Does this mean I’m not a Liberal? After all, I have stopped identifying as one.
I guess I’ll have to think about that.
In other words, the core of the problem is that women would choose the “wrong” people to marry, so they should be forcibly restricted in who they can marry for the good of society.
That is fucked up.
Given that we already live in a monogamous society, and 1) the Middle East is significantly more fucked up than our society, and 2) the proponents for polygamy will not make the necessary ideological trades in order to avoid the outcome of becoming more fucked up like the Middle East?
It doesn’t bother me.
Because the argument is generally based on “rights” and “freedoms,” the option “only let men marry stacks of women in proportion to the rate that women marry stacks of men" is not really on the table.
Oh, and, if I were in charge of the country, I would tax junk food. For your “how anti-freedom is Mitigated Chaos” calibration purposes. Additionally, I would ban new cousin marriage out to the second or third degree.
Edit: Oh, and I suppose you don’t support racial anti-discrimination laws, do you?
I will admit, when I realized that each generation must raise the next, and I mean really realized it, not just in passing, I became more right-wing.
@silver-and-ivory why did you
If some subset of society just does whatever they want, as long as it’s not too big, then it doesn’t risk imploding society.
However, for society to continue and be good to live in,
Thus, the family is, in fact, one of the primary core units of society, and of great importance. How people live, in the aggregate, matters a lot. The education and raising of children matter a lot. There is a maximum number ratio of wine-drenched spinsters and perpetual bachelors, beyond which, long-term, any nation will crumble.
How people live determines the wealth of society, the general pleasantness of society, and so on.
The traditional family is likely not the only way children can be raised in a fashion that doesn’t lead to everyone’s doom. It seems like if one worries about the risk of the changing family model imploding society, one should worry about various other similar risks brought by changing lifestyles. Have you similarly become more anti-technology?
No, on the grounds that increasing technological efficiency is a vital necessity to avoid resource exhaustion collapsing society. If we operate with 50′s or 90′s or 2010′s tech indefinitely, we will run out of metals, oil, etc.
If we had far more resources and double the lifespan, I’d say to take each technological change about half as quickly as we do, but we don’t. Instead, we’re in a race against catastrophe.
Edit: I mean yeah, I’m worried about the effects of all this screen-time on toddlers, and I believe that giving smartphones to anyone under about 14 should be socially discouraged, but many of the reasons I want other policies are also reasons I want tech.
I will admit, when I realized that each generation must raise the next, and I mean really realized it, not just in passing, I became more right-wing.
@silver-and-ivory why did you
If some subset of society just does whatever they want, as long as it’s not too big, then it doesn’t risk imploding society.
However, for society to continue and be good to live in,
Thus, the family is, in fact, one of the primary core units of society, and of great importance. How people live, in the aggregate, matters a lot. The education and raising of children matter a lot. There is a maximum number ratio of wine-drenched spinsters and perpetual bachelors, beyond which, long-term, any nation will crumble.
How people live determines the wealth of society, the general pleasantness of society, and so on.
I feel like this is wrong but I have no idea why I feel like that, so have a reblog.
False equivalence. The right doesn’t raise their children to be more virtuous than the left. They have different vices and virtues.
Sure, in some ways. Some patterns work even when done by people who don’t believe in having others follow them.
Also, there is more than one way to be right-wing.
What’s right and left can vary, too. Polygmy is bad for children. However, while in the middle east, polygamy would be Trad, in the United States, it would be the Idpol Left that would legalize it, in the name of “religious tolerance” and a bunch of other things.
And thus, within the context of America, my opposition to it is “right-wing”.
Without getting into a long argument about which left wing virtues are actually virtues, could we agree that the right wing virtues are often those which contribute most directly to intergenerational transmission?
(“Right wing” covers a lot of different groups so to be clear I’m taking about social traditionalists mostly.)
It’s the right, not the left, which treats childbearing itself as a virtue. The right has economic productivity as a virtue. These are two things we need in order to keep having the kind of society we currently have, and ideologies which argue against them are arguing for their own extinction.
Memetic virulence is not moral correctness
“It’s the right, not the left, which treats [the divine right of kings] as a virtue. The right has [mercantilism] as a virtue. These are two things we need to keep having the kind of society we currently have, and ideologies which argue against them are arguing for their own extinction.”
