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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna

One of the classic problems around requiring regulations is that people just don’t have, and cannot easily obtain, that much information about businesses sometimes, which is required for markets to actually work.  

(Even when information is free or nearly-free, the Market pays people to sabotage it, just like it pays people to sabotage Market competition through buying politicians.)

This is part of my interest in substituting mandatory insurance schemes for explicit regulations, provided the insurance regulations are themselves well-designed.  The customer may not know much about the safety of the business, but the insurance company, which has a long-standing relationship with the business, does.  

And the less the insurance company knows about the business, the more money it charges for insurance, offsetting some of the risk of harm and potentially communicating risk information to customers.

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“ There is a strong correlation between immigration—particularly illegal immigration—and wages. This should be obvious to anyone familiar with the fundamental principle of supply and demand: more supply (workers) means lower...
diarrheaworldstarhiphop

There is a strong correlation between immigration—particularly illegal immigration—and wages.  This should be obvious to anyone familiar with the fundamental principle of supply and demand: more supply (workers) means lower prices (wages), and vice versa.

Despite the fact that this correlation between immigration and wages is well-documented, it is not obvious to many liberal economists, who see immigration as an unfettered economic benefit.  The evidence suggests otherwise, including a new data reported by Fox.

According to the National Association of Home Builders, more than 56% of America’s developers are reporting labor shortages, which is forcing them to increases wages and improve working conditions to attract new talent.

In fact, according to Ted Wilson of Residential Strategies Inc. construction costs have risen by 30% this year—the majority of which is due to higher wages and increased overtime pay.  That is, companies are being forced to hire American workers, and pay wages at fair market value.

Why?

Because President Trump’s crackdown on illegal immigration is preventing them from hiring illegal aliens, who undercut the labor market, shortchanging American workers.  The impact of this (while often ignored) is significant.

According to Stan Market, CEO of Texas’ Marek, “half of the workers in construction in Texas are undocumented.”

He goes on to say that many of them are leaving Texas, either to find refuge in sanctuary cities and states, and “many of them are going back to Mexico.”

This is good news for American workers, who have been hammered in recent decades.  In fact, real wages have not risen for the median American worker since 1973, in part because of the deflationary effects of illegal immigration.

And just to be clear, this is not an isolated event—wages will rise in tandem with deportations and other labor restrictions (such as if, and when, the RAISE Act becomes law).

We know this because it’s happening elsewhere already.  For example, the restriction of temporary work visas in Maine earlier this year led to higher wages, better working conditions, and lower unemployment—all good for the average American citizen.

mitigatedchaos

Look, I know you guys all think this is evil.  And it’s probably not preferable to ending jus soli and issuing more legitimate agricultural visas/etc.

But despite all the people on Facebook talking about how the guy is a nightmare monster from the darkest dreams of the Alt Right come to life, I’m telling you right now that he has a non-trivial chance of re-election unless the Democrats get their shit together.

I pegged it at 50% earlier, reduced it to 40%, but it isn’t a 10% chance or less.

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theunitofcaring

Anonymous asked:

War on North Korea, good idea or bad idea?

theunitofcaring answered:

I would say worst idea but I think I should probably expect even worse ones. 

mitigatedchaos

North Korea gives a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb to Islamic terrorists.

They use it to destroy Manhattan.

Currently improbable, but the possibility increases each day NK is not brought into compliance.

9/11 got us the Iraq War.  As far as I can tell, Islam was mostly just considered a Weird Foreign Religion before then.

I don’t want to see what the nuclear destruction of Trump Tower would do.

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misanthropymademe

Ancaps and neonationalists in the same thread, lel. The fact that these people are bedfellows just betrays their utter lack of principles. 

mitigatedchaos

To be fair, most immigrants coming in are for more government interference, and AnCapism/Libertarianism can only be instantiated with sufficient public support. (For my part I want *better* government interference, but then, I’m not an AnCap.)

