Oceans Yet to Burn

Anonymous asked:

Tbh i find your politics inscrutable, your writing style and your self-memery hit-or-miss, but what the hell, when failure costs little, experimentation should be encouraged, so rock on

Tbh i find your politics inscrutable

I mean, my blog description contains the word “Crypto-Centrist”, so I’m not really going to dispute that.

anons asks politics victory for national technocracy 私

argumate

Everywhere that this mass education model has been in place for significant amounts of time, there is an oversupply in aimless bureaucrat-people without bureaucracies to stuff them into. Europe in particular suffers from ‘mass youth unemployment,’ especially among the educated, which is because they have been educated to fill slots in imaginary bureaucracies which both don’t exist and are uneconomical where they do exist. Because educational bureaucracies have watered down their own standards over the years to be able to accommodate the entire population, many of these aimless bureaucrats are also unsuited for any pursuit that requires much real expertise. Further, their mentalities have been shaped to expect a didactic, predictable, safe, office-existence in which people tell them what they need to ‘learn,’ and then they complete an assignment graded by a light hand.

this bothers me a lot actually (via argumate)

That makes me wonder what weird side-effects my plan for turbo-charged computer learning might have. (I think you’ve read it before.)

politics edu

Anonymous asked:

Tbh I really like your politics but find your writing style and incessant self-meming insufferable.

The memeing (#augmented reality break, #chronofelony, #the year is, etc) serves several purposes…

Provide a break from the politics for people that do like it (which is some of them - the guy tagged in the last post about a children’s rhyme on the cybersecurity of cybernetic augmentations almost immediately liked it)
Lower the tone of the blog from Serious Politics into something more playful (and more closely matching my actual energy/focus/seriousness levels)
Obscure my race and sex, which both constitute potential Discourse Attack Surfaces
Fuck over certain kinds of blog attacks by pre-establishing a range for spontaneous tone-shifting. Various bad-faith social attacks do not deserve a serious response, but regular counter-attacks are too much effort, too, and silence isn’t always appropriate. The meme persona is an option for twisting and distorting these attacks into something that their authors did not intend and against which they do not have pre-existing defenses. (Some people put warding symbols on their blogs for this instead.)

As for the writing style, it is what it is, you either read it or you don’t.

If you only want the actual serious stuff, I recommend the #flagpost and #policy tags.

anons asks politics

slartibartfastibast

mitigatedchaos

War between nation-states, or with factions willing and able to use explosions as weapons, may require explosions.

However, there is a duty to not be a complete fucking idiot about it and invade a country that had nothing to do with the explosions that happened to your country, killing thousands or more, destabilizing the region, and creating the environment suitable for the rise of a violent theocracy.

If one cannot pass this very simple hurdle, one has no business using explosions for any purpose.

politics the iron hand

squareallworthy

Anonymous asked:

Do you honestly think there's any chance that your very intellectual approach to politics will ever translate into a movement radical enough to mobilize people to implement it?

mitigatedchaos answered:

“Very intellectual”

Heh.

Could someone start a knock-off of Singapore’s People’s Action Party and get any seats for it?

Not under the current electoral system in America, though we see elements, bits and pieces can sometimes get through, such as Maine adopting a kind of preference voting for the governor’s seat.

The polarization into two parties is the natural state of the first-past-the-post, winner-take-all electoral system - you want exactly 51% of the vote in order to have the minimum amount of compromise. This creates a lot of dumb politics.

There is, after all, no place for me in the Republican Party, nor in the Democratic Party.

However, while a unified party powerful enough to take power may not emerge, some ideas, elements, and legislative reforms could get through. And if there are subtle changes to the system, then a more unified platform could become viable.

Some of these elements which escape to be adopted by others may be ideological in nature. Some of my posts on Nationalism have caused some local Rationalists to scratch their heads, wondering “wait, why isn’t that the argument actual American nationalists, in the form of the GOP, actually make?” Or otherwise they simply have never been exposed to an argument for Nationalism that is more than performative flag-waving, by the kind of person who believes that nations are both real and fake at the same time, that can see them as constructs, but still considers them desirable. Also, many may not have been exposed to the idea that open borders may be a pathway to an incompetent yet oppressive world government (gradually, over time).

Likewise, in constructing a kind of Social Centrism, most people do not currently have access to arguments against the most liberal positions (on e.g., polygamy) that are rooted in secular considerations and which also take in mind future developments (e.g., Transhumanism).

There is a question - when GOP members exit their current ideological basis, what will they exit to?

By making these arguments, which then are shared, I create a more defensible ideological position of retreat other than just crossing over entirely to the other side.

The ideal body for my politics right now, given conditions, would be a think tank that could conduct research and produce ready-to-sign legislation along pathways that the existing political parties are not currently setup to defend against (insufficient pre-built memetic barriers - battles they don’t even realize they are or will be fighting). This does not require a mass movement, but rather a fairly good-sized chunk of funding and a core of intelligent and motivated contributors.

On a more mass basis, once a more clear ideology is produced, I think it can be simplified in a way that is more easily communicated…

…though that may still have issues generating sufficient excitement.

squareallworthy

If you are concerned about the polity in a multi-racial society breaking up into a number of racially-aligned parties, then isn’t the two-party system we have in the United States a good idea?

mitigatedchaos

A good question, but is it better to have one “White Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?

Or one “White + Asian Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?

