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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
collapsedsquid
argumate

although I do feel that there is some rhetorical space for a hypothetical Ancap nation that isn’t currently occupied, namely turning a jaundiced eye to all forms of organisation: the state, corporations, familial clans, tribes, and telling them all to go to hell lest they institute oppression.

while this isn’t a super realistic scenario, in the context of ancap debates I feel it’s actually not that outlandish!

a society that wants to avoid being dominated by organisations that restrict freedom needs to institute hardcore anti-organisation memes, even to the point of inhibiting freedom of association if necessary;  a truly individualistic society deserves nothing less.

discoursedrome

Technically speaking I guess you can just view any given political system as an ancap framework in which all property is already owned by Westphalian states and all other laws are just conventions they’ve established since you have a right to decide how to treat people on your own property.

argumate

Yes, the ground state that we are likely to collapse back into.

But the states-as-people-in-ancapistan concept works well, it even has polycentric law, multiple defense organisations (NATO, Warsaw Pact, alliances) and bilateral and multilateral agreements of all kinds without any top-level state that holds a monopoly on violence (as much as the US would like to play this role).

collapsedsquid

And you can see the downside, it’s the one that Hobbes talked about and is formalized in the realist school of IR.  Because it’s an anarchistic, in order to survive you have to be constantly worried about the power of other players and in many cases you damage them to maintain your survival.

mitigatedchaos

Don’t worry m8, we can just replace it with one World Government to resolve these competitions and then-

No, stop killing each other over ideology!  We can’t turn the entire world Communist!  

Or Islamic!

No, these people have a right to free-

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mitigatedchaos

@argumate

one million notes but it’s just people going “I know right!!!” instead of dating this person

That makes me wonder who I’d get if I updated my dating profile with my blog description.

Crypto-Centrist Transhumanist Nationalist. Type-19 Paramilitary Cyborg. Wanted time criminal. Class A-3 citizen of the North American Union. Opposed to the Chinese Hyper Mind-Union, the Ultra-Caliphate, Google Defense Network, and the People’s Republic of Cascadia. National Separatist, enemy of the Earth Sphere Federation government and its unificationist allies.

Would it be the mad?  Those with strange humor?  Aspiring science fiction writers?

Oh who am I kidding, I don’t have the time/energy for a romantic partner right now.

argumate

real question is how you would react to an equivalent profile

mitigatedchaos

Boring answer: Depends on the context in the rest of the profile.

Fun answer: Send an opening message in-character.  You humans like that kind of thing, right?

Sidereal answer: I don’t date time paradox duplicates.  I mean, if you think ordinary genetic risks are bad…

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Old: A white man goes to Asia and learns their mystical art of kung fu.  He becomes better than all the students that have lived there their whole lives, then returns to America to seek vengeance for his dead buddy cop.

New: A white man goes to Asia and learns their mystical art of sushi.  He becomes better than all the students that have lived there their whole lives, then returns to America to open an Asian Fusion restaurant to seek vengeance against GMO food.

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@argumate

one million notes but it’s just people going “I know right!!!” instead of dating this person

That makes me wonder who I’d get if I updated my dating profile with my blog description.

Crypto-Centrist Transhumanist Nationalist. Type-19 Paramilitary Cyborg. Wanted time criminal. Class A-3 citizen of the North American Union. Opposed to the Chinese Hyper Mind-Union, the Ultra-Caliphate, Google Defense Network, and the People’s Republic of Cascadia. National Separatist, enemy of the Earth Sphere Federation government and its unificationist allies.

Would it be the mad?  Those with strange humor?  Aspiring science fiction writers?

Oh who am I kidding, I don’t have the time/energy for a romantic partner right now.

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itsbenedict

This is not a place of honor. We buried a ton of useless poison sludge here. It shoots invisible death rays that kill you slowly, so don’t dig it up or you’ll die.

argumate

why don’t we just surround it with something even more toxic that kills people quickly; a few dead explorers could save a village from radiation poisoning

rangi42

Booby traps just signal that there’s something valuable being protected.

argumate

reverse psychology: surround it with huge advertising signs that visibly reek of desperation

bpd-anon

I mean, we aren’t opening up Qin Shi Huang’s underground Mercury (and possibly crossbow) funhouse so maybe explorers in the future would indeed be deterred

argumate

only because he made sure that legends of his House Of Fun And Pain were passed down the generations for us to receive!

which is really the lesson here; if you don’t want people to be harmed by your nuclear waste dumps after the collapse of civilization, maybe you could try avoiding the collapse of civilization.

mitigatedchaos

I brought this up with the Central Committee and said we should reprocess the spent fuel for a 300-400 year storage time instead.

They rejected my proposal on the grounds that the collapse of civilization would inherently involve the destruction of the United States of America as a political entity, and therefore anyone harmed by digging up a ten thousand-year-old radioactive waste dump under such conditions would, almost by definition, not be an American citizen.

Sometimes I think the decision to put that Kissinger-Trump bot in charge of the DoE was a mistake.

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slartibartfastibast

Ross, buddy, Singapore is orders of magnitude more homogenous than the US. Of course healthcare will be cheaper there. Industrializing customizability is hard.

mitigatedchaos

Forget the fact that Singapore is something like 75% ethnic Chinese. The government there is just flat out more competent, responsive, and self-disciplined. You and I both know, Slart, that the Central Provident Fund (and its component healthcare programs) cannot exist in the United States of America because even if it weren’t shot down as evil anti-freedom paternalism, it would be raided for either tax cuts (Republicans) or social programs (Democrats) within ten years of its creation.

slartibartfastibast

That’s fair.

Hopefully we can automate medical specialist jobs soon.

mitigatedchaos

Look Slart, all I’m saying is that I should be made technocratic dictator of the North American Union. Then I can enact thousands of weird ideological trades and replace congress with a legislature made up of delegated voting think tanks that bet competitively on the outcomes of their laws to determine their funding.

It’ll be great.

ranma-official

Make America Confused Again

mitigatedchaos

Ranma m8 all I’m saying is that the RAND Corporation knew that the Iraq War wouldn’t go at all as well as planned, so an entire legislature composed of them and a bunch of other think tanks might reasonably outperform politicians.

Now I know what you’re thinking - Americans are too stupid to use a delegated voting system where the top 100 delegates by delegated vote count form the legislature, much less navigate a ballot of over 500 registered delegate candidate organizations - but I have an answer to this. The first page of the ballot will just have the top five by previous vote count in the last election times percentile standing in the legislative prediction market. They don’t need to know what that means, just click one of the five big buttons.

…Actually nevermind this will somehow get accused of racism within about five days of going into effect.

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