~ conservatives in 1650, probably
Why the hell is humanity so important compared to other species, anyway? I’m pretty sure that dolphins could do a better job than we did with civilization once they develop writing and speech and whatnot.
I honestly don’t care if humanity dies out at this point. At the current time we are responsible for the next generation, but basically we have a 99% chance of fucking the next generation up because of our own failings and the failings of the generations who have come before us. People basically have kids for selfish reasons or because they have basically given up on their own lives and that’s about it.
Signed, a perpetual bachelor whose parents really, really shouldn’t have had kids
Dolphins aren’t going to do anything of the sort. The evolutionary gap is too large, and if they managed to cross it (including migrating back to land), they wouldn’t be dolphins anymore.
Chimps are the better candidate to actually happen, and chimps are fkin’ brutal.
I’m not saying that you, in particular, need to have kids, though.
“Hell, we can’t even get the working class to agree Healthcare is a right and not a privilege.”
Found in the wild. Here, again, the language of “rights” obscures, rather than reveals. After all, if it’s a “right” then that tends to be fairly absolute and imply unlimited healthcare spending, unless deliberately qualified. It also implies that it would have been “a right” even back before healthcare in any modern sense even existed.
So this is part of why I think they’ll fuck it up.
“Healthcare is not a right. You don’t have the right to force a human being to provide you their service with a gun to their head.”
Follows in response, which is similarly clueless for other reasons.
Anonymous asked:
I’ve never seen anyone fumble typing “We need to create a gay clone ethnostate of Kim Jong Un to ensure the physically perfect instantiation of Juche Ideology” this badly before, and really it’s kind of startling.
@poipoipoi-2016
In response to that last, I’ve heard enough stories about my paternal grandparents to really want divorce to be a thing that happens more often, but at the same time, I heard enough stories about Grandma and her six husbands to be deeply suspect of divorce.
I realized that something related showed up in my life. There was a guy I knew online. Black guy living in a city. His step dad had him working at his small business, and it interfered with his ability to complete school. Then he was of age, and the step dad tried to kick him out, but he didn’t have a job, so he was sneaking into the house to avoid ending up homeless. His resume was terrible, just a few cobbled-together, unformatted paragraphs. I would say “shouldn’t they teach resume writing in school?” but even if they did, the terrible step dad might have had him working or something so that he wasn’t able to attend or complete that! But he was a decent guy, and had a good work ethic, so I went through carefully building a resume with him, and he got a job soon enough after and was able to move out. It’s no wonder he had been depressed earlier! And, like, in between then, we got advice from my ex-girlfriend’s partner, who has lived the low-class life, on how to try to keep him out of the street at night until he could move out.
But how many guys like him are out there, even in this country, you know? Who don’t have a hand-me-down laptop and a connection to a bunch of random nerds who know how to write a resume for him so he can get a stable income?
So I can’t really be a true GOPper, but also the risk with the step parents stuff is real.
“Race” is not a biological concept. Someone who looks different from you has the same human genes, just a different grab-bag of dominant traits.
vs.
It is exclusively non-African races, such as white people, who still carry hybrid human/Neanderthal genes.
in the same post.
NEW IDEOLOGY UNLOCKED: NEONEANDETHAL WHITE REVIVALISM + ASIA™
As almost all land was once occupied by the neaderthals, only their closest descendants, such as the White Man, hold the ancestral rights to Earth.
I will admit, when I realized that each generation must raise the next, and I mean really realized it, not just in passing, I became more right-wing.
@silver-and-ivory why did you
If some subset of society just does whatever they want, as long as it’s not too big, then it doesn’t risk imploding society.
However, for society to continue and be good to live in,
Thus, the family is, in fact, one of the primary core units of society, and of great importance. How people live, in the aggregate, matters a lot. The education and raising of children matter a lot. There is a maximum number ratio of wine-drenched spinsters and perpetual bachelors, beyond which, long-term, any nation will crumble.
How people live determines the wealth of society, the general pleasantness of society, and so on.
I will admit, when I realized that each generation must raise the next, and I mean really realized it, not just in passing, I became more right-wing.
