subreddit.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[historicaltimes]

Night spear fishing in Hawaii, 1948. Fishermen made torches out of kukui nuts wrapped in leaves on top of a lamaku, a large torch made out of the midrib of a coconut leaf.

via reddit

[jumpingjacktrash]

you can’t fool me that’s a lanternfish

[another-normal-anomaly]

This is transhumanist.

[slartibartfastibast]

No. Toolmaking is just humanist. Transhumanism is a fantasy genre that looks like hard scifi to people autistic enough to think the no-cloning theorem couldn’t possibly apply to consciousness.

[mitigatedchaos]

I mean, Transhumanism isn’t just upload civilizations.  It’s also robot arms.

And we already have robot arms, so it’s likely just a matter of time before they exceed regular arms.

Singulitarianism, on the other hand…

[mitigatedchaos]

Hell, even if brains are quantum and microtubules are used for calculations at the subcellular level, such that you can’t actually duplicate them without destroying them, that doesn’t even stop you from engineering brain augmentations and, on the lesser end, carrying out some pretty heavy body modifications.

The ability of the brain to learn to use experimental neuron-controlled prosthetics, and the ability of people to use that prosthetic thumb device posted just this past week, suggests you aren’t even limited to the standard human template.

This is doubly true if you can push the control hardware and software towards the extremities, as existing human bodies already do, and so you aren’t limited to what will fit inside a single standard-sized skull.

It means you can’t do Eclipse Phase, but Eclipse Phase is a nightmare.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[argumate]

there’s like anime and then there’s anime

the former is animated storytelling and the latter is weaponised nominally female hyperstimulus

I think I even say the two words slightly differently

[mitigatedchaos]

but what if one is a weaponized, nominally-female hyperstimulus, eh? eh?

you can’t deny their identity like that, Argumate!  people have a right to purchase bodies with enormous breasts, oversized eyes, tiny waists that would snap an ordinary human woman in half, and megathighs.  and how can anyone say that the moe-moe set of personality and quirk/behavior templates is invalid?  some people have that as their natural personality, or were raised in moe no otaku cultures like Neo-Kyoto.  what about their rights?  

and what about survivors of the Second Gate communities that are rebelling against the hard restrictions from there?

some people?? are anime girls?? to cope???

don’t be so insensitive

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[mitigatedchaos]

@slartibartfastibast

I don’t think we’ll see Neural Nets creating entire television shows any time soon, in addition to other classes of drawings/images, for two reasons.

1) During the act of creation, human beings are able to constantly evaluate what looks good according to their own tastes, thus acting in a both backwards and forwards search through the content space.  A regular neural network which is orders of magnitude less complex cannot accomplish this or logically reason about it.

2) Filling in certain elements requires higher abstract reasoning, which is more complex and also requires a lot more power.  (e.g., logically deducing facts about things which are not immediately visible in the scene)

What I think we’ll see instead are patches, filters, and tools.  Not “make me a South Park episode”, but “make me a texture of gravel”.  An existing one sharpens up pictures of animu girlz, and likely a NN could be trained to, for example, increase the resolution on old 90′s anime.

[slartibartfastibast]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_networks

(I do agree that low-level feature generation will be used first)

[mitigatedchaos]

Oh, it may well get there eventually, but with the slowdown on Moore’s Law, it depends on one’s evaluation of just how powerful and just how inefficient human brains are - and if they’re doing stuff with microtubules and non-trivial quantum stuff, that suggests something more rather than less powerful than previous estimates.  

It’s likely that, aside from the requirements for replication (itself non-trivial), the human brain’s computational density isn’t that horrifically poorly tuned, probably reflecting tradeoffs in energy consumption, heat dissipation, latency, durability, and so on.

Currently, I’m forecasting specialized modules on dedicated hardware, but I don’t think we’re going to hit the levels of computational cost/density that Kurzweil and the other Singulatarians predicted, as the cost in engineer manhours per chip is going up, last I checked.

(I think I’ve already mentioned some implications for ethics.)

It does cause the information risks you’re worried about long before being able to create an entire South Park episode, however.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

@slartibartfastibast

I don’t think we’ll see Neural Nets creating entire television shows any time soon, in addition to other classes of drawings/images, for two reasons.

1) During the act of creation, human beings are able to constantly evaluate what looks good according to their own tastes, thus acting in a both backwards and forwards search through the content space.  A regular neural network which is orders of magnitude less complex cannot accomplish this or logically reason about it.

2) Filling in certain elements requires higher abstract reasoning, which is more complex and also requires a lot more power.  (e.g., logically deducing facts about things which are not immediately visible in the scene)

What I think we’ll see instead are patches, filters, and tools.  Not “make me a South Park episode”, but “make me a texture of gravel”.  An existing one sharpens up pictures of animu girlz, and likely a NN could be trained to, for example, increase the resolution on old 90′s anime.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

I know they’re wildly impractical, but my goodness, mobile suits would make for an A M A Z I N G deep VR LARP.

Video games are gonna be really intense in about 40 years.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

Look, all I’m saying is that while it isn’t a matter of systematic oppression for each man to prefer that his girlfriend get the purring augmentation, if the vast majority of men have a strong preference, this creates a powerful incentive gradient in which any women who don’t will risk a greater chance of loneliness.

Just because popular VR personas use it now does not justify getting an expensive cybernetic implant, especially since it didn’t really hit the big time until about five years ago.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

[slartibartfastibast]

COED MMA WHEN?

[mitigatedchaos]

North American Mixed Martial Arts Neo-Georgian Light Cyborg Division Semi-Qualifier here. Mostly no co-ed fights until the availability of enhancement evens out the PWR post-war, but the VR stuff before that is plat. Ofc the physical fights are dominated by combat software, but they look spectacular.

[slartibartfastibast]

Galactic blob of brain tissue vs. Cube of computronium.

[mitigatedchaos]

Don’t be like that man, you know the hardware is neuromorphic, and even if the kinetic subcomponents are more carefully engineered, the abstract reasoning has to be grown, and the whole thing has to adapt to the user’s body and integrated with the subconscious. A finely-honed Combat Reaction System is a work of art and I will not have you in this blog if you disagree.

[Oceans Yet to Burn]

Anonymous asked:

What informs your software? What hidden undergirdings are you afraid to look at? In what ways is your IFF calibrated, and by whom? You still have a human heart under there, with a human history.

I have three hearts, anon-san - a primary heart, a secondary backup heart, and an emergency oxygen recirc system for my braincase.  My combat software can continue fighting in excess of 30 minutes even in the event of total loss of consciousness, with a banshee switch in the event of brain death.  (And yes, I know that firmware modification is illegal.)

Besides, to even get the K-band neurotype designation, my brain is mostly human, I just have a few specialized submodules.  Partial-synthetic, not full, and so only subject to limited sanctions under the Human Dignity Act.

Don’t be so worried, Anon.  I’ll be fine.