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diarrheaworldstarhiphop

Anonymous asked:

whats wrong with apartheid

diarrheaworldstarhiphop answered:

what’s right about it? If it were such a beneficial, sustainable and lauded system of civic management, you’d think it’d result in stability and mutual flourishment rather than misery and insurrection.

mitigatedchaos

If you’re gonna do “no ethnic groups allowed to mix” (not rate-limited mixing or frictional mixing or some-characteristics-but-not-others mixing, etc), then the way to do it is to give each group their own sovereign polity.  Then they don’t have to fight you for control of “your” polity.

Of course, if one is planning to conquer stuff this isn’t really a suitable approach, but that conquest thing is not exactly a whole basket of ethics, itself.

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argumate

Anonymous asked:

but like. i am american. i live in america. my experiences with american cops have all been rather pleasant. its just... odd to see such discrepancy between my experiences and the experiences of others with the police.

argumate answered:

Google suggests that there are some 1 million law enforcement personnel in the US, so even if only 10% were total assholes that’s still 100,000 assholes that you might never meet, depending on where you live and how they are distributed.

In practice the assholish behaviour is more likely to be structural than personal, making the distribution even less balanced; so you would expect that some people will meet only asshole cops and others would meet hardly any.

mitigatedchaos

Quality and aggressiveness of law enforcement varies significantly within the United States, and I don’t just mean state-by-state, I mean town-by-town.

I lived in a professional suburb growing up, the kind of place professionals move to when they want to raise children.  We didn’t have the shootings, framings, etc.  We also didn’t have much in the way of crime, and town revenues were not a problem.

But then you have other places where the town is running out of money as density collapses and decides to loot the population to stay afloat.  Or places in the inner cities where structural problems lead to severe cyclical poverty and no one with power cares about the police not being terrible.

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mutant-aesthetic
mutant-aesthetic

I’m actually really curious what environmentally-minded lefties plan on doing about the fact that people in Africa are having way too many goddamn babies

Like Macron just recently pointed out that this was a huge problem and a lot of lefties went bonkers and got really mad but the African population boom and all the resulting effects are going to be more or less catastrophic for the planet

mitigatedchaos

The plan is to migrate them all here, because developed nations have infinite money and structural reinforcement.  Or there is no plan.  Just cross your fingers and hope it all works out.

Hitler is the Satan figure of modern progressivism/liberalism.  Anything that even has the slightest whiff of something he might maybe have once possibly considered doing for a few seconds is tainted by association.  On top of that, there have been previous racist actions in the developed nations.  On top of that, it has been decided that the majority whites of the developed nations bear the original sin for racism.

Telling people to have fewer kids is worth celebrating by progressivism, but only if you’re telling white people.  Telling anyone else is vile racism.  (Even, of course, if it would lead to terrible conditions in majority-PoC countries.)

For the progressives that actually notice that you can only consume what is produced, and that while the wealthy have a pretty good-sized amount of money it isn’t anywhere near unlimited, embracing any discouragement of population growth is considered too dangerous, a slippery slope to eugenics and baby licenses.

…even to the ones that “jokingly” suggested swapping everyone’s babies to end “genetic chauvinism”, I would imagine.

Of course the Conservatives keep trying to kill abortion in those areas with their controls on American government aid funding, so mostly they don’t really care, either.  Catholics I’ve encountered seem to believe that God Will Provide or something, one of them talking about the Earth supporting a potential population of 100 billion.

Only a few villains see this as an issue, like you, me, and Emmanuel Macron.

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collapsedsquid
collapsedsquid

I see economcis stuff about birthrates in western countries every once in a while from economists (In addition to the white genocide types of course), and I do wonder what a state would do that took seriously issued of birthrate. For right now it’s not a critical problem, but I wonder what policies you would need.  Universal childcare?  Paid Surrogacy?

I do wonder about that last one sometimes actually, would it be possible to raise entire generations as basically wards of the state?  Is that going to be the future?  At some point hopefully, the world will be industrialized, so the current solution won’t last forever.

mitigatedchaos

It depends on how serious they really are, and what the dominant ideology is.

Liberalism’s answer is to import immigrants, but if that weren’t feasible they’d begin running out of options before they’d have to switch to another ideology.

Someone like me would be willing to take more drastic measures as total collapse loomed, including having the state raise children on its own if necessary.

