normal brain: oh another Hellboy movie
glowy brain: bad, they cast a white guy to play an Asian role
space brain: good, they cast an Asian guy to play the Asian role
galaxy brain: bad, the actor is Korean but the character is Japanese
universe buddha brain: Asian-American is a separate race from both
“Of course, aside from the East Asians and South Asians, there are the American Asians, also known as Unionese,”
(Sorry, sorry, this is just my single favorite race hot take of the past month.)
normal brain: oh another Hellboy movie
glowy brain: bad, they cast a white guy to play an Asian role
space brain: good, they cast an Asian guy to play the Asian role
galaxy brain: bad, the actor is Korean but the character is Japanese
universe buddha brain: Asian-American is a separate race from both
that last line
Anonymous asked:
mitigatedchaos answered:
“Very intellectual”
Heh.
Could someone start a knock-off of Singapore’s People’s Action Party and get any seats for it?
Not under the current electoral system in America, though we see elements, bits and pieces can sometimes get through, such as Maine adopting a kind of preference voting for the governor’s seat.
The polarization into two parties is the natural state of the first-past-the-post, winner-take-all electoral system - you want exactly 51% of the vote in order to have the minimum amount of compromise. This creates a lot of dumb politics.
There is, after all, no place for me in the Republican Party, nor in the Democratic Party.
However, while a unified party powerful enough to take power may not emerge, some ideas, elements, and legislative reforms could get through. And if there are subtle changes to the system, then a more unified platform could become viable.
Some of these elements which escape to be adopted by others may be ideological in nature. Some of my posts on Nationalism have caused some local Rationalists to scratch their heads, wondering “wait, why isn’t that the argument actual American nationalists, in the form of the GOP, actually make?” Or otherwise they simply have never been exposed to an argument for Nationalism that is more than performative flag-waving, by the kind of person who believes that nations are both real and fake at the same time, that can see them as constructs, but still considers them desirable. Also, many may not have been exposed to the idea that open borders may be a pathway to an incompetent yet oppressive world government (gradually, over time).
Likewise, in constructing a kind of Social Centrism, most people do not currently have access to arguments against the most liberal positions (on e.g., polygamy) that are rooted in secular considerations and which also take in mind future developments (e.g., Transhumanism).
There is a question - when GOP members exit their current ideological basis, what will they exit to?
By making these arguments, which then are shared, I create a more defensible ideological position of retreat other than just crossing over entirely to the other side.
The ideal body for my politics right now, given conditions, would be a think tank that could conduct research and produce ready-to-sign legislation along pathways that the existing political parties are not currently setup to defend against (insufficient pre-built memetic barriers - battles they don’t even realize they are or will be fighting). This does not require a mass movement, but rather a fairly good-sized chunk of funding and a core of intelligent and motivated contributors.
On a more mass basis, once a more clear ideology is produced, I think it can be simplified in a way that is more easily communicated…
…though that may still have issues generating sufficient excitement.
If you are concerned about the polity in a multi-racial society breaking up into a number of racially-aligned parties, then isn’t the two-party system we have in the United States a good idea?
A good question, but is it better to have one “White Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?
Or one “White + Asian Party” and one “Everyone Else Party”?
The real answer, I think, is to knock it the fuck off and realize that Melting Pot + Civic Nationalism is the superior model for racial harmony vs. SJ and its subtextual ethnonationalism and racial intellectual property rights.
“You liberals and your safe spaces/trigger warnings/elitism/anti-fascist protests are the reason we have the alt-right” isn’t wrong just because it’s cruel and victim-blaming. It’s wrong because…well, follow that to its logical conclusion.
Suppose you’re right. Suppose we live in a world where a group of overeager progressive students demanding trigger warnings can actually cause large groups of Nazis to march with assault rifles and elect a leader who promises to bankrupt, deport, imprison, assault and/or kill millions of people. Suppose we live in a world where one punch thrown by an Antifa protester naturally and rightly leads to mass curtailment of civil rights for everyone.
Suppose we live in a world where those on the side of justice have to be perfect, have to moderate our language and keep our voices down, have to assemble politely and calmly, or else we can and should expect violent repression.
What kind of world is that?
If we live in a world where overeager college kids naturally provoke Nazi aggression, then the Nazis have already come, and the college kids and the Antifas and whoever else you want to blame today are just convenient targets.
“On the side of justice” - Hint, not everyone agrees that your faction is “on the side of justice,” especially when that faction is willing to do things like overlook sex crimes for ideological reasons. (“But right-wingers ignore sex cri-” right, but you’re implicitly claiming that you are better than them. If you aren’t really, why bother with you?)
Look, there can be dustups without it escalating so much. White nationalists were fringe earlier.
But there is support on the Left for demographic replacement, combined with an implicit belief in ethnonationalism for everyone except white people.
Every time some progressive talks about how “we are the guests of the native tribes here in Michigan,” it supports collective ethnic ownership of the land, which is a core component of ethnonationalism.
You cannot have collective ethnic justice and not have white nationalism.
Either you have civic nationalism without white nationalism, or you have individualism without white nationalism, but you cannot have racial consciousness without white people having racial consciousness, too.
And yeah, historically, white nationalism has been bad. So maybe I don’t appreciate people running around specifically making white people aware of their race and how it’s “problematic” all the time making them identify harder with whiteness.
Spencer’s rally wasn’t even that big! They had to truck people in from all across the country! That whole “anti Nazis” rally in Boston or whatever dwarfed the KKK that were said to be planning to arrive by orders of magnitude.
