So with the Antifa ripping down a confederate statue, perhaps Social Justice Capture the Flag is back from a few years ago.
And with that, perhaps they will all switch over to doing property crimes instead of wailing on each other with bats and bike locks and what-have-you, and tensions will de-escalate.
Hopefully. I mean if that does happen it’s probably worth the price of a few statues.
in the past I kind of dissed Greg Egan for overlooking the possibility of Islamic terrorism, but his (fictional) predictions of resurgent Aryan Nationalist groups in the near future seem increasingly reasonable, even if he didn’t quite get the memetic background entirely right, focusing more on a kind of New Age woo than the clusterfuck of retreads from the 1930s mixed with Pepe memes that we actually ended up with.
one of the things that does feel very real is the concept of “science” treated as a political football getting kicked around by nominally leftist and rightist groups whose connection to reality grows ever more tenuous
Well, when you combine people getting excited about demographic replacement with people who still pretty unapologetically believe in Collective Ethnic Intergenerational Justice, then of course ethnic majority ethnic nationalism is going to rise.
If you got dudes talking like they’re going to take ‘revenge’ for stuff that happened decades or even centuries ago, well, that’s the basis of a lot of “ethnic tension” and ethnic violence.
another prediction was that widespread genetic testing would end up getting picked up by ethnoracial nationalists as an ironclad way of determining group membership, particularly focused on Y chromosome inheritance, thus you’re either a descendant of the historical Father of the People or the interloping usurper descendant of some barbarian rapist; thankfully that idea hasn’t got off the ground yet
We’ll have genetic engineering by the time it would have taken off, I think, which is going to weird effects on the whole race politics thing.
Hopefully good ones. If we’re lucky (and we might actually be in this one particular case), we may be able to patch the genes of adults, too.
We toppled a confederate statue! Fuck the klan, confederacy, and the cops!
video source: https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis
I gotta say that politics aside, there’s something fuckin’ awesome about toppling statues, it’s just a great visual
Honestly, I don’t know what the reaction to this will be. It’s probably a better choice than physically beating each other up in mobs, though, and maybe we’ll get a return of Social Justice Capture The Flag and people will calm down.
in the past I kind of dissed Greg Egan for overlooking the possibility of Islamic terrorism, but his (fictional) predictions of resurgent Aryan Nationalist groups in the near future seem increasingly reasonable, even if he didn’t quite get the memetic background entirely right, focusing more on a kind of New Age woo than the clusterfuck of retreads from the 1930s mixed with Pepe memes that we actually ended up with.
one of the things that does feel very real is the concept of “science” treated as a political football getting kicked around by nominally leftist and rightist groups whose connection to reality grows ever more tenuous
Well, when you combine people getting excited about demographic replacement with people who still pretty unapologetically believe in Collective Ethnic Intergenerational Justice, then of course ethnic majority ethnic nationalism is going to rise.
If you got dudes talking like they’re going to take ‘revenge’ for stuff that happened decades or even centuries ago, well, that’s the basis of a lot of “ethnic tension” and ethnic violence.
Ok a little bit political
I’m glad I don’t have a brainless racist narcist demented idiot for president. Oh and, when he got elected I already predicted this would lead to a new civil war.
Aren’t you in Europe?
Come now, you Europeans love America! That’s why you’re trying to turn Europe into America after all, with internal open borders, a federal government, a unified currency, and the emergence of a monoculture founded on those three traits, which has only minor regional differences in culture.
Soon you’ll have your own New New York, with your very own Orange Man. It’ll be great.
@mitigatedchaos What do you know about Europeans? We have some sort of hate-love for you guys.
Look, mate.
Trump complaints from Euros just convince Trump’s base that Trump is on the right path, especially in the form of “brainless narcissist” etc.
It often goes hand-in-hand with an idea of Europeans as the more Cultured and Refined civilization - but the kinds of people that expressed those ideas in America are also the ones put their cultural and economic interests ahead of the Rust Belt voters that gave Trump the Presidency, and frequently insulted them (and celebrated their demographic replacement).
Trump’s base has a negative amount of trust for them.
So that makes the post a good opportunity to dunk on the European Union as a project by pointing out the irony involved.
The reason the US dollar functions well despite spanning a continent, while the Euro has contributed to the collapse in Greece, is a combination of US Federal government spending and higher labor mobility, which evens out the spread of dollars. The spending and issuing of currency are unified at the same level of government, allowing them to work together. (This can also kinda work with some separation if the economies are similar enough.)
That is not the case in the EU, where the currency issuing and government spending are separated, and the government performance levels are quite dissimilar.
To unify them, it would be necessary to shift even more power to the EU government (which is apparently happening). To make a true European Federation, not a mere European Union. That would make Europe much more similar to America in structure.
Secondly, it requires the increased labor mobility. Cultural uniqueness grows in environments with friction that allow drift from other cultures and cuts the rate of memetic transmission, and the increased overhead of communication, up to a certain level, makes business harder rather than easier. (Think language barriers as an example.)
So all those people moving around to where the money is will start to converge on a more unified culture as a means of doing business more easily (like having only one or two languages that they all share!), just like in the United States of America. Cultural traditions will spread more quickly and widely, meaning there will be fewer of them. Cultural preferences, too, will be more evenly distributed throughout the Continent.
Plus this whole thing about “increasing diversity” by importing large numbers of foreigners like America will also erode the local traditions as they do not share them. Instead, they’ll buy into the new broader Euroculture.
So Europeans are complaining about the American President while taking the steps required to make Europe much more like America - eventually France and Germany will be no more different from each other than New York state and Illinois.
Anyhow, only going halfway at it is actually even worse, as it causes things like the situation in Greece. Either be a true Federation or be independent nations.
And yes, I know not all European countries are in the EU, or have the same level of integration into the EU. After all, Britain kept the Pound (a decision I agree with).
Ok a little bit political
I’m glad I don’t have a brainless racist narcist demented idiot for president. Oh and, when he got elected I already predicted this would lead to a new civil war.
Aren’t you in Europe?
Come now, you Europeans love America! That’s why you’re trying to turn Europe into America after all, with internal open borders, a federal government, a unified currency, and the emergence of a monoculture founded on those three traits, which has only minor regional differences in culture.
Soon you’ll have your own New New York, with your very own Orange Man. It’ll be great.
The other thing about people demanding Nazi punching and saying anyone who chooses nonviolence is a coward is…
…I get the very strong impression fights are exactly what Nazis want.
Just look at the Pr00d B0ys’ “degrees.”
I tried to explain this to someone and got accused of “defending Nazis.” (Though not about the PBs specifically; I haven’t kept an eye on them.)
Maybe they can strike a deal.
The right-wingers will agree to call the recent Car of Peace a “white supremacist domestic terrorist attack”,
and the left-wingers will agree to call the various vehicular attacks in Europe “radical Islamic terrorism”.
“In order to defeat the Nazi in your street, you must first defeat the Nazi in your heart,” the guru said.
Many in the room began to wonder if the man was truly a member of Antifa.
doxxing someone based on clearly identifying information: good
doxxing someone based on “this profile picture looks like the guy in this blurry, poorly-lit photo”: bad
in practice people have wildly differing standards for “clearly identifying”, and there have been dozens of false doxxing attempts on Reddit based on pictures taken in perfectly good light.
7.5 billion people on Earth! unless they’re wearing name tags it’s surprisingly easy to mix ‘em up.
the doxxing guy on twitter already got doxxed by /pol/ cuz he saved $10/year on whois protection
“Doxx not, lest ye be doxxed.”
- some religion guy, probably
