What neither side of US politics wants to admit: the promotion of identity politics combined with the declining white super majority has led to turbo charged white identity politics. Since Dems catered for non-white identity politics, Trump and the GOP took hold of white identity politics.
Most countries that do not have a 70%+ super majority ethnic group have ethnicized
electoral politics.
Yes, my fear is that Lee Kuan Yew is right.
CHICAGO (CBS) — A Chicago pastor has asked the Emanuel administration to remove the names of two presidents who owned slaves from parks on the South Side, saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.
A bronze statue of George Washington on horseback stands at the corner of 51st and King Drive, at the northwest entrance to Washington Park.
Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center, said he wants the statue gone, and he wants George Washington’s name removed from the park.
“When I see that, I see a person who fought for the
liberties, and I see people that fought for the justice and freedom of
white America, because at that moment, we were still chattel slavery,
and was three-fifths of humans,” he said. “Some people out here ask me,
say ‘Well, you know, he taught his slaves to read.’ That’s almost sad;
the equivalent of someone who kidnaps you, that you gave them something
to eat.”
Dukes said, even though Washington was the nation’s first president and led the American army in the Revolutionary War, he’s no hero to the black community.
“There’s no way plausible that we would even think that they would erect a Malcolm X statue in Mount Greenwood, Lincoln Park, or any of that. Not that say Malcolm X was a bad guy; they just would not go for it,” he said. “Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue, because of the atrocities that he plagued upon Native Americans. And for them to say to us ‘just accept it’ is actually insulting.”
The pastor also said President Andrew Jackson’s name should be removed from nearby Jackson Park, because he also was a slave owner. He said he’s not necessarily asking the city rename the parks altogether. He suggested Washington Park could be named after former Mayor Harold Washington, and Jackson Park could be named after civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson or singer Michael Jackson.
Dukes said he’s not trying to erase history. He said black people should be able to decide who is and is not honored in their communities.
“I think we should be able to identify and decide who we declare heroes in or communities, because we have to tell the stories to our children of who these persons are,” he said.
He said parks, statues, or other monuments honoring Presidents Washington and Jackson might be appropriate elsewhere, but not in black neighborhoods.
“In an African-American community, it’s a slap in the face and it’s a disgrace for them to honor someone who was a slave owner.
Dukes said he has sent letters to Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago Park District asking them to change the names of Washington and Jackson parks. He shared the letter on Facebook.
“I am feeling ambivalent that I would have to walk my child, attend a parade or enjoy a game of softball in a park that commemorates the memory of a slave owner,” he wrote. “Therefore, I call on the immediate removal of President George Washington and President Andrew Jackson names from the parks located on the southeast side of Chicago. They should not have the distinct honor of being held as heroes when they actively participated in the slave trade.”
Representatives for the mayor did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
A Chicago Park District spokeswoman pointed to the city’s formal process for renaming parks, which allows anyone to submit a request to the superintendent. The Park District board may vote on any such request after a 45-day public comment period.
For the record, I’m fine with cutting off a chunk of land for the Black Nationalists, too. I expect it to go about as well as the White Nationalist land, but again, so long as no one goes there involuntarily, it isn’t my problem.
I notice this one isn’t tagged “satire”, which seems to mean you actually think segregation is a valid solution. Never death though, that’s barbaric.
Keeping people that hate each others’ guts physically apart from each other is in fact superior to killing them, since they might eventually chill out but killing is permanent. Additionally, if it turns out someone has been separated that should not have been, they can be moved again later, whereas no one can be unexecuted. It isn’t that I think killing is never justified, but you lot huffing a hero fantasy about “killing Nazis” are too eager to kill and too detached to actually notice when you’re attacking dudes who are not Nazis.
It’s already well-known that at least one dude who was never at and was in no way attached to the march or white nationalists got doxxed as a “Nazi”.
I encourage being ABSOLUTELY certain before killing. I admire the “choose the reversible option first” philosophy, but segregation is not right. I’d think you’d have learned that from history.
What exactly do you think prisons are, if not segregating people who have a proven track record of violent or damaging behavior from the rest of the population?
Are you a prison abolitionist by means of death penalty?
And why can’t people live in different places with different rules? I actually support the creation of more city-states as a means of political preference satisfaction in general.
Also, let’s be honest here, Antifa sucks at figuring out who is and is not a Nazi and will indeed claim they are “absolutely certain” in the middle of killing people who are not and have never been Nazis.
At some point, you have to ask, is what you want to prevent people dying, or is what you want to punish those with what you deem to be evil beliefs? Because “put all the Nazis on their own little island” accomplishes the former, but not the latter.
Prisons are bad, but replacing them wholesale with the death penalty is only worse, way too many people arrested unjustly or for stupid things that shouldn’t be illegal.
Yes, antifa is generally bad at identifying actual opponents. You’ll notice I don’t tend to blanket state I support them, for that reason mainly.
I don’t know where you intend to set aside for all the different racists though. The places they want are already taken.
I don’t need to move all the racists, just the most racist of the racists. The most racist of the racists are among the most dangerous.
There are still a number of very lightly-developed areas in the world. They had to truck people in from all over the country just to make that rally. There isn’t going to be something where we need enough land for 100 million people. I don’t think Whitopia would get even one million people.
Singapore is about 720km2 in size. America is something like 9 million km2 in size. So Whitopia and Blaktopia each get about one one thousandth of a percent of the land, each with a 10km corridor for sea access. Doesn’t need to be great sea access either, just enough for a seaport.