The real answer, I think, is to knock it the fuck off and realize that Melting Pot + Civic Nationalism is the superior model for racial harmony vs. SJ and its subtextual ethnonationalism and racial intellectual property rights.

Source: mitigatedchaos politics racepol

Anonymous asked:

Do you honestly think there's any chance that your very intellectual approach to politics will ever translate into a movement radical enough to mobilize people to implement it?

“Very intellectual”

Heh.

Could someone start a knock-off of Singapore’s People’s Action Party and get any seats for it?

Not under the current electoral system in America, though we see elements, bits and pieces can sometimes get through, such as Maine adopting a kind of preference voting for the governor’s seat.

There is, after all, no place for me in the Republican Party, nor in the Democratic Party.

There is a question - when GOP members exit their current ideological basis, what will they exit to?

By making these arguments, which then are shared, I create a more defensible ideological position of retreat other than just crossing over entirely to the other side.

On a more mass basis, once a more clear ideology is produced, I think it can be simplified in a way that is more easily communicated…

…though that may still have issues generating sufficient excitement.

anons asks politics national technocracy victory for national technocracy flagpost

argumate

xhxhxhx:

During the Second World War, the Japanese Canadian population of coastal British Columbia was divided and resettled across the Canadian interior.
The Japanese Canadians did not concentrate anywhere. There were no resettled communities, only families and individuals. They did not live close to one another. They did not make new communities, out of a fear that they might once again become public enemies.
A few thousand left for Japan after the war was over. Those who stayed in Canada did not usually return to their homes in the Pacific exclusion area, which had been sold by civilian authorities at a profit.
The resettled families did not keep their language. They did not keep their culture. They kept friends among themselves, but they did not do it in public, and they did not pass it on to their children. Their children went to Anglophone schools. They made Anglophone friends.
And as the older generation died, it forgot. Their children grew up in a community that was not their own. But, for those children, it was different. This was their home now. This was their community.
Almost. They felt apart from it, somehow. Sometimes, by a word or a look, they felt as though they did not belong. They felt as though there was something missing. Sometimes they felt as though they did not know where they had come from. Sometimes they felt as though they did not know who they were.
They felt as though their parents had taken something from them. They had done it out of fear, or out of hope. The children had not understood what they were missing. Their parents understood it much too well.
As adults, they talked to one another, those with the same skin, with the same names, about that feeling of absence. Not often, but sometimes.
But they forgot those feelings, and those moments, most of the time. They lived and worked in a world that told them this was their community, and these were their people, and this was where they belonged.
Until it isn’t.
Until, suddenly, they remember.

mitigatedchaos

Doesn’t this suggest Ethnic Nationalism, though?

ethnopol racepol culturepol politics

DNA identification of all citizens, but the State only stores a series of hashes rather than the DNA itself, for reasons of privacy.

mitigated future not entirely a shtpost politics

For those who haven’t been reading my blog long enough to know this:

One of my goals is to invent a new form of Nationalism, adapted to the 21st century, powered by new organizational and information technologies.

Not a racial nationalism, nor what people have in mind with an ethnic one, but a kind of National Technocracy, where the nation is ruled effectively by true experts - not merely the credentialed - for the benefit of its citizens, selected through new forms of republic or democracy.

This is unrealistic, I admit, but then so was the last election, and I can feel how the Overton Window has opened up, and maybe some fragment of it will fall to Earth and improve something, somewhere.

nationalism victory for national technocracy politics

poipoipoi-2016

mitigatedchaos

Broke: Lowering immigration is racist because immigrants are predominantly non-white, and therefore any opposition to immigration necessarily stems from white supremacist racism.

Woke: Not lowering immigration is racist, because bringing in better unskilled or low-skilled employees disproportionately hurts those in our society who are the worst off in terms of health, education, family structure, and contact with the criminal justice system, and that is very much skewed, racially, in our country. Support for mass immigration is just white people showing off how tolerant they are while pushing off the costs on other groups.

defectivealtruist

immigrants don’t count as people worth helping, apparently

mitigatedchaos

If you’re going to make the tradeoff, admit you’re making the tradeoff. Don’t lie and call everyone else racist.

Rationalist Tumblr does reasonably well at that. The Democratic Party and its pundits and associated left wing political operatives do not.

Likewise, don’t heavily restrict the construction of new housing units while calling for mass immigration and becoming viscerally upset at any attempt to slow immigration and insulting the people that want to slow immigration, then complain about high housing prices.

Which is, once again, something Rationalist Tumblr does much better than the Democratic Party.

And quite frankly, I see no reason to believe the latter will improve.

Maybe you do, but I suspect that instead, SJ will eat you alive.

poipoipoi-2016

My position on immigration is basically a function of the national rent/income ratio.

Because either we’re a growing nation that invites in immigrants, or we’re not, but the one thing we’d better damn well not be is a nation that invites in another couple hundred million people this century and then forces everybody to live with roommates with hellish commutes down choked, collapsing, under-provisioned infrastructure (like the Bay Area presently does).

mitigatedchaos

This is what I mean, in small part.

The change, the increase in housing stock for an increase in population, is part of the Happy Liberal Land that Rattumb readers must deliver.

I believe in Nationalism, but how willing am I to fight for it? How willing am I to invent new forms of it that may spread in the 21st century? The nation-state is not dead yet. It isn’t even doomed. The idea that it is, is a Liberal fantasy.

I am willing to fight for it to the degree that you fail.

(*not you, poipoipoi)

Source: mitigatedchaos politics

See, that’s what the app is perfect for.