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mitigatedchaos

For the record, I’m fine with cutting off a chunk of land for the Black Nationalists, too. I expect it to go about as well as the White Nationalist land, but again, so long as no one goes there involuntarily, it isn’t my problem.

avienbgwp

I notice this one isn’t tagged “satire”, which seems to mean you actually think segregation is a valid solution. Never death though, that’s barbaric.

mitigatedchaos

Keeping people that hate each others’ guts physically apart from each other is in fact superior to killing them, since they might eventually chill out but killing is permanent. Additionally, if it turns out someone has been separated that should not have been, they can be moved again later, whereas no one can be unexecuted. It isn’t that I think killing is never justified, but you lot huffing a hero fantasy about “killing Nazis” are too eager to kill and too detached to actually notice when you’re attacking dudes who are not Nazis.

It’s already well-known that at least one dude who was never at and was in no way attached to the march or white nationalists got doxxed as a “Nazi”.

avienbgwp

I encourage being ABSOLUTELY certain before killing. I admire the “choose the reversible option first” philosophy, but segregation is not right. I’d think you’d have learned that from history.

mitigatedchaos

What exactly do you think prisons are, if not segregating people who have a proven track record of violent or damaging behavior from the rest of the population?

Are you a prison abolitionist by means of death penalty?

And why can’t people live in different places with different rules? I actually support the creation of more city-states as a means of political preference satisfaction in general.

Also, let’s be honest here, Antifa sucks at figuring out who is and is not a Nazi and will indeed claim they are “absolutely certain” in the middle of killing people who are not and have never been Nazis.

At some point, you have to ask, is what you want to prevent people dying, or is what you want to punish those with what you deem to be evil beliefs? Because “put all the Nazis on their own little island” could accomplish the former, but not the latter.

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discoursedrome asked:

It seems like the practical problem with having lots of little theme-park ethnostates is that polities can't really help warring on or playing dominance games with their neighbours. If they're part of a big liberal union they don't function very well as theme-park ethnostates, but if they're not, they'll probably be forced into war with their neighbours just because of realpolitik, tribalism, and resource scarcity issues.

It’s a good question.

In terms of breaking the whole US up into little theme park ethnostates it’s definitely worthy of greater consideration.

However, in the context of what likely brought this to your mind just now, the tiny white nationalist theme park ethnostate (and corresponding black nationalist theme park ethnostate) would be small enough that they’d be effectively protected from invasion by being right next to the United States, and would benefit from access to American markets and infrastructure, so it doesn’t need much realpolitik maneuvering.

For my purposes, the tiny WN ethnostate exists for three purposes:

Remove WNs from political influence in the country (and the resulting media firestorms/streetfights/crimes/etc)
Gather experimental information
Increase viability of Exit as an option in polities where whites have become at-risk minorities (such as Zimbabwe redistributing farmland)

I don’t actually want to live in the Principality of Whitopia. (In fact, I haven’t disclosed on this blog whether I would even be eligible.)

The America I grew up in, and the America I believe in, is multiracial.

However, I also support the creation of more city-states as political experiments in general, even for philosophies that I think will fail.

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avienbgwp

mitigatedchaos

avienbgwp

I notice this one isn’t tagged “satire”, which seems to mean you actually think segregation is a valid solution. Never death though, that’s barbaric.

mitigatedchaos

It’s already well-known that at least one dude who was never at and was in no way attached to the march or white nationalists got doxxed as a “Nazi”.

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avienbgwp

Reminder

trilllizard420

if you post someone’s address, job, full name, personal details, anything that’s doxing, there are only two things that you want people to do to them:

1) really mess with them to an insane extent, like ordering gay porn, perfume samples, religious books and hundreds of pizzas sent to their house and try to ruin their personal lives/get them fire

2) kill them

so don’t fucking do it

don’t dox people

libby-doe-mods-denofiniquity

i want Nazi’s to get fired or worse

morseapple

i get this but there has already been one instances from last week were people got the wrong person and it could fuck up his whole life for something they didn’t do

trilllizard420

two instances, actually.

they got one of the wrong guys twice.

do you get that?

two people that are categorically NOT nazis got accused of being nazis by some half cocked dipshit on social media.

also fucking with nazis or trying to get them fired is categorically A Bad Idea.

I keep seeing this sentiment in the notes but don’t fucking do it

don’t feed into their victim narrative.

that’ll just push them further into extremism.

like, do you really think someone racist is gonna change their fuckin mind if they get fired because 5000 “undesirables” according to nazi doctrine get them fired?

do you think they’re suddenly magically gonna get a good attitude towards minorities that nazis have historically persecuted?

getting someone fired from a fucking hotdog job where they’re clearly miserable, probably not making much money in the first place ain’t gonna help.

not bein able to pay their bills will not teach them some sort of lesson, or the kind of lesson that would lead to them not being a fuckhead.

it’ll teach them

“these subhumans want you starving, want you to be unable to feed your families and want you dead”

WELL DONE

YOU JUST RADICALIZED A DUMBFUCK EVEN FURTHER

HE’S GOING TO GO DEEPER INTO EXTREMISM THANKS TO YOU, IDIOT

DON’T DOX PEOPLE

mutant-aesthetic

This is a major problem we as a society have with deradicalization. Like, you can’t exile someone from society and expect them to reform, it just further radicalizes them. People are social animals and need a network of healthy relationships so as to deradicalize. If you cut people off from the opportunity to build those relationships, you’re ensuring that the problem will never ever get fixed

avienbgwp

An excellent treatise on why prison doesn’t work. The nazis already are nazis with a network of relationships, likely with other nazis if they were in a gathering with other nazis. Are you suggesting the targets of nazis shoukld sit down and talk with people who literally want them dead. or else to literally do nothing?

mutant-aesthetic

Well I mean it worked for me, so yeah, pretty much.

avienbgwp

congratulations on not being a nazi anymore, not everyone is so quick to give it up.

mutant-aesthetic

Yeah, and your methods are only making the problem worse, so I’d appreciate it if you got out of the way.

avienbgwp

You don’t know my methods, or do you think dead nazis are more of a problem than alive ones?

mitigatedchaos

You are absolutely right, friend. The government must act to stop this epidemic of ideologically extreme vehicular homicide through every means possible. Driving into crowds is never forgivable.

Therefore every Jihadi and Jihadi sympathizer must be executed. No safe spaces for Jihadis. Their sick and twisted ideology offers no deconversion. The only good Jihadi is a dead Jihadi.

Liberals might protest that Jihadis don’t cause much violence, statistically, but the only voice Jihadis will listen to is violence.

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racepol torches in the night

We may see the emergence of phalanx formations at protests now.

Not good. The formation of armed melee groups is undermining the legitimacy of the state.

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the-grey-tribe

Trump is handling this poorly, even by his own standards. He could have disavowed of them loudly, and ended his speech with something like “And that’s why we are going to build a nice, big, non-violent wall“

He could even have signed an executive order to establish a General Lee museum where they collect all the statues. That would still have been better than this.

Why did he not just do a Nixon-style dog whistle or something? I bet somebody wrote him a speech to that extent and he winged it!

mitigatedchaos

He isn’t wrong about the potential for value drift - many Leftists already dislike or hate the U.S. founding fathers.

However, I endorse creating a Museum of the Confederacy and putting them all there. In fact, I really like that idea. There have got to be like three dozen or more of the things, so they could be put outside/etc. You might get rid of some of the most similar-looking ones.

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