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The Google Memo: Next Steps

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One day has passed. Manifestbro was named, shamed and fired.

Instead of the version that gizmodo published, with the links and graphs stripped out, we have the full version of the memo now.

I think it’s important to understand that this memo was not written *for* the public to read, but for Google management. I don’t think the guy realised this would get more than a hundred views, or he might have posted it anonymously on wordpress. The sucker thought this would stay inside Google. What a douchebro!

There have been bits of insightful commentary, and most of the rest boiled down to “It’s true, but he should not say it“. @slatestarscratchpad had written a piece in reply to a reply to the memo, both of which focused of the science of gender differences, which were only tangentially related to the actionable recommendations from the memo about anti-diversity training.

Google executives have hand-wrung about valuing free expression and this should be discussed, but

People have lost their shit over words like “agreeableness“, “openness“, “conscientiousness“ and “neuroticism“. Basically social psychology terminology is sexist now, which brings be to my …

Next Step: Go After Scientists

I’m being 100% serious here. I believe that the SJWs who hated this memo should do this one weird thing to maximise their culture war impact:

  • Click the links in the memo
  • Compile a list of scientists
  • Ask them to disavow of the memo
  • Go public

Otherwise manifestbro will find work at another place, and another Googler will find the same hatefacts on arXiv or PLoS. This is a pipeline problem. As long as there are “scientific“ studies on gender differences, people will use them. Especially genius Harvard biologists.

So you have to make it clear, drill it into people’s heads: If you continue researching this shit, there will be consequences! (Be vague about consequences here. Ostensibly you mean to imply that certain research output will turn genius Harvard biologists alt-right, but you also want to darkly hint at ~~consequences~~)

Once you establishes contact with a scientist, any of the coauthors of the linked papers, ask them if they think that their research directly supports the conclusions of the memo. Don’t let them weasel out. If they tell you that there is no direct link between the quality of sensitivity training (which they probably did not measure) at Google and OCEAN traits in undergrads, tell them to condemn the memo then, to be on the safe side.

If they tell you that they want to stay out of it, get inventive: Contact the student union at their institution or leak the names of their grad students on your twitter!

Ask them to

  • condemn the memo
  • publicly praise the importance of sensitivity training
  • acknowledge their own responsibility for creating alt-right memes
  • retract the paper they wrote cited in the memo
  • not again publish results that put women at risk

Make them publicly commit to these pledges!

If they refuse, tweet! This is your one chance to destroy the root of the evil and to leave nothing but scorched earth. Things are in motion. Reactionaries don’t know if their increased visibility from the memo will help them coordinate, or if it will lead to a coordinated expulsion of known reactionaries. Don’t let counterrevolutionary elements take root! Now is your chance!

Ever forward! Fire and motion!

mitigatedchaos

Ah, but how did we get the new reactionaries? The disadvantage of this method is that subsequent conversions to the right wing are permanent. Once someone finds out that “forced envelopment” got classified as something other than rape in study after the CDC contacted some institutional feminist, for instance, they aren’t going to believe Feminist studies anymore. At that point, getting them to come back to feminism becomes impossible. The number of hatefacts may be reduced, but every hatefact becomes more potent.

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fierceawakening

Weird question time: what does it mean not to have a stable sense of self?

I ask because I am not sure I’ve experienced that. Every time I’ve felt something that I can imagine describing that way, it hasn’t been about not knowing what my self was, it’s been about being ashamed. Like, being convinced that what I know is important to me is bad and trying to disavow it and feeling unmoored in response because nothing I tried to replace it with felt right.