(Also a wall would be built around each so that access could be controlled to prevent weird cross-border crime stuff.)
if you post someone’s address, job, full name, personal details, anything that’s doxing, there are only two things that you want people to do to them:
1) really mess with them to an insane extent, like ordering gay porn, perfume samples, religious books and hundreds of pizzas sent to their house and try to ruin their personal lives/get them fire
2) kill them
so don’t fucking do it
don’t dox people
i want Nazi’s to get fired or worse
i get this but there has already been one instances from last week were people got the wrong person and it could fuck up his whole life for something they didn’t do
two instances, actually.
they got one of the wrong guys twice.
do you get that?
two people that are categorically NOT nazis got accused of being nazis by some half cocked dipshit on social media.
also fucking with nazis or trying to get them fired is categorically A Bad Idea.
I keep seeing this sentiment in the notes but don’t fucking do it
don’t feed into their victim narrative.
that’ll just push them further into extremism.
like, do you really think someone racist is gonna change their fuckin mind if they get fired because 5000 “undesirables” according to nazi doctrine get them fired?
do you think they’re suddenly magically gonna get a good attitude towards minorities that nazis have historically persecuted?
getting someone fired from a fucking hotdog job where they’re clearly miserable, probably not making much money in the first place ain’t gonna help.
not bein able to pay their bills will not teach them some sort of lesson, or the kind of lesson that would lead to them not being a fuckhead.
it’ll teach them
“these subhumans want you starving, want you to be unable to feed your families and want you dead”
WELL DONE
YOU JUST RADICALIZED A DUMBFUCK EVEN FURTHER
HE’S GOING TO GO DEEPER INTO EXTREMISM THANKS TO YOU, IDIOT
DON’T DOX PEOPLE
This is a major problem we as a society have with deradicalization. Like, you can’t exile someone from society and expect them to reform, it just further radicalizes them. People are social animals and need a network of healthy relationships so as to deradicalize. If you cut people off from the opportunity to build those relationships, you’re ensuring that the problem will never ever get fixed
An excellent treatise on why prison doesn’t work. The nazis already are nazis with a network of relationships, likely with other nazis if they were in a gathering with other nazis. Are you suggesting the targets of nazis shoukld sit down and talk with people who literally want them dead. or else to literally do nothing?
Well I mean it worked for me, so yeah, pretty much.
congratulations on not being a nazi anymore, not everyone is so quick to give it up.
Yeah, and your methods are only making the problem worse, so I’d appreciate it if you got out of the way.
You don’t know my methods, or do you think dead nazis are more of a problem than alive ones?
You are absolutely right, friend. The government must act to stop this epidemic of ideologically extreme vehicular homicide through every means possible. Driving into crowds is never forgivable.
Therefore every Jihadi and Jihadi sympathizer must be executed. No safe spaces for Jihadis. Their sick and twisted ideology offers no deconversion. The only good Jihadi is a dead Jihadi.
Liberals might protest that Jihadis don’t cause much violence, statistically, but the only voice Jihadis will listen to is violence.
For the record, I’m fine with cutting off a chunk of land for the Black Nationalists, too. I expect it to go about as well as the White Nationalist land, but again, so long as no one goes there involuntarily, it isn’t my problem.
concept: a white ethnostate, but multiracial.
other concept: a white ethnostate, but #woke.
someone should make these a thing.
Arguably, don’t these both already exist, on the sub-national level?
Anonymous asked:
You don’t need to be big enough to launch an actual civil war in order to cause significant economic damage and psychic panic, particularly in a developed nation where people aren’t used to infrastructure disruptions.
Maybe you lot should quit trying to reawaken white racial consciousness and just put all those statues into museums and rename the parks after other suitable historical figures (pre civil war ones might be a good choice), not that the statues are really the chief cause, they’re just a point of friction for it to surface.
Either give up on collective intergenerational ethnic justice, or give up on shifting the demographics. You can’t have both and not get a rise in ethnonationalism, seeing as it involves yelling “you are [ethnicity]! You are not allowed to identify as anything other than [ethnicity]!”
Supposedly you guys were all-powerful before, but you got an orange internet meme elected President as backlash which you lot said wouldn’t happen, and at this rate he may well be re-elected.
Anonymous asked:
mutant-aesthetic answered:
that can’t be permitted according to them because their moral philosophy requires unilateral world domination with no exit for dissenters
Honestly, it’s too bad “create some tiny white ethnostate and have all the white nationalists go there” isn’t an option. There are enough chunks of land available to make it happen.
Over the short term it would be opposed for all the usual reasons, but of course over the long term there would be a demand to dismantle it as a moral imperative, on the grounds that white nationalists do not deserve to exist (even though the same people would continue to allow other forms of ethnic/racial nationalism).
And of course Whitopia would probably suck, because WNs are not usually the best stock of white people. But who cares? It’s an opt-in community, no one has to live there.
I don’t expect much if any external terrorism to occur following its formation, and if small, it couldn’t successfully invade anywhere anyway.
Also it might fall over arguments about who really counts as white, but eh, once they all move there it’s not my problem.
garmbreak1 asked:
Woman tears down Confederate flag in South Carolina (2015)
(For my part, I thought no serious charges or punishments were warranted.)
Anonymous asked:
mutant-aesthetic answered:
hardly, nazism is actually rooted in a great degree of nihlism, it’s more or less required