There might be ways to have ethnic consciousness without causing white ethnonationalism, but they are ideologically prohibited to you, and would probably look more like the behaviors of East Asian soft authoritarian low-democracy city-states than anything you’d see in a diversity seminar.
During the Second World War, the Japanese Canadian population of coastal British Columbia was divided and resettled across the Canadian interior.
The Japanese Canadians did not concentrate anywhere. There were no resettled communities, only families and individuals. They did not live close to one another. They did not make new communities, out of a fear that they might once again become public enemies.
A few thousand left for Japan after the war was over. Those who stayed in Canada did not usually return to their homes in the Pacific exclusion area, which had been sold by civilian authorities at a profit.
The resettled families did not keep their language. They did not keep their culture. They kept friends among themselves, but they did not do it in public, and they did not pass it on to their children. Their children went to Anglophone schools. They made Anglophone friends.
And as the older generation died, it forgot. Their children grew up in a community that was not their own. But, for those children, it was different. This was their home now. This was their community.
Almost. They felt apart from it, somehow. Sometimes, by a word or a look, they felt as though they did not belong. They felt as though there was something missing. Sometimes they felt as though they did not know where they had come from. Sometimes they felt as though they did not know who they were.
They felt as though their parents had taken something from them. They had done it out of fear, or out of hope. The children had not understood what they were missing. Their parents understood it much too well.
As adults, they talked to one another, those with the same skin, with the same names, about that feeling of absence. Not often, but sometimes.
But they forgot those feelings, and those moments, most of the time. They lived and worked in a world that told them this was their community, and these were their people, and this was where they belonged.
Until it isn’t.
Until, suddenly, they remember.
Doesn’t this suggest Ethnic Nationalism, though?
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Tumblr once told me that disliking graffiti tagging is racist.
That sounds extremely racist, as graffiti tagging is not a biologically-ingrained behavior.
Also, seriously, fuck graffiti tagging. Yes, it’s vandalism, but also it’s ugly. If you’re going to paint something illegally, at least paint a picture or something and don’t just write the equivalent of “lol i was here brah”.
It’s basically paint-based littering.
Maybe the reason so many Leftists think white nationalists cannot be deconverted is because they cannot deconvert them.
If you believe in collective ethnic ownership of the land, you believe in one of the core components of ethnonationalism. And if you believe that ties into race, you believe in a core component of racial ethnonationalism.
Asking a white nationalist to come down from the tree of white ethnonationalism is not going to work while you, yourself, are up a tree of ethnonationalism. It’s hypocritical, and hypocrisy is not very convincing.
The real alternatives are more in the realm of individualism - placing individuals over ethnic groups (and ethnic group membership) - and civic nationalism - placing the nation and national culture above ethnic groups. But both of those are very unWoke.
I’m getting increasingly suspicious and uncomfortable about the Leftist branch of ethnonationalism, after initially letting it fly under the radar due to the company it kept.
This is in contrast with my position on White Nationalists, which has always been suspicious, uncomfortable, and at least low key hostile: they want to harm and kill people I like, or kick out people I like having around and think improve the community, and then there’s the whole sexism/White women are morally obligated to pop out babies thing which is only debatably better from my perspective than just straight up wanting to kill me.
The thing is, we could go with a throwback, “every ethnic/linguistic group ought to have a state, and every state ought to be homogeneous” with lots of bickering about who’s homeland every inch of the planet is, and that has plenty of issues, but it has at least a veneer of fairness and a hypothetical possiblity of everyone surviving. In practice, it’s not any of those things, but on paper it’s not immediately obvious that it’s a recipe for genocide, or at least it’s possible to pretend that it’s not.
Current Leftist “woke” ethnonationalism though, is implicitly, and sometimes explicitly, genocidal/proto pro rape as a tool of genocide. There is not a veneer of mutual survivability, and this is presented as a plus.
Oh yeah, white nationalism is definitely not trustworthy, and it would seek to kick all sorts of great people out of the country, and has a record of killing people.
And at the same time, I think it’s reacting to that undercurrent within the implicit ethnonationalism among the Woke crowd.
There’s definitely also a contradiction in there - if whites all have to leave America because it is the rightful land of the natives which they stole, then they go back to Europe - but this will massively tilt Europe back to being white, when they instead want it to become ‘diverse’ and ‘brown’. (They use the word ‘brown’. I find it kind of weird tbh.) I definitely pick up on a signal of just… “white people should just not-exist for their crimes”.
And, well, hoo boy, nothing is going to create white nationalists quite like that.
@thathopeyetlives. Also, they seem to think that Han Chinese are not white.
I wonder in how much this will come into contention in about 10-20 years. There’s definitely a gap in appearance vs the various kinds of whites, but Han Chinese in America are a prime target for resource extraction, the People’s Republic of China is actively trying to weaken the cultures in outlying territories, and already East Asians are being disadvantaged by academic affirmative action policies.
Maybe the reason so many Leftists think white nationalists cannot be deconverted is because they cannot deconvert them.
If you believe in collective ethnic ownership of the land, you believe in one of the core components of ethnonationalism. And if you believe that ties into race, you believe in a core component of racial ethnonationalism.
Asking a white nationalist to come down from the tree of white ethnonationalism is not going to work while you, yourself, are up a tree of ethnonationalism. It’s hypocritical, and hypocrisy is not very convincing.
The real alternatives are more in the realm of individualism - placing individuals over ethnic groups (and ethnic group membership) - and civic nationalism - placing the nation and national culture above ethnic groups. But both of those are very unWoke.