I don’t think really any state is serious about this.  Not Japan, not even Singapore.

politics

I will say, rattumb migrationists have the virtue to believe that gentrification, too, is a necessary tradeoff in favor of freedom of movement/commerce, and thus are more ideologically consistent than a number of left politicals.

And therefore we don’t get the double-bind where the ethnic majority either leaving or entering the city is considered problematic in both directions at once, acting as a cover for what are actually class concerns.  (And also rattumb has greater awareness of what might actually sort out housing prices.)

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argumate
argumate

A good example of political correctness is the party line on Joss Whedon shifting over time.

argumate

One can try and stay ahead of the curve, hence the stern admonitions about the new Doctor Who being problematic because the lady is white.

argumate

But one can be politically incorrect by being too far ahead of the curve; much like trading the market one must be careful not to be too early or too late.

quasi-normalcy

The trick is to never show enthusiasm for anything until you know whether it is problematic or not.

argumate

And be prepared to instantly disavow or recontextualise past opinions every time the winds shift; for this is in fact what political correctness means.

mitigatedchaos

Political Correctness Limit Hypothesis: For any given item X, the odds of being declared problematic approach 1 as the time t goes to infinity.

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feathery-dreamer
feathery-dreamer:
“ zelsbels:
“ dasha-loses-it:
“ cisnowflake:
“ unaffiliatedpangolin:
“ libfas:
“Guuuys ;:’( they just want to COME HOOME,, our evil MEDIA is fearmongering against terrorists :’(’ They don’t UNDERSTAND why you’re scared of them???...
libfas

Guuuys ;:’( they just want to COME HOOME,, our evil MEDIA is fearmongering against terrorists :’(’ They don’t UNDERSTAND why you’re scared of them??? They just wanted to help civilians and accidentally ended up posing with Kalashnikovs and corpses ??? They just want to FORGET AND MOVE ON whjy wan’t you guys just move on????

unaffiliatedpangolin

Sweden is a lost cause. 

cisnowflake

Link- http://www.newsweek.com/isis-members-europe-cant-get-jobs-when-they-return-home-629593

Quick question though, why are they allowing these people back into their countries in the first place?

dasha-loses-it

Because they’ve spent decades pushing for this all-inclusive nonsense and are now unable to go back in their words, because they will lose the same voters they’ve so carefully raised.

zelsbels

they don’t fucking deserve jobs

feathery-dreamer

Unpopular opinion maybe, but give them credit for at least realizing how badly they fucked up. I’m not saying we should make their lives particularly easy and trust them, but c'mon. Don’t go saying they should NEVER get a normal life, because this lesson might just make them better people in the future; you don’t wanna lose such powerful allies.

mitigatedchaos

What they have done is not so easily forgiven.  Ordinarily, the punishment for such a thing should be death.

But one must be aware of the incentives.  

That would prevent demobilization, if they will always and forever be hunted for death throughout the world.  Ideally, we do want people to quit being members of the force with throws gays off of buildings while tied to chairs.

So instead, a more suitable punishment would be exile under penalty of death.  They must be made an example for others.  This behavior will not be tolerated.  They may never again return to the gentle (relative to DAESH, anyway) places of Europe.

The behavior of ISIS creates terrible territories that few want to live in.  It is only sensible, then, that they should have to live in those territories, if not as punishment, then to prevent our territories from becoming the same.

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mitigatedchaos
mitigatedchaos:
“ argumate:
“ kontextmaschine:
“ stoicmike:
“If I was born in some other country I would be waving some other flag. – Michael Lipsey
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I’m Prepared To Give My Life For This Or Any Country ”
I Love My Mother But If She Was Not My...
stoicmike

If I was born in some other country I would be waving some other flag. – Michael Lipsey

kontextmaschine

I’m Prepared To Give My Life For This Or Any Country

argumate

I Love My Mother But If She Was Not My Mother I Don’t Think I Would Hold Her In Particularly High Regard To Be Honest.

mitigatedchaos

And Therefore Mothers Are Meaningless

mitigatedchaos

The funny thing is that between your response @argumate, and @nuclearspaceheater‘s, you two managed to pretty much implicitly dismember the OP’s post, especially if more levels of metaphor are taken into account.

Which, not really that difficult in this case.  It’s only one level of contrarianism above performative flag-waving Nationalism, and you need more levels of contrarianism than that to really address Nationalism.

But it was done in a very compact way.

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