Is that what not having a stable sense of self is? Or does not having a stable sense of self mean literally not being sure what you like and want, rather than just not being sure it’s ok to want or like those things?

cromulentenough

I don’t know if i have a stable sense of self, but like, i feel that i get easily convinced or swayed by people and I pick up mannerisms from people i like and talk to or hang out with a lot, i feel like i don’t have very much of a personality. I do have likes and opinions and aesthetics that i like, but not that many that are strong and i feel like it’s hugely affected by people i like around me or that i respect or follow online. I find it hard to decide whether i like something a lot of the time when it comes to things like media.

mitigatedchaos

Yessssss,

just keep reading this blog and start believing that we need to replace the government with the thing that comes after what happens when you fuse think tanks, political parties, a hypothetical National Utility Function, and stock markets, wearing uniforms from old governments whose era long since passed, and preparing for the final robot war to seize control of the Moon

nothing could possibly go wrong

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mitigatedchaos

The National Delegation

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In case you haven’t noticed recently, democracy has major issues.  Every major developed state is strewn with dysfunction and programs that are actively at odds with their intended purposes.  Our politicians are either incompetent idiots or shrewd operators working against our interests.

Policies routinely have reasonable stated values, but terrible efficacy.

Organizations such as the RAND Corporation knew the Iraq War would be a lot tougher than the Bush administration said it would be.  Policy plans coming out of think tanks seem to be better than the actual policies we get.

If we didn’t know they’d immediately get subverted, we’d almost be better off with think tanks running the country.

Better results are necessarily different results, and systems produce the outcomes they incentivize, so to change the results it is necessary to change the system.

The truth is, it may be possible to get something like think tanks in charge of the government, a hybrid between them and political parties, but we will have to add selection pressure to ensure they work towards correctness.

I propose a new legislature, composed of a new kind of corporate entity, the Delegate Candidate Organization (DCO).  

Every three years, at election time, each voter delegates their vote to a DCO.  The top 50 Delegate Candidate Organizations then form the legislature, becoming that term’s Delegate Organizations.  This legislature is known as the National Delegation.

In a second election, those DCOs that did not make the cut delegate their votes to members of the top 50.

(In an optional alternative, the vote could be split between DCOs by categories by voters, allowing a truly innovative level of representation.  Bills would have to pass on all categories to pass, and the tax category would determine how funding is obtained, but not total expenditures.  Sadly, this is probably too complex for typical voters.)

A Delegate Candidate Organization receives its funding exclusively from the State.  For each delegated vote it receives, the DCO receives $5 in annual funding, and an additional $5 times its percentile standing in a legislative outcome prediction market.

(That might sound like a lot.  America has around 300 million people, so you could potentially be looking at three billion dollars.  I would answer that the 2016 Presidential election cost $2.6 billion by itself, and that money had to come from somewhere and is already influencing our political process.  The size of the US economy is $18,570 billion dollars.  The real question is whether better policy by the DCOs could improve that by 0.016% or more, which would make the National Delegation pay for itself.  I believe that it would.)

The key factor that makes DCOs behave more like think tanks is that a significant chunk of their funding depends on correctly estimating the outcomes of legislation.  What keeps them honest?  First, competition with other DCOs that will pressure them against spoiling the metrics.  Second, voters.

When a piece of legislation is to be passed, DCOs make predictions on outcomes and bet on them in a virtual currency called Credibility Score (or just “Cred”).  Each outcome must be represented by a basket of multiple metrics, to prevent min-maxing.

This structure allows us to build a differentiation between a policy’s values and its efficacy.  Previous discourse has often viewed policy as solely a matter of efficacy, but of course in practice people have different preferences and are not a unified mass just waiting for enlightenment into [your political ideology].  Preserving the values component (in part through voting) also allows bits of efficacy that have slipped through to be represented on the other side of the equation.

The bets serve two purposes.  The first is to reward policymakers that are actively effective at achieving their stated objectives, and punish policymakers that are too unaligned with reality.  The second is to effectively tell voters what the plans will actually do, not just wishy washy language pols want people to hear.

“This bill will reduce gun crime.”
“By how much?”
“Uh… a, uh, lot.”

Not only can the DCO specify what its % estimate for a decrease in gun crime is, but it can also communicate its level of certainty - by how much it bets on the outcome as a percentage of its current Cred reserves, data that can be mined by political scientists and journalists.

DCOs must be able to amend predictions when new legislation is passed.  A court will also be required to punish those who tamper with metrics, and resolve other disputes.  The details of that are a challenge in themselves, but should be feasible to work out.

Each DO has as many votes in the legislature as have been delegated to it.  A majority is required to pass legislation.

The accumulated Credibility Score/Cred across all bets is used to determine the percentile standing of all DCOs, used to determine funding (as above).  Percentile standing is listed on the ballot next to the DCO’s name, but to simplify things for voters, DCOs are listed in the order of votes received in the previous election.


Practical experiments will be necessary to assess the viability of this model, but I have high hopes for it.  If we want to advance as a civilization, then we must develop new organizational technologies.

mitigatedchaos

Think you need to take a closer look at Robin Hanson, something I thought I’d never say

Specifically, the problem is that predicting the results isn’t the issue, it’s predicting the change in results given some policy change

I think Hanson has people bet on outcome both with and without policy

I may have to look into that, but it doesn’t sound unreasonable. Betting for outcomes based on whether the bill passes or fails to pass certainly provides more information for our voters/etc.

One big problem is that people are going to use this not to predict, but to hedge

It will be financialized

If you believe Hanson that markets are perfect, that’s not a problem it will all work out

if you haven’t had your skull smashed with a brick every day for the past 20 years or worked in the econ dept at GMU, you should be skeptical.

Sorry, I guess I should have been more clear in my intentions earlier.

While the probability estimates produced by the prediction market are interesting, the real purposes are more like: 

1. Punish politicians that are actively at odds with the truth/reward those who have some idea what they’re doing, so that eventually the system is dominated by more clueful politicals who spend less time huffing ideology.  Hopefully, this will result in more effective policy which is more aligned with reality.

(I’m of the opinion that there are many policies that it’s said you can’t do, because markets etc, but which you could do if you were smart about it.  So I want those to come up, actually testing some of these policies before they come up, etc.)

2. Make politicians be more specific and truthful about the outcomes of policies in measurable ways, making it more difficult to do one thing and say another.

3. Track the effectiveness of policies over time so that better policy can be created in the future (through the metrics gathered to feed the market, not the market itself).

Would hedging interfere with those?  I’m not so sure.  It is, itself, information.  It may also depend on the market’s design itself.

mitigatedchaos

@collapsedsquid

Alright, then you’re gonna have the problem of “who gets to decide what comes up for prediction and how?” with the various possibilities for manipulation.

Yes, a challenge in itself.  My opinion is that it must be easier to get stuff into the prediction pool than it is to pass the legislation.  Otherwise, it just degrades to normal legislature with some fluff on top.

So, off the top of my head, it may require 30-40% approval to get an item into the prediction pool, perhaps with a limit on the number of items each DCO can put into the pool.

Second and related is that you can basically rewarding people who are connected rather than accurate

To some extent, this doesn’t matter, connections are a part of effective policy too, much as I wish they were not

But it comes down to who can manipulate the outcomes and who has the inside track on what people will do.

- court will be needed so they can sue each other when they cheat

- baskets of metrics harder to game than single metric, so all metrics must be baskets

- hard to actually game some of the more challenging ones by outside interference if metric collection is at all accurate, simply too costly, borders on cost of actually fixing the problem

I’ll expand on this when I have access to an actual computer, which will be a while.

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afloweroutofstone

The Rand Corporation has done more than basically any group in the twentieth century to shape what kind of world we’re living in now, and they’re weirdly unrecognized for that

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the fact they’re responsible for the MAD nuclear deterrence doctrine alone is mind boggling

mitigatedchaos

Did you know they were aware that the Iraq War would be, well, more like it actually was and less lile the Bush administration thought it would be? Which is less impressive by itself, but more impressive relative to the cluelessness of various other US government institutions.

After that, I began to wonder if government quality could be improved by replacing the legislature with think tanks